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Gaining Strength

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Mother of wildness seeking calm out of madness
« on: August 04, 2009, 12:08:00 PM »
I have been thinking of blogging my way out of madness.  Honestly, I'm not looking for feedback but I am longing for a place to write.  I come here occassionally but my mind is ranging and finding it difficult to dive into the current topics.  Some that I care about most are deep and for some reason I am unable at this time to offer the kind of response that such expressions deserve.  So I, self-servingly, am going to blog my way whole. 

Today I am facing "resistance".  I have an opportunity once again to really make some headway and find myself, once again, dragging my feet.  Scanning, grazing the internet is an obsession, a diversion that taps into the numbing.  But in doing so I bumped into the word "resistance".  What we resist, persists.

Oh My - it certainly does.  It is time to no longer resist my mess - figurative and literal.  Today I am joining in to my mess, embracing it and going with it, becoming one (whatever that might mean.)  First I have duties to my two pets.  Both need flea help but the stuff is so costly - oh well.  Today is pet day and then I move onto the child's room.  Just pick up one foot in front of the other. 

I am shifting focus from the cause to the outcome.  Always underpressure I am able to produce.  Time to find a way to make that happen on a more consistent way.

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Re: Mother of wildness seeking calm out of madness
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2009, 01:08:31 PM »
((((((GS))))))))                    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2009, 01:18:25 PM »
"What we resist, persists."

This is key...I needed to read that. It amazes me just how much resistance I have and yet the moment that I turn fully into it, facing it,  whatever madness is running through me, it evaporates, the resistance that is.

I've learned a trick that I am not very good at, and still have to push myself to; it is when I am feeling toxic I take my thoughts and turn them south...down to my heart...it can be a big ouch, I think to myself no wonder I am in so much resistance and madness there is this pain in me that is beckoning for my attention.

((GS)) - good to hear from you.

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2009, 01:42:07 PM »
GS - I encourage that blog. I'm always amazed at how those of us who were rendered so voiceless in expression of self as children can as adults be so articulate in our expression of self and life in general.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 05:54:02 PM »
Gabben I want to hear more about what you mean by turning your thoughts south...down to your heart. 

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 07:37:09 PM »
Hi GS,

I've spent a lot of my life living in my head, can you relate? My head is a safe place for me. So what I mean by turning my thoughts south is going down into my heart and listening and feeling for the pain, sometimes the pain is the voice of a very hurting child, there is always a story in my heart beckoning for me to listen to. Example: yesterday I went "south" to hear the voice and story of the teen in me that was so full of grief, sorrow for her lost family as a teen, my parents breakup and her needs for stability that were just not there. Before this pain came up I was trapped in my "cave" hiding in my bathroom in the dark with a cigarette because I was feelings so afraid and toxic.

After I found the pain I stayed with it and let the tears roll - deep sobs of sorrow and anguish as well as just raw hurt.

Today, I awoke in sunshine, the weather here was sunny which is a novelty in the summer. My first awakening thought was to go outside and to enjoy the sun, no matter what. There was much more peace and trust with myself, it was if the teen in me and child in me has grown to trust herself enough because I allow myself my pain.

So far today I have felt much better and much more productive compared to yesterday.

"going south" is what I call finding the tears and pain and staying with it more that doing anything else, otherwise, I can't do anything else.


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Re: Mother of wildness seeking calm out of madness
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 06:43:59 AM »
Hi GS...

Let it all hang out!!! Get it off your chest. Vent. Rage. Whine... whimper.
Gloat over any progress or any small blessings or gratitude... record the things that go so smoothly, you almost didn't notice.

And if you want any suggestions or feedback, just ask.

I'm looking forward to the first installment!
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 12:05:53 AM »
I'm reading Julia Child's My Life in France and enjoying each sumptuous page.  Traveling back in time to post-war France is as pleasurable as joining her in her intimate memoir.  I am moving into a period of gardening and cooking and perhaps raising chickens and sheep.  All of my adult life I have longed to live on a farm - that desire has never waned.  None of my early adult desires have waned and I am beginning to have hope that they will be given birth and come to life.

