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sunblue

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N and Life's Empty Cup
« on: May 29, 2011, 01:22:57 PM »
Oprah, a self-proclaimed champion of "live your best life" ended her 25-year talk show host reign last week with what I saw as a heartfelt and sincere lesson in living.  While her life was admittedly filled with unbelievable blessings, making it sometimes hard to identify with her, she offered some good advice.  In a recent interview, she noted that those individuals who are lucky enough to have been raised in families where they have been cherished and loved have the distinct advantage of starting off life with their "cup already full."  The rest of us...those raised in dysfunction and pain....must spend the rest of our lives figuring out how to fill that cup.

I so identified with that comment.  For those of raised by Ns, we struggle through out lives to fill our cups.  But we must do so with the realization that our own families will not be a part of the process or indeed, will not have a place in that cup, at all.  I have struggled with that concept and a one which I believe mirrors the process----which is to let go of hope.  So often, we talk of hope in terms of a very positive trait....and it is or can be.  But not being able to let go of hope, where there is none, can also be detrimental to our experience.

You would think after years of living with or raised by an N, that you would finally "get it" and let go of the hope....but sometimes hope is eternal.  I was faced with this reality recently in my own N family situation.  After spending 7 months caring for my ailing dad, literally sleeping on a hospital chair next to his bed every night and then going to work, chasing after nurses at 4 in the morning to get the pain meds he needed, I have found that now that he is home recovering, he has reverted back to his original self as a co-N.  He and my N mom have reverted back to spending all their time, attention and effort on the Golden Child N sibling.  And even though my dad beseeched me to light candles for him and pray for him while he was ill (which I did without being asked of course), he has yet to return to church.  My N mom, who always made a big deal to everyone she met about how she never missed a Sunday's mass---has refused to go to church since my dad became ill.  She is "punishing" God, I guess, for putting HER through the last few months.  As a consequence, my dad just goes along with her.  It is just one example of how he has reverted to his old co-N self.  I suppose I assumed that having come so close to death, that he would have learned a lesson about what is really important in life, perhaps reflected on how poorly he treated my brother and I and tried to make amends.  But he did not and will not. 

I realized that as my brother predicted, they just used me during those few months.  Unlike my brother, I don't regret that I cared for my dad in the complete way I did.  I felt it was the right thing to do and I know I would not have wanted to be left alone in a hospital or rehab facility when I was sick and in pain.  The ironic thing is I know when my time comes, that is exactly the position I will be in for there will be no one to hold my hand.  But, nevertheless, it is painful and humiliating to realize that it meant nothing in the long run.  As hard as it is, sometimes it's really essential to let go of hope.  I am now in that space, facing that and the aloneness that comes with it.  I am trying to console myself in thinking that it is they who are the sick ones, not me....but I'm wondering if that's just wishful thinking on my part?  When you grow up without a voice, with no validation, it is sometimes hard to distinguish what is normal and what is not.

Even Oprah, who has so much, who has experienced so many blessings, still ended her run with a monologue that talking about growing up a "lonely, little girl" with not a lot of love.  She, of course, was able to fill her cup with lots of love from others, a small, tight circle that acted as a surrogate family as well as a world-wide audience that loved her.  But still, that hole in your heart left by an unloving biological family, never seems to go away.

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 01:48:26 PM »
Sad, true, and lovely post, Sunblue.

Thanks,

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 02:01:16 PM »
I agree with you completely, Sun.  There's an emptiness in me that I have tried to fill, over the years, with 'pretend' love - ignoring bad treatment and abuse and calling it love, drink, drugs, long hours at work, endless numbers of men, shopping, food, drama and crisis, material possessions and probably other things that I'm not aware of, but nothing has ever filled that hole for me.

I suppose once you get to a point where you realise that the other person won't change and maybe that you won't ever feel complete that must be a turning point?  I don't know.  I am starting to realise now that I can't fill this hole with things, or even other people.  I suppose it's a bit like finally accepting something is missing, always has been, always will be.  I do agree that life must be much easier if you come from a nice family, because you can focus so much on doing positive things rather than negative ones (by negative I mean trying to escape the hurt and the pain, rather than being able to focus on doing things just because you like them and you want to).

