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Workplace bullying
« on: June 24, 2010, 03:51:51 AM »
I know I've talked about this before here, but I couldn't find the thread:/

My fears were confirmed today my boss wants to remove me from an area at work which happens to be my area of expertise.  This person I have worked with in the past said I was inefficient after looking for other faults which she could not find.  I called my boss on it very diplomatically and said this is a smokescreen.  She said.... It's not a good "fit".  I am very disappointed cause my boss let the "bully" win this one.  This may change my career as well.  I'm professionally embarassed and know she is right there is no way to face this clique of people.

I'm just totally bummed once again the bully "wins"!  My boss admitted she understood what I'm talking about.  I told her the harder I worked the worse it got.  There were situations where the staff would insist on taking more work to make it look as if I could not handle it.

Once again a bully decides something for me.  I have so many connections at this instution (a university) and it's embarassing I couldn't handle these people.

Any one have some morale support, I can't sleep!!  Anyone know of a book about workplace politics.  I want to learn more from this than knowing once again bullies rule the roost.

Anyone experience workplace violence or harassment..... Sabotage?

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 10:11:28 AM »
Swimmer, that's awful!  Is your boss intimidated by these bullies as well?

I, too, was also trying to find something on workplace politics.

I was let go from a job, because my current job found out that I was looking for other jobs. They tried to sabotage things by making it look like I was doing something wrong, so they could justify letting me go.  My boss lied about clients complaining about me (my client denied this and called my boss a c*nt for lying), and how I wasn't committed to my clients' care, due to looking for other jobs.  I challenged my boss about this, and that gave her more reason to term me.  I broke down in her office, and was coerced into resigning against my will.  I was scared that she might do something bad to me, if I didn't cooperate. This agency was known for getting revenge on people that leave.

I complained to HR, and they were on her side. Everybody outside of the agency was shocked and disgusted, on the other hand.  No matter how much you complain about that agency, nothing is done.  The owner is a very wealthy psychologist.  This just goes to show how many social service agencies are abusive on the inside.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 01:07:54 PM »
I have spent years considering this very issue.

With only knowledge of what you have written, I will none-the-less offer my own analysis of these situations in general.
As a person who has grown up in an N family, I am very sensitive to Ns and injustice and I am reactive.  I have learned that people who have thicker skins are more successful and itmay be that they actually experience less of this barbarism.  But where I am going with this is easy to write and very, very difficult to execute.  The only way to deal with this is to find a way to be less reactive.  Do not fight it.  It is like a Tar Baby.  The more you fight it and try to work out a reasonable solution with reasonable people the worse off you will be.  Do not allow yourself to slip into humiliation.  I know that sounds insane but I am serious.  how can you do this?  By recognizing yourself as a lonely warrior for truth and survival in the midst of insanity and depravity.  Those are strong words but I am not joking.

There are many examples of great heroes and unknown heroes who have weathered incomprehensible situations.  One excellent example is Nelson Mandela.  I encourage you to read a biography about him or better yet an autobiography.  The very thing that allowed him to survive is what it takes for all of us N victims to survive.  It is a determination and belief in the greater truth even when surrounded by people who don't. 

Decide if you are going to stay or not.  If you do not stay you still must do the work internally to prepare for your next job.  That means that you must keep your own truth to yourself or your closest, non-work, friends.  Here is another book that is quick to read but astonishing about a man who had a goal and faced incredible workplace and lifetime harassment - The Pursuit of Happyness.

My strongest advice is to not expect, nor look for justice or understanding with HR or superiors in this job or any other.  It will not happen.  Being quiet will not necessarily bring it about but speaking out will certainly obviate justice.

Another area of reading that might be helpful is any work about whistleblowers and the injustice they receive for doing the right thing.

Do not give up but learn to play to survive.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 01:22:30 PM »
I see something in what Strength wrote (wonderful explanation, Strength--your perspective was very encouraging) that is key to how I handle the things that I trip over in life.