It is so encouraging to read how Julia began cooking late in her 30s and then diligently spent 10 years working on her cook book with her french friends well into her 40s.  It is such a lovely reminder that age is not an issue.  I have too long participated in America's unkind agism.  Well no more of that!

With my precious child off on a "men's" trip for the week I have been all alone again.  Last night I gathered up my things and headed off to Barnes and Noble to read.  I bumped into a man that my son and I used to see there often.  He invited  me to join him for a cup of coffee and we had a great chat.  I sensed that with a little flirtation I could have won another get together.  It was a great feeling. It makes me think of a line from Julia's book when her husband Paul was absent for a term because of work and she bemoaned her "widowhood" until she remembered that hers was temporary unlike her friend Avis'.  I was so touched by her thoughtfulness.  Such a small acknowledgement is the lift and gift of friendship - true friendship - empathic friendship.  Can friendship actually exist without empathy?  I think not.  Relationship exists only to the extent that empathy is a pillar.  Julia had that quality.  It makes reading her story such a pleasure.  I only hate reaching the end because  I do not want to close the book on the empathetic soul of my new friend Julia.

I am looking forward to seeing Julie and Julia - anyone else?
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 12:14:08 PM »
"Can friendship actually exist without empathy?  I think not.  Relationship exists only to the extent that empathy is a pillar."

Hmmm? This has got me thinking...

The meaningful and deep friendships, the friendships that I cherish are the ones where I feel that empathy is a two way streak. But there are more people in my life that are incapable of deep empathy than there are people who can be deeply empathetic.

Julia is a hero of mine too. I love her encouraging spirit to cooks, "don't be afraid to try anything."

Food Network is one of my favorite channels. They have been running the trailer for the movie Julie and Julia.

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 04:42:12 PM »
I went to see Julie and Julia yesterday - the very first showing.  I have never done that before, always eschewing the BIG fad.  But oddly enough right there in the movie, Julie says she is blogging on Salon.  Well, I've been thinking about blogging, wondering how, wondering how to find blogs to read and there it was - laid out right in the middle of the movie. 

So guess what - as of yesterday afternoon - I'm blogging and loving it.  I actually got a RATE and a couple of comments.  I'm feeling good.  Lovin it.

I like who I am - with one HUGE exception.  I am still struggling with that ability to execute my will - to follow through on these set agendas.  Oh my heavens - I have made so much progress in so many very important ways in the three years that I have been here - yes I have - in every single way except this one.

Only this summer have I finally understood that this is it's own animal - it is THE animal.  But what I have learned if anything here is that setting my mind on one thing at a time has brought forth great results.  So now I will set my sights on this major issue - overcoming the paralysis.

O, I know - the other day I said I wouldn't do the analytical thing but I may have to eat my words on this one.

The best news for me is that I truly believe I am post-psychological at last.  In other words, what is holding me back no longer feels as if it is a psychological issue but more of a neurological - a pre-frontal cortex issue.  I can overcome this.  I know I can.

My dreams have not varied since I was a young adult.  it is time to begin getting my physical life in order so I can see these dreams come true.  I need hand holding and maybe a little accountability here.  Can you help me be accountable - it sets off a little something in my brain that allows it all to work.  DEADLINE works for me - it is actually not psychological but neurological.  If I can find a way to artificially stimulate this the my life will start popping.

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Re: Mother of wildness seeking calm out of madness
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 02:10:39 AM »
Just bumping so I don't lose myself. Losing myself could be the worst thing yet.

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 07:11:44 AM »
((((((GS))))))))    You are not lost, GS!                    Ami
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Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 09:49:30 AM »
Huh. Synchronicity is an odd thing.

