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sKePTiKal

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2011, 08:59:04 AM »
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I am horrified at how much crap I have in my house.

Me too, sweetie - me too! It's a trigger into my own feelings of being "less important than the stuff"... a big feature in my mom's hoarding issues. She has important relationships with her "stuff" - because she isn't able to have relationships with people, is my theory.

I just have to say that I'm very impressed with all your decisions after that first post, two days ago. Good job! That "big chunk" of you that seems to be "missing"? It might be busy, pre-occupied and obsessed with resolving old fears, conflicts, doublebinds but isn't able to since she's so young... in other words, I think you might recover that part of you as you start to work through the issues with your stepdad. Maybe not all in a whoosh, at once... maybe gradually. I'm still working on integrating that part of "me" with my life now... from my own history. There are some surprises - pleasant ones! - in this process. If I'd known there was an upside to this process, it would've helped me manage some of the fear - that was my own, at this age - about opening my own can of worms.

Oh, that reminds me! About the fear... I don't know if I can say this in a way that you can grasp yet... but the overwhelming, totally consuming fear belongs to the 12 yr old you. She is still afraid. And she's asking for help - like you did with your first post of this thread. The things that are so frightening at that age, sometimes are still fearful to adults - but adults have some extra capacity for dealing with fear; experience that helps them go on in spite of fear, etc. It's not a disabling, overwhelming fear anymore to adults, even if it remains significant. Still to be reckoned with; but not an invincible obstacle.

You, yourself, can help comfort that little girl... protect her... calm those fears and help her come to a new understanding of what she went through. The journal will get that process going and your T can help, too. But, most importantly - you'll be there helping her; your "missing piece" will be found, recognized, soothed and protected by the same tiger-mom woman who told sister's bully ex where to go in no uncertain terms... and found out that felt really good! This is sort the blurb-edition of the type of healing that I sense you're on the verge of.

It will be OK, it will be alright - keep telling that 12 yr old you're going to help her now, every time the fear starts to threaten to break through in a flood. Tell her you'll set aside a special time - just for her because she's important to YOU. And then start doing it. Just sit quietly and comfortably in a peaceful part of your day and ask if she's there and what she wants to talk about - and then start writing that down, as it comes. It might get difficult; she might clam up again. Or she might feel so relieved that it comes faster and faster in such big torrents... that you don't have enough time to get it all down! You can gently remind her that her time is up for now, that she surely won't forget where she was in telling her story to you, and that you'll pick up where you left off tomorrow.

It wasn't long after I started journalling this way, that I could start to tell which was my 12 yr old voice and which was me now: processing, understanding, creating a full picture of what happened - a clear narrative - and then digesting it (finally!!) and moving on to the next bit of the story. And I started to finally understand that I could help myself heal those old wounds; the things that were completely indigestible - unfathomable - and so, incomprehensibly resolvable way back when. But I started it all, with the T. I absolutely needed another person - in 3D - because of the intensity of my fear. There were two clearly separate working phases... and I didn't start working on finding my "missing piece" - until I went back after a break of some months. It's almost as if I needed to build up some confidence and trust - in myself and in the process with the T - first. And then we tackled the real reason I was there.

Good luck, sweetie! I'll keep checking back to see how you're doing... if you come across something you need help with or whatever. I think you'll feel ever so much better when you start to get the "poisonous infection" out of your system!
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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2011, 10:32:53 AM »
Hope blue turns rosy soon! -- whatever the reason -- I am the process of getting rid of stuff too - it is helping!  And handling all the stuff I'm getting rid of has helped me to "resist" further acquisitions.  We are keeping a few caches of abject junk as a reminder -- until I am "stronger."  As long as I have so much removal to do -- and am facing the hoard -- I am less likely to desire or accumulate more.  And we have given a lot away -- these days there is so much need -- better than having something useful take up space.  Love, Biddy

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2011, 02:23:11 PM »
Phoenix, thank you, I will keep reading what you have written.  I think my little girl is getting ready to talk to me.  My T suggested a 'chair' exercise quite a while ago - two chairs, where one is your adult self and one is your child.  There is a conversation between the two.  She says it's very powerful and can be very cathartic.  I have been too scared to do it.  Maybe it's time.  Thank you.