She has sought out stories to create a support team for what she is going through.  Maybe we are surrounded by people who dont "get it", but the world is a big place and history is very long.  There are many, many people who have been through what we have (or much worse) and have been voiceless and confused and without support.  If they have written about their experiences and what they have learned then they become OUR support team.  They help us make sense of what is happening that, without that outside voice, feels random and unusual.

The fact is: these workplace (and social, and family, and cultural and national and ethnic...) bullying situations are very common and the people who survive them and even thrive have something in common.  I devour stories like what Strength recommends to find out what that something is.  And I have gotten from them what she has: to thrive, you hold your peace, your voice and dont cast your pearls before you-know-what.  Choosing not to speak, not to put yourself out where little people can use you for target practice is NOT voicelessness.  Sometimes it is wisdom.

Much support to you NoLonger and to you, Strength--you are a constant encouragement to me.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 05:14:51 PM »
CB-

Thx so much for your wisdom!  I think you are right, and I'm trying to see this from my Boss's point of view.  My boss spent time cracking the whip on this group a few years ago.  I diplomatically got her to admit it wasnt my work... And she admitted it was not a good fit m working there.  I'll be taking on some assignments other places and want to learn how to present myself more low profile.

The thing that really clicked for me is this could have been prevented by leaving this job sooner.  All the signs were there... I'm a healthcare practioner and was holding someones airway open helping and a coworker yelled at me to stop.  That should have been a hint to run for the hills.  I've been so tenacious my whole life with my mother, I thought it was normal to exert this energy to "get along" in a difficult culture. 

Since my own mother blackballed me on and off my whole life... I'm worried about this happening now when I get other assignments around the university.  I hope I'm being paranoid though.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 05:21:56 PM »
Nolongeraslave-

That sounds really messed up and complicated.  My heart goes out to you.... The web of complication is such a toxic scenario.  People who want things to work are careful about relationships and connections.  It's like, get a life to toxic people.  Much of their meditative time is spent on weaving this web...  In the postings you've made here, sounds like you are more than that:)

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 08:03:32 PM »
Nolongeraslave-

That sounds really messed up and complicated.  My heart goes out to you.... The web of complication is such a toxic scenario.  People who want things to work are careful about relationships and connections.  It's like, get a life to toxic people.  Much of their meditative time is spent on weaving this web...  In the postings you've made here, sounds like you are more than that:)

I'm just mad at myself for signing the resignation form. My boss kept glaring at me, as if she was trying to make me feel uncomfortable.  I think she knew that I was easy to coerce under duress and shock.

if I didn't sign the resignation, a lawyer says I would have more evidence to sue them.  They also tried to make it look like it was my fault, and that they weren't "attacking me". Bullshit.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 01:26:47 AM »
Gaining Strength-

thx for book recommendations and thoughts.  More later, must go to bed now.... Baby gets up really early:)

Nolongeraslave, I know how you feel that that boss "won".  I have some thoughts on this similar to my own situation I'll share as I process that may make this sort of thing better in the long run.  It's all a process....

More very soon...thx again friends:)

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 06:12:02 AM »
Book - Bullies at Work - by Dr. Gary Namie
websites:
http://www.bulliesbegoneblog.com/
workplacebullying.org    - Dr. Namie's site.

Namie is a nationally recognized expert on bullying

I've learned (the hard way, of course) that HR tends not to like complaining. They think the employee is being petty, employee should manage interpersonal work conflict themself,  shows an inability to work/relate well to others, is a sign to them that of not focused on your job/position; they might decide the employee is  not management material b/c employee doesn't handle conflict well, might view employee as a underperformer/complainer or passive/reactive - which leads them to conclude the employee is disgruntled. 