I am currently working on "Intention". I define this as carrying out the steps to reach a defined goal - minute or huge, inner/outer... doesn't matter. And yes, I'm being hyperanalytical about it!  :D

For me, identifying a goal isn't enough. Even if it's something everyone can agree on is a good, worthy endeavor - like quitting smoking. OK... I think, so maybe I'm just not committed to it. So what is commitment, really? A promise? A contract? Accountability?? Or is it, in essence, something ELSE? My hubby defines commitment as "How bad do you want it?"

OH... I'm allowed to want?! What do I want & why?? And will I change my mind?? I mean, some days I want chocolate... and other days I want something else - garlic bread! "Want" seems to not be consistent enough to carry out a task, commit to a goal/process over time. It doesn't have enough energy behind it, either.

So then, I started back with the old script tapes:  why try? why bother? won't work anyway; bound to fail; it doesn't matter - I don't matter. OKkkkkk... so this gets to shame again... and for some miraculous reason I was at the point where I could see that all through "my story" is an underlying theme: in 53 years I haven't been able to find a way to get my mother to take care of my emotional needs.... I FAILED to matter to her in that way... and like a dork, I've kept trying... head to brick wall... stubbornness, I guess. Or maybe it was a survival instinct in infanthood - and the needle got stuck on that groove of my neuro-vinyl; pushed down HARD into the groove because of the later trauma - reinforced seemingly permanently. That survival instinct is life-death; one NEVER gives up.... and so creates that force that opposes all manner of intention or goals that I call "resistance".

That cycle - or circle of hell - I'm calling: the giving up that never gives up.
And "want" gets kicked to ditch... in favor of the all-consuming want of "get mother to care about me" or be important to mother just for who I am... not for what I can do (which is never "right" you know, because it's not the way she would do it).

Getting myself out of the "tar barrel":

At some point, kids are expected, trained, and encouraged to become independent - and responsible for their own emotions; independent emotionally. Normally, anyway. Maybe I mean ideally. Each person's path to this goal is just as fraught with pitfalls, imperfections, injustice, hurt and loss. Every single one. No one gets it perfect. There is no deadline for this. We all get there when we get there. There is no magical "healed" state - just human-ness.

The tar barrel that I got thrown into - because I would "never give up" - is that one-pointed focus of intention; my purpose of being was DEPENDENT on that life-death struggle for survival (identity-survival I guess) that defined success as: I am important to mother just for who I am. It's a lifetime of survival attempt engraved on my brain... hell, the potholes in the pathways and the debris on the highway make for distractions, circuituous navigation, frustration and impatience!! It's as old as my freckles; as much a part of me, too.

uh..... DUH! At this stage of life - there are other more important things to me. So how do I get out of the tar barrel... now? I don't think I have another 53 years to work at this. And like quicksand... the more I struggle the more "stuck" I get. OK - really giving up is an option: reject the want... remind myself my survival doesn't depend ONLY on that one objective... and let myself forget about this life-long detour - let it go. It's only one failure and after all, I don't have to blame anyone - not her, not myself - it is what it is.

But OH, guess what? Letting it go requires intention, too... something's still missing.

And that is addressing the "I don't matter". There are so many things that my mother neglected to teach me; that I had to learn elsewhere - like brushing my teeth before going to bed (she thought that was just stupid; once in the morning was good enough). I was terribly embarrassed at needing to learn these things; ashamed. And of course, the "blame" for that lies squarely with my mom. I was SOOOOOOOOOO ashamed of my parents..... please.... the neighbors called the cops when my Dad was drunk, fighting on the lawn with the old, old woman he brought home to torture my mom with. I hope they were clothed; they weren't when my mom forced me to witness them having sex so that I would "see how much Daddy loves you??" And how sensitive and self-conscious is a NORMAL 12 yr old??? Let alone one who's chronically anxious, fearful, and already parentified? (Sorry; Twiggy wanted to tell you 'coz she trusts & likes you; she knows you won't think she's LIKE THEM.)