BD, I completely agree with you about not acquiring more!  It's so easy to accept a bag of clothes or toys from a friend, or to come out of a charity shop with a bag full of stuff.  I must not do it any more!

As for my house - well, it's almost empty.  I have cleared out every cupboard except for one.  I have got rid of so many things that I reckon the books and paperwork etc that I do need/want to keep will all fit in the big cupboard in the hallway now.  That will just mean some decorative shelving in the front room for my nice pictures and a few small ornaments that I've kept.  The place needs a good clean and re-decorating but that can be done bit by bit.  I am absolutely knackered and still have a couple more car loads to get rid of.  But I feel so much better for doing it!

Thank you, everyone, for kick starting me on this and getting my clutter shifted! xx

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2011, 02:58:05 PM »
::picturing Tupp, glowing in the unexpected energy of uncluttered space::

Yes: )

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 09:02:01 AM »
I think I'm going to have start calling you "Penny" for short, instead of Tupps - lucky Penny!

Catharsis, is a good way to understand this kind of work. It really felt like removing a poison arrow that kept dripping a time-release amount of poison into me - or like a huge, invisible burden had been lifted from my shoulders (more like removing a mean, nasty smelly "monkey" off my back!) I was so reluctant to even let myself remember what I knew (as child me) that I worked in therapy for about a year and half before I started. I like to say that my T introduced me to my child me... and that we became very BFFs shortly after. My T even let me dive into the "I wish I'd had someone to help me do this all those years ago" for awhile. But she didn't let that "harden" into an attitude of self-pity, an excuse for not trying to change now, or even regret/resentment. She kept pushing me into "NOW" - after we'd processed what was "stuck" back in child-me's craw.

So - little Penny is LUCKY - because she's got you coming to rescue her.
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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 12:07:37 PM »
Phoenix, I just did what you suggested and tried talking to her.  I've called her Penny.  I told her I'd look after her and keep her safe.  I wrote down what came into my head from her.  I had to stop after ten minutes, it was so intense it made me feel sick.  I feel very shaky and a bit light headed.  But I am glad I made a start.  I'm glad she trusts me enough to start telling me about it.  Thank you for suggesting this to me.  I wll try and do a little every day.  Thank you ((((()))))))

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 03:06:55 PM »
Wow! That was brave, Penny....

if you're having such strong reactions from the get-go, it tells me that little Penny is READY to be heard... but at the beginning, it's good to keep the time allotted for this very short. Especially if it's already intense. Do your relaxation breathing... your "safe" exercises... right after writing or engaging in conversation with her - it'll help both of you to make that part of the routine... sort of an emotional "cool down". Maybe don't do this everyday; start every other day - or longer intervals - until you get a working relationship established.

When's your visit with your T? You don't want to get too far ahead - or too far out on a limb, either! It'll take too long to get her caught up with "current events"...
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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 08:48:22 PM »
I'm seeing her next week.  I don't feel like I can switch it off now.  Bits have been flashing into my head all day; I slept for about an hour tonight and then was wide awake again.  My brain's just swirling bits round and round.  I've written down what I can but it's got too jumbled now and foggy.  I've felt sick all day.  I've got some herbal tablets to help me sleep, I think I might take some otherwise I'll be wrecked all day tomorrow.  It feels like it's all tumbling out.  I expect it's good, in the long run.  Just feels a bit much at the minute xx

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 06:25:34 AM »
Well - this kind of emotional spewing, actually qualifed for me (in my judgement), as an official "sick day". I could do this - but it's harder for mom to have a "day off". I had a few of those, initially. It was real important for me to "honor" the things that were coming out - take them very seriously, while still keeping the perspective that it was a long time ago and to always, always follow up with a hug, and comfort session for the little girl who had been lugging this huge secret around, for such a long time.