The way to deal with this is to assert yourself and declare boundaries  w/boss/co-workers whenever possible, don't involve HR unless absolutely necessary and if you do, tell them, "I tried to resolve this on my own, but was unsuccessful, I'm being retaliated against and can you help me resolve this (and then offer a possible solution, if possible)".  Tell them you want this issue resolved, its affecting your work and you want to remain with the company.  This will tell them you mean business about doing your job/staying (which also might counter what they hear).

Hope this helps. This kind of stuff has kept me up as well!

 

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 01:36:33 AM »
Thx for the info on the websites Ales2.  & thx Gaining Strength for sharing as well.  I'm on a trip and intermittantly "processing", and will post more soon.  I posted something last night but it didn't show up for some reason.  Sometimes iPhone's do this to me with yahoo groups and forums.  Anyways...

Thank you friends, I'll post something in the next day.... I just wanted to let you guys know your posts have provoked some very solid resolutions I think may stick so thank you:))

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 06:20:18 PM »
Gaining strength-  Great advice!  There is indeed a difference between voicelessness and remaining low key.  I'm an extrovert, so I'm challenged with this.  I really don't care if people don't "like" me, but coming after me is a little agressive.  I'm meditating on this and appreciate you pointing out the fine differences involved.  I'm going to study this and remain low profile.... I think ultimately I'll move on from this job.  I'll educate myself in the meantime on how to carry on, and how to start off in the next job.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 04:25:40 PM »
While I was living with my exN I was working in a place where there were about twenty employees as part of a much larger organization. We were supposed to be the resource team for all the other staff.Our supervisor was an N but I knew nothing of this kind of person or what they could do.
When she hired me she actually hugged me and said she was so happy to have found someone to work in my job. I work with people with severe physical and mental disabilities and design programs for them so that they can be integrated into jobs or school. I have a lot of experience doing this and a lot of education. While during my first year I worked in remote areas and made friends with an itinerant psychologist who was older than me and mentored me in difficult new job. This woman was very gifted in working with parents, teachers, children no matter what culture they came from. I was proud to be her friend and colleague. Although she did not tell me about what was going on with Administration, I realized that she was persona non grata. No one sat beside her at staff meetings and the boss seemed to stiffen up whenever my friend spoke. Whatever she contributed, no matter how clear and brilliant, was made wrong. I thought this was really weird so I made sure to sit with her in these staff situations. There were many undercurrents and because I have studied group dynamics and body language I realized this group was seriously unhealthy.

Then things began to happen to me and I became like my friend. Out of the loup. Excluded from important decision making, not given an office along with the other resouce staff in the posh main office and given so much work to do that I was beyond swamped. I was really hurt by the exclusion I felt from other staff members and I felt so off kilter because I could not grasp the agenda that was going on and of which I did not have a clue. One concrete thing that happened was that I was told to send in all my reports immediately for evaluation. They came back with dozens of requests for corrections. (I am a good report writer and have never had trouble with this in twenty years.)  I corrected the changes and they came back again. This is not good and I had other work to do. Then these reports were given to one of the lesser administrators and I had to do more corrections. The two supervisers had different perspectives and goals in writing these reports so I had to sort of shift priorities once more and do the reports. This happpened TWICE.  I felt so undermined. I work at a very challenging job with parents who are extremely stressed about their kids with disabilities, overworked teacher who dont want to or cant understand how to  accomodate kids who are challenged.   

Then I received a call at the start of the year for eight files and my supervisor wanted them in two days. It was the start of the year, offices had changed and there was a deluge of things that had to be dealt with other than those files. I spent three days trying to find the files on my computer but I could not access my computer. No tech person was available so I tried everything. Finally, I begged a tech person to come. She spent a morning trying to figure out what was going on with my computer. I am not a techy so if she would not do it, I certainly could not. The techy, A, said that she was going to get to the bottom of this. And she did. She said that my supervisor had changed my password the day before she asked for me to get the files.  A. said that this is really strange and I better watch my back. She also said," You aren't the first". This went on for years and nearly drove me insane.
She got the different places I went to to distrust me and check up on ridiculous things.