The last bit about how shame figures into this is that Twiggy couldn't divorce her parents. She was too smart to runaway - she knew she needed food, clothing & shelter and she couldn't get this for herself at her age. Later... during the "shunned" period... when she was so thoroughly gaslighted and confused about what happened... she made a huge, glaring, mistake. No one else "did" this mistake to her - she did it to herself. She took all the big ugly pile of messy shame she felt about her parents... and she "made it go away" by being responsible for it; neither parent acted like they had any shame... it was just a barrel of tar that SHE was stuck in... it must belong to her, because no one else was claiming it. She made it go away by taking it with her when she "went into the box" - and left just Amber in "me". Nice try, Twiggy. That didn't work either, coz the stench of the tar and Twiggy herself came tumbling out of my unconsciousness - always at the most inconvenient times!

Twiggy's big mistake was letting that tar barrel of shame convince HER that "I don't matter"... that because she felt so horrible it meant that she was "bad" - shameful - just like her parents. (Remember, she wasn't allowed to have boundaries and there was a ton of mom-projections going on too. It was much, much "safer" to not matter.)

And there WAS something else Twiggy wanted: she wanted a mom she could be proud enough of to say - SHE'S my mom and I'm happy to be like her in some ways. She kept attaching herself to "substitute moms"... looking for characteristics that matched up with her talents... looking for deficits and gaps... and "fixing" them.... learning.

Over the last four years, I've felt more and more that Twiggy is me - and vice versa. I became that "mom" she wanted. She is still clinging to that resistance - that life-death struggle to not matter; to stay safe from the barrel of tar/shame that really doesn't belong to her - and I keep gently trying to get her to give up that struggle... to show her it's "safe" now... and to accept things I want her to do to become emotionally independent and secure. To take care of herself. Coz, no matter how many times I have to say it or show her - she matters to me at the life-death level. That, I think... is commitment. That is also intention: how to get to a goal. And it "always is"... it's consistent over time... will help push through the difficulties that I know will arise... will provide encouragement to "get up and try again" in the face of a mistake or set back...

Before I get to blathering (tee-hee! this is already too long) - Twiggy and I are now working together on a big project. I just started a new journal and while we're allowed to reference the past in all it's gory detail... the journal is NOT about the past. It's a dictionary - a definition - of Twiggy/Amber - who I am now... and what else I want to be. We are working together to choose goals, create intention and action plans, to move into "now" and progress to the future... without any "hangovers" from the past. I know I can't do this without Twiggy's cooperation. She still needs some maturing time, too. Some reassurance that it's finally OK to be her - sans the crap in the barrel... and she's got some catching up to do, age-wise, too.

"Yes, I am a pirate - 200 years too late..."
I have thoroughly hijacked your thread, GS..... in my defense, I'll only say I've missed you that much!! Can you come back to play?
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Re: Mother of wildness seeking calm out of madness
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 09:57:58 AM »
CB! Hi!!! You posted while I was writing war & peace...

On the topic of food, yes absolutely - gardening, cooking, and then savoring the results - is a concrete tangible "connection" to the earth mother energy - nurturing, healing, joyful. The earth itself can render harmless all kinds of toxic substances - including nuclear waste. It takes a while, in human terms... but the earth mother has a whole different time-frame than we use.

It's a very spiritual path, as you've pointed out.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2009, 01:46:39 PM »
learning that deadlines and accountability generate the necessary and proper neural workings.  Yesterday I created an artificial deadline by inviting people to dinner.  There is an interesting pattern that is beginning to make itself obvious to me.  I am finding that I am ending up right back where Hopsy took me several years ago.  The one square at a time concept.  When the "whole" overwhelms and sends me to the "no zone" I am learning to look at one, teeny weeny particular and focus, focus, focus.  Often, starting with the one moves me toward finishing the task.  Start with the one.  Then task accomplished I can move to my "no zone", safe, withdrawal aka online.  This "no zone" is soothing, comforting, a safe retreat but it is time to limit my access to it and move out into functioning functionability.