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Redhead Erin

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Is my son's childhood **too** happy?
« on: October 07, 2009, 10:52:57 AM »
Well, I am just speechless this morning. 

My darling little boy9 eight years old)  had barely opened his eyes this morning, when he announced to me that he was angry over the death of a betta fish we had had for a few months about 4 years ago. I don't think he has any true memory of this fish, besides what he has heard us talking about. Not saying that because of his age, but because of the kinds of questions he has asked about it.  What kind was it, what color was it, etc. 

Anyway, the fish died of a bacterial infection known as "ick."  My husband and I spent probably close to a hundred dollars (which we could not afford at the time) trying to cure this fish.

Apparently, the beginning of this was, when we went to buy new filter media for my son's crayfish, I bought a little betta fish on a whim. Kiddo has been possessive of the fish ever since I got it, trying to claim ownership of it, saying the fish might be mine but the tank was his,  wanted to move the fish into his room, etc.  I have told him he needs to finish building the community in his aquarium before he gets any other animals, including a betta which needs to live in a smaller tank.  Then I told him to keep his mitts off my fish.  :lol:  So now I guess he is mad at my husband because the other fish died. 

This is not the first time something like this has happened.  As you can imagine, my husband and I do all we can to give our son a good and happy childhood. Because of the way I was raised, I absolutely insist of fair and consistent discipline.   In spite of this, Kiddo screams and threatens us when he does not get his way (fortunately this is growing rarer).  He wants to do horrible things to people for minor infractions (for example, if another kid says something mean to him, he wants to tie up that kid and throw him off a cliff.) He thinks the whole entire world is a big conspiracy against kids. And he thinks I abuse him. He has all these anger issues that make no sense whatsoever to me.

Lest you think I spoil him, I am pretty sure I don't.  Ted and I stay up at night trying to choose the best course of action sometimes.  When I say no, I mean no, and nothing changes my mind.  Whining, hate speech, tantrums, and so on get him sent to the quiet step to cool off. We explain carefully why what he is doing is wrong or unacceptable or whatever.  We are certainly not perfect parents, but we try our very best and I really believe we are doing most of the right things. 

That being said, I sometimes think this kid is going to grow up to be a criminal or a serial killer, or at the very least, one of those horrible bitter cynical people who finds no joy in life and makes everyone else miserable.

Has anybody else had this problem with their kids?  Did they grow out of it?  Am I worrying for nothing?  HELP!

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Re: Is my son's childhood **too** happy?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 11:44:30 AM »
Erin,

I work with kids with behavioral problems, and I don't think it would hurt anything to find someone that works with kids and their families (psychologist) and see him/her a few times. And, it might help. You can probably find the best person for the job by asking other parents for recommendations ... other parents will know who is effective and good to work with.

If there are things you are unintentionally doing to trigger his upsetting behaviors, someone who sees you interact together would be more likely to see it. Also, a third party observer can reassure you if what you are dealing with is a difference in your son's temperament rather than a problem with the way you deal with him.

It is hard to know what to say over a forum like this, because I can't observe you with your son. Even if you are fair and consistent with discipline, just the fact that you are distressed or upset over what he says may be rewarding to him. And if so, really only someone who sees you in-person can help you untangle WHY it would be rewarding to him to upset you.

As a parent, the hardest thing I have had to accept is that I don't get to make my kids' decisions for them. They don't really belong to me --- they belong to themselves and to God. I get to be a part of their lives and to have them part of mine, and to pour as many good things (both love and discipline) into them as I can before it's time for them to fly away into adulthood. Even the very very young are not little robots that, if we know the correct buttons to push, will behave exactly correctly all the time.

One of the main things I tell parents when we draw up a behavior plan for their child and work on changing their parenting strategies: Just because there are things you can change to make things better, does not make the problem your "fault." All any person/parent can do is their level best. That is all we are responsible for.

Two of my kids are grown and two are almost grown. I have posted some serious worries about one of my kids elsewhere on this forum ... and I work with kids for a living!!! When my eldest son was little, once I turned to my husband and demanded, "Why didn't you tell me parenthood was going to be so hard?" and he replied, "Because I didn't know!"




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Re: Is my son's childhood **too** happy?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 12:02:55 PM »
Hi Erin,
HP sounds like she has experience with kids and has some good advice.

I have experience with Betas and don't know why they even sell meds for them. I have never seen a really sick beta revive. Often the best medicine when they get sluggish is a war environment. Whether its fin rot, bloating or ick, once sick they've always died on me and I have had them on and off for years. I've heard that old antiseptic Mercurochrome works best when applied to them, but it is hard to find and I never tried it.

I also find that a full sized Aquarium with furnishings are best for them, especially if you have a male and female together. Mine have lived longest in larger tanks.

Good luck with your son!
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Re: Is my son's childhood **too** happy?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 02:34:47 PM »
Erin:

My best advice is to say, that if you feel something is wrong with your son's behavior, then go with your gut and talk to a professional.  I think it would be better to be told that nothing is wrong, then to not have done something when we could.

In my experience of a parent of now grown children, I always just went with my instincts.  We know our children better than anyone.  We have no role models to follow and certainly cannot go to our NM's.  In my case I did have a wonderful MIL to get advice from, but at the end of the day it was mine and my DH's decision.

I hope that helps.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 02:03:53 PM »
I think you are right.  I am going to have to take him to a pro.  It will have to be Catholic Charities or something inexpensive like that, because I will have to lose a day of work to take him.  God, that sounds like I am so cheap, but it's not really true.  But when I am going to lose about $100 or more just to take the time off work, I can't compound the problem by paying out another $50 or so a session.  I did try to take him this summer, but the state cut off funding for the program we were supposed to go into, and I never pursued it.

As for the fish:   Sealynx, we had the betta that died in a 75 gallon tank, and it seemed happy until it got sick.  Everyone told us we should have kept it in a smaller tank and I thought maybe it got exhausted swimming back and forth. We got another male and 3 females, which I think somebody at the fish store told us to do, and they all got sick.  Also, female A picked on Female B, and both of them picked on Female C, so that she hid in a plant until she got ick.  We found Mercurachrome at a pet store, and it didnt help anything, either.


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Re: Is my son's childhood **too** happy?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2009, 02:58:55 PM »
No, it does not sound like you are cheap. Some other ideas for discounted help are: universities in your area that offer PhDs in child counseling or master's degrees in marriage and family therapy. In my area there is a MFT clinic that is university based and charges on a sliding scale. You get students, but they are supervised by faculty. You can ask if you can be assigned to an older student, someone who has kids of their own, if you would be more comfortable.

Also, look at the University of Florida website. There is a special therapeutic program designed at the U of F (Sheila Eyberg) called PCIT (Parent-Child Interaction Therapy). They have some handouts used with PCIT that you can read online that may give you some good ideas to use with your son. It was mainly created for children with conduct problems, but has been expanded to include problems like anxiety and depression, so their ideas are widely useful.

And, I think you are helping your son when you help yourself, and as I read your postings, I know that you are working on healing yourself. You should pat yourself on the back for the steps you are taking to heal --- your son will benefit from your healing.

Hang in there.

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 01:23:15 PM »
Hi Erin

I do think it is important for 'no to mean no' with children as they are more secure with boundaries. However I also feel that they need to gradually develop the skill of reasoned discussion when they disagree with someone. But as other people have said, a professional would help.

My friends son used to have huge tantrums all of the time, even in his early teens. He is grown up now and a really lovely chap. He just grew out of it.