Later, years later, I found out that this woman always targeted a couple of people a year. She destroyed them. My friend from the beginning was involved in a lawsuit and was gagged from speaking about it so she did not tell me enough to help me. There was another woman who was targeted and she said it took five years off her life. She was told by the district and the lawyer not to speak either. I find this sickening. They could have thrown me a lifeline.
Both these women were lovely, strong, humorous, brilliant and competent. So the targets were not chosen because they were poor at their jobs; they weren't incompetent. They were chosen because they were a threat to my boss. This boss was sleeping with her superviser and I think the guy got off on all this.

The staff were so scared that they would be the next target that they just sucked up to the supervisor more intensively.

So this narcissism in the workplace really exists and it is lethal. Trying to explain what is happening makes the victim look like a paranoid incompetant who is just doing a sour grapes routine.

In my case I could not quit my job as I was supporting my N partner. It was coming at me from two fronts. Two years ago the supervisor died but the culture of the workplace barely changed because the staff were entrenched in the old order. It was heartbreaking for me. I worked really hard as a single mom to get my education and to create a career. I cared passionately about my work. What that woman did to me with the help of her minions was appauling.

Last year one of the women who went through it validated what had happened to me and said it happened to her too. That helped. She did not want to talk much about it. She was still scared.

I would like to hear what people have to say about what I wrote


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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2010, 04:46:56 PM »
All I can really say is I believe you, Sea Storm.

I have been in so many toxic workplaces.

What makes it particularly awful, imo, is that people NEED their jobs.
Survival isn't always as easy as just, go find something else.

I think this is why a lot of people start their own businesses.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2010, 06:29:47 PM »
Swimmer,
Your thread here is a great one and the resources are so helpful for my own selfish reasons that is! :shock:

All I can say is that work is a four letter word when things like this go down.  The workplace bully is so amazing to me.  What is it about them?  I've had sleepless nights about a bully at my previous job and it was horrible.  I like what Gaingingstrength wrote about being less reactive and not trying to reason with unreasonable people, it will never work out.  I tried to resolve things myself and reason, blah, blah, blah, and booom!  It all blew up in my face.

Seastorm, your story was enthralling.  What a waste of people's intelligence, gifts and resources.  A royal waste.  But N's do this.  They are bound and determined to get rid of whatever it is that challenges them or whomever and then squash them to feel bigger.  They have to bring you down, down, down so that they can feel up, up, up.  The way she sabotaged you is telling.  This is her sickness not yours so just be thankful.  If that happened to me, I would thank my lucky stars that I'm not like that or could not do something like that to someone; so there is your "one up" on her, eventhough she's dead now, is that right?


This whole thread got me thinking about bullies in general and I don't want to hijack Swimmer's thread so I may make a new one.

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Re: Workplace bullying
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2010, 07:25:17 PM »
A good book to read is "The Sociopath Next Door". It talks about the way that sociopaths sabotage others at work. They do it for fun I think. It is such madness.

The ways that they sabotage include:  slandering, which happens when you are not there but you reap what they sow, managing your work in odd ways ( Loading it on or taking it away), minimizing what you say or feel, promoting and acknowledging co workers who have less seniority, experience or knowledge, excluding you in all sorts of ways, rewarding others but not you and on and on. They do all this and can maintain a cheery attitude toward you.  From what I have seen there is nothing one can do. If you were very perspicatious you could document everything and save it. A pattern might emerge. Apparently most people win wrongful dismissals if they hire lawyers but sociopaths prefer to drive their targets to quitting.

The collusion of co-workers makes beating such employers at their own game next to impossible. That lack of conscious and the pleasure they derive from crushing employees is a bad combination. It gets to be a group think. I stuck this situation out to the point where it affected my health. Looking back, I think it would have been better to get out sooner. I have been a slave to my mortgage. It is all I have for retirement.

Keep writing about your experience Swimmer. It is not that uncommon and happens to good people.


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