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 07:52:05 AM »
((((((((((((((((((SunBlue)))))))))))))))

What you said reminds me of a quote from John Bradshaw of:  "a hole in your soul".

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 07:02:43 PM »
I agree with Bones.

Question is does that hole ever get filled or healed with something meaningful and worthwhile? I'm tired of the struggle in my life and just want to get on with a more normal life. Does it ever get substantially better or will it be more of the same?
 Anyone know?

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2011, 07:29:28 AM »
It does get better Ales...

it's like the erosion of mountains sometimes; and sometimes there are landslides.
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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2011, 09:58:57 PM »
I want to lovingly disagree with you, Sun, and you too, Richard...

just on this word "never" --
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that hole in your heart left by an unloving biological family, never seems to go away.

If I could edit the universe (ain't stopped trying yet), I would like this to say:

...that hole in your heart left by an unloving biological family, takes such a long time to go away...

I just will not yield to this "never". (I DO recommend giving up hope, or expectation, with families that CANNOT love you back. Absolutely. But meanwhile, there are quite a few human beings around you...somewhere, if you are determined, you can create such beauty in a loving circle of PHamily...I believe that hole CAN heal. Maybe when you're 50, or 55, or 62, or 79...but when you choose "never", you choose despair. (Which is ob the debbil... have felt it myself many times.)

The reason I reject "never heals" is:

Because I have met people who come from cruelty and fight for justice with light in their eyes in a sea of siblings.
People who have been neglected and determinedly heal themselves and move past permanent grief.
People who were abused many years ago and are now living wells of compassion and wisdom and leadership, so engaged by altruism that personal peace just sneaks up on them...(and they find it secondary but not out of despair, they've just shifted their centers of gravity so the self is no longer the very center).

I think weeping and sighing and notes of sadness are a sign of keen hearing. But so is speaking, even the softest truths, and so is singing.

But if you FIGHT the idea of being a permanent lost child by deciding you DO have a right to set your sights on creating genuine happiness--by loving YOURSELF first, at a functional healing level, with the support of some serious spiritual practice (even if this means years of it)...I believe that hole in the heart really can close, and then the circle of yourself becomes oceanic and embraces so much life that no permanent grief can survive it.

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(Well, duh, I just re-read your post and realize you said "never seems to" heal, which is just a true and fair description of the feeling you're in. Hold onto that "seems" because it is an impermanent as everything else, including your feelings of being lost or unloved...)
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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 08:18:30 PM »
Sunblue,

"Hope."  A 4-letter word for me.

I am so where you are right now.  I read your post and couldn't believe how you spoke the words I so feel.  Thank you for that. 

This ideal of hope and when it actually dies, terrifies me.  I feel like I will die along with "Hope."  I fear that I will become heartless and empty.  I struggle with Hope everyday.  I sometimes hate it because the idea of Hope hurts me so much.

Why do we struggle with the "getting it" part?  I believe because of Hope.  Even the tiniest morsel of Hope keeps things lingering and perhaps, therefore, more painful to watch and experience.  It's like, shoot the darn horse already!  But we don't for some reason. 

I, too, watched the Oprah show and digested her words. 

I think my cup is full of false hopes and I need to fill it with "real" ones.  I'm even scared to write that.  I'm working on this.

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Re: N and Life's Empty Cup
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 09:36:42 PM »
I have to second what Bearwithme is saying.

Lingering hope is painful. It becomes harder and harder to hold out for something you work or wish for (sometimes both). For me, it sometimes feels like I am wading at the shore hoping my wave will come in and take me out to the ocean. Instead, it stops short of my feet, but takes the other swimmers and waders, even the ones who've come after me. So, there I stand, with each incoming wave, hoping I will be next, but always left high and dry.