Once the bits become a narrative - or even as little as an outline of a narrative... there has to be a rest period. Patting the little girl's hair & back... holding her... telling her you're sorry - it wasn't her fault - and you will help her now. Thank her for telling you. Tell her it's important to you to hear everything and that you're not going anyway until she's done. She'll start to calm down and will slow down... she might be afraid this is her only chance to "get it all out" and be heard, you know? Once she gets used to the fact that you'll be there, as often as she needs you... she'll relax a little and slow down enough for you to continue to function.

I suggest you take what you've written with you next week. Not to let the T read it - but as a reference for you. The privacy of the journals might need to be upheld... in the beginning. It might be hard to remember everything; the order of things; the important themes in all the details of little Penny's long-stored memory. It might not happen with you, but I had a hard time "remembering" what had seemed so important that I got out of bed and went to my writing at the other end of the house, even if it was just the night before!

These inner children can be just like real children! They need some guidelines, limits, ground rules - and lots & lots of attention.
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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 08:21:24 AM »
Thanks P, your posts are really helping xx  I barely slept last night so I feel exhausted today but somehow cleaner?  On the inside I mean.  It's hard to describe it but although my body feels shattered my spirit feels quite calm and peaceful.  Does that make sense?  usually it's my inside that's in turmoil but today it feels like she's sleeping.  We are having an easy day today.  We visited a friend this morning, we're going to the park after lunch and then he has his club this afternoon, so I'm going to go food shopping and stock up on ready meals.  Usually I cook every day but I figured it would be better to get some easy food in for days like this so I can just heat things up and not have to do anything.  I won't try and write today, just spend the day resting.  Thank you for all your feedback, it's really helping me xxx

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2011, 09:10:10 AM »
I understand - it's like an infection is starting to clear up. Or pain is going away... the source of the pain is being removed from "inside". You - and little Penny - will naturally be tired, but the rest you get now, will be healing.
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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2011, 09:44:29 AM »
Tupp:

A psychologist friend of mine gave up regular therapy sessions in order to write a book on becoming more charming.

He said "If I have to give out bandaids, I'd rather give out pretty bandaids."

This he said with resignation and a broken heart, bc, in his opinion, people aren't typically willing to do the work you're doing right now.

It's just too painful, and humans spend their lives going from one distraction to another, in order to avoid that pain.

Through the fire is the only way out, Tupp.

When it gets really hard, remember that pain is salvation, not destruction.

(((((Tupp))))) 

On another note..... I'm determined to have an upbeat, positive day creating sacred space in this house: )

Continued thanks for the kick start, my friend.

Hear! Hear! For uncluttered, sunny spaces: )

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Re: Having a blue day
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2011, 10:55:19 AM »
Lighter, what you said rings so true.  I see people all around me who haven't dealt with their pain and they bounce from one thing to another, like you say.  I have a friend who is in so much debt she might lose her house, because she shops rather than dealing with things.  I have several friends who are in their forties and now facing the prospect of never having the children they want because they've gone from one non-commital bloke to another, rather than look at why they keep going for the wrong kind.  And my mum - I don't feel angry at her any more?  I see a sad, scared, lonely woman who attacked outwardly rather than looking in and who's pushed away everyone who may have been healthy enough to actually do her some good.  I see someone who gets through the day in a drunken haze because sobriety - and reality - are just to painful for her.  And the thought of ending up like that - and of having my son view me with the same sort of disturbed pity that I view my mum with - is even scarier than dealing with this.

I'm glad you got clearing too!  My house feels so much better.  I've still bits and pieces to do and finish off but it's already so much nicer than it was, and I feel like it's okay to take a break and do nothing for a while, whereas in the past I always felt like I ought to be doing something.  It's helped me so much.

P, it does feel like something being removed.  I know it sounds crazy but I swear my belly is smaller?  I know it sounds mad but I feel slimmer and less rounded, like something's been lifted out.  I am tucked up in bed.  It's lovely and warm.  My boy is at his club and I am going to nap for a while and take it easy.  Thank you so much to both of you xxxxx