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Ami

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We ARE worth it
« on: July 25, 2009, 08:23:37 AM »
I see that my worth is independent from my NM and NF's views of me. We are independent of them in our value. We are worth loving. We are worth having good things.
 We are as worthwhile as ANY person out there.
 
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: We ARE worth it
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 08:10:52 AM »
I think a  factor in becoming emotionally healthy is  being "selfish".(It is NOT  selfish but  NM's make you think when you take care of your needs,you are selfish and bad)My NM had  big penalties on my having a sense of self.I knew I better be what she wanted me to be.
 Last Friday, I stood up for myself. .A girl had been catty behind my back and then started being  friendly to my face.
 I  told her that I did not want her friendship.
 I changed  from that  action. I realized that I DO want to be strong and can be.
 My parents made sure that I would not get strong  inner qualities  b/c my FOO rules were "Always take care of your M's feelings." I had to lie,all the time, that my M was wonderful when she was a monster.
 My own identity would have been a kind of truth b/c if I were true to myself and respected myself, I could not lie to a monster. So, I threw myself out, as many of us on the Board did.

         Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

Gabben

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Re: We ARE worth it
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 10:28:20 PM »
Hi Ami,

I like this post. Lately I have been reflecting on my roommate, who clearly suffers from Narcissism at a mild level, at least I want to hope that it is mild; she tends to manipulate which can drive me bonkers, if I am not in check. I recall when I was in my early twenties I had a breakthrough with my own N tendencies of manipulation and what I saw was that at the root of my manipulation was deep feelings of unworthiness, the pain of that hole of feeling like a "nothing" was not easy to face nor was having to work to get to know myself and what my true worth was. That search for true worth took me to unhealthy relationships, jobs, money etc., anything that I could grab a hold of to try to rewrite the empty feelings of lies that I had taken on as a belief; the lies I was  unworthy of love if I did not achieve, own or look good on the outside according to worldly values.

It has been a while since I have engaged here; the last time that I was here I heard from the "board" a general distaste for religious or anything that was Christian based in responses. In order to not break any rules here on the board I want to be respectful those "voices" that expressed the dislike for religious commentary, but I do want to remind you, Ami, of how much you and I would converse about our faith and what a difference turning to God makes in our healing journey.

There is still a tendency for me to seek my worth in the external but the more that I have found, tasted and experienced the external, opinions of others, money, relationships etc., I am continually brought back to God again as my true identity and worth maker and filler. The external just keeps changing, it seems to never stay the same except my responses to the external which seem to be the challenge to change.

Like you, my relationship with God is the one thing that stays constant, even when I feel like I am spinning back into the deepest layers of woundedness from childhood and wanting to act on that pain of empty hunger to fill.

Lately, also, I have been thinking about the way that I conformed to the expectations of my mom in order to not be abandoned in her love, albeit a toxic love but like Alice Miller says..."the air we breath" we are so used to that toxic waste land of love smothered in our NM's hatred and envy that is can be hard for us to reach beyond and know what true love is and tastes like. In my childhood and even now, I gave up so much of myself in order to be loved, in anyway that I could find, but that search for love was a refusal on my part, a turning away from the one True Love, God, that I can now, thankfully, always turn to and back to again, especially when I see myself acting out in the fears rather that the faith.

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Re: We ARE worth it
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 07:25:30 AM »
Dear Lise
 You have  grown and matured  more in to your true self.That is my goal, as you asked on the other thread. It is to have my own holes(needs) plugged up enough (by me)that they are not always screaming at me,"Feed me." My M acted like I killed s/one when I simply wanted to be a whole, well rounded person with all the traits that make one human. The introjects ( my M's voice)tell me that I am a horrible  person when I want to be real and that includes a primal nature with selfish feelings and thoughts.
 I don't want to be a  perfect (nice, giving, selfless, sweet,unassuming)person I felt I HAD to be so shame would not envelop me.
 I go out with a group twice a week and my goal is to express my true self not  try to get them to like me. I stood up to one of them last week. Sometimes, they try to push me to drink more  but I WILL not be pushed by peer pressure . If I have to I will get in someone's face about it, in front of everyone.
 I want to be able to walk alone, according to my own gut.
 I think of the people who stood up in the Milgrim experiment. They were very few but they knew who they were and would not let authority bully them. That is my basic goal and authority could be anyone.
        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: We ARE worth it
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 12:45:47 PM »
"My M acted like I killed s/one when I simply wanted to be a whole, well rounded person with all the traits that make one human."

Nmothers will not allow you to be happy in fullfiling your goals and dreams of life even if those goals and dreams are just to be whole. What is so gosh darn frustrating about it is that they, NM's, want you to stay down, at the same time (because of their projection), they beat you up for not being enough or for any failure on your part to be whole.

"The introjects ( my M's voice)tell me that I am a horrible  person when I want to be real and that includes a primal nature with selfish feelings and thoughts."

Exactly. I have a feeling that others with N issues envy someone when they are capable and strong enough to even desire to be real and are taking the risk of being real in this world that can at times be so phony. Deep down inside N's want to be real and good, that is why they can hate us so much because we risk healing which means we risk being real and the potential rejection that we might experience by being real.

Can I write about me?

The N in my past that triggered my NM wounds, at least the more deeply seeded subtle wounds, hated me because I was able to risk being real, real with my anger, real about my needs and real about my unfilled holes where I did not get the love that I needed when I was a child. I used to tell her, the N therapist, that I was struggling to let go of my need for approval and that I did not want to manipulate even on the slightest level because any manipulation in our soul causes anxiety (which I was suffering from greatly) manipulation stirs our conscience as if our souls know on a deep level that when we start to manipulate, even in the slight unconscious way, that we are headed for trouble, pain. I create my own anxiety. It took me a long time to learn that and see.

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Re: We ARE worth it
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 01:28:11 PM »
Dear Lise
 My goal is to walk through life as free as I can be from needing outside validation for who I am.Sometimes, I wonder just how far I CAN come when I had so much NM damage.
 I am  trying to be more real  rather than seek approval. In the end , God is everything and that helps to mitigate people's issues.   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung