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2224Jessica

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waiting for my Nmum's next trick
« on: January 15, 2006, 09:52:09 PM »
Hello every one,
My mums narcissistic as I've written in my other posts. She arrives today at my sisters house and it's been about 2 weeks since I told my enabler dad by email that I'm sick of the facade and keeping up appearances and them not recognisng the hell they put us through... Mum tried sweet talking my husband to get me in line which backfired big time on her. Then my dad tried to get me and my kids to spend the weekend at their place but I said no because it's pointless if they don't accept the reality. My sister who I'm very close to understands and supports my view and is very curious at my strong stance to get on with my life without my parents. She says she will take what she can get from them. She says that she would rather have selfish crap parents than none. I support her desision and have chosen that I am doing what is best for myself, my kids and my hubby. I haven't asked any of my siblings to join me as I think that it's a personal desion and an individual journey that I chose for myself.  She asked me what should she say if they asked her if they should come over to see me. I said to her, "why do you feel you have to be in the middle, they know my number, they know my address." I told her that maybe she should just say. " Why don't you ask them?" She says that she doesn't mention me in conversation and she says that mum tries to probe...
My sister and I have decided that our friendship isn't going to be affected because of our individual relationships with our parents.
I am afraid what my mums next move is. I'm a bit anxious because I don't know how I would be able to deal with her face to face now that I have seen the light of what she is. I feel it's a lose lose situation. I can never get her to love me and care for me and she can never get me back in line to keep up the image of a perfect family... I am getting to the point that I can live with the fact that she will never care and love me but I don't know when she will give up trying to get me in line... She loves a drama too... Is the best thing to do is just give her no response but to act as if she is irelevant in my life and she doesn't exist. Give her nothing at all. Will she eventually leave me alone???

Jessica

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Re: waiting for my Nmum's next trick
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2006, 11:24:06 PM »
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I am afraid what my mums next move is. I'm a bit anxious because I don't know how I would be able to deal with her face to face now that I have seen the light of what she is.
Hi Jessica,
now that you know your mother is capable of anything, you wonder what is coming next.  But she is the one who has been exposed, so she is the one with more to lose by confronting you.  She is probably wondering what you will do next!  Will you be able to convince siblings to go away too?  See?  She has more risk than you.
You did the right thing and you know it. Just stick with it and play by ear.  Will her attacks increase?  Get more nasty?  Likely. But it will never be as bad as before. It is completely different now that you see the light.  Her kryptonite no longer works.  You are still superwoman.  You go girl.
Plucky


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Re: waiting for my Nmum's next trick
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2006, 11:15:49 AM »
I have been reading Vaknin's book 'Malignant Self Love' partly to help me to figure out how to divorce an N friend who has wanted to entangle me since he met me (because I have something he wants, in skills). When I first met him I gave him the adulation he craves, and I don't give that anymore, but I needed to cut off his expectation of getting my free services (in exchange for him supposedly making me very wealthy at some future date: uh-huh). Anyhow, I was pretty scared on just how to break it off and have been reading the book on N's specifically to help me figure out the best method of divorcing him.

This is what I have gleaned. I have used it, and it seems to have been working great!

1) Remember that all you are to the N is "Narcissistic Supply." This could be stuff like admiration, adulation, praise, etc. -- or it can be FEAR. Both fear and adulation are things the N feed off of.

2) One thing the N cannot feed off of is indifference. If they can't get a rise out of you, it confuses them to a degree that they just don't even know which end is up. But one thing is for sure: once you are indifferent, you are not giving them Narcissistic Supply anymroe, and they will lose interest (unless perhaps you have something of monetary value that they want to get their hands on -- but that is a subject I don't know much about).

The main thing that has worked for me both when divorcing my N mother 10 years ago and this month when divorcing the N ex-near-boyfriend who wanted to keep me in his supply for life just this month is this: to make the decision, make the decision known to the N as concisely and firmly and with as much finality as possible, and then to give it NO MORE ENERGY. For instance, when I talk to my half-sister and she mentions our N mother, about the most I ever respond is, "Oh." I do not ask questions about my N mother, do not ask or wonder about how she is feeling or what she is doing, etc. I say, "Oh" and change the subject. My half-sister wishes she didn't have to deal with our N mother but is very devoted to her father and since he lives with our N mom she is a part of her life. There is no doubt in my mind that she too would divorce our N mom if her father was not there. So, she does not in any way try to "patch things up" between us. She totally respects my decision and is not doubt not a little envious.

With the recent divorce of the N friend, I let him know that I could not work with him and feel that his affect on my life could only be unhealthy. He emailed me and told me how I would regret it someday having passed up the opportunity to work with someone so "spiritually advanced." I just didn't write back. It is so good. Before, it was harder to make plans for myself, even the next months, when I used to know that he expected such-and-such of me, which would drain me mentally, emotionally and timewise if not financially. It was always there, just making all future plans a little foggier and uncertain. Now that I have made this clean break, I find that I have a clear calendar before me and I am reclaiming old dreams that had all but died before. I am re-finding what *I* want to do with my life.

Am I more isolated? Yes, in a way, if you mean do I have more hours alone time. But the main friends and associates I have are such positive influences in my life, and I feel the world is my blank canvas, and now I can paint. ;)


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Re: waiting for my Nmum's next trick
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2006, 12:59:30 PM »
Great insight tejaspear

Jessica, you may also want to get Toxic Parents like DavidP and myself have...  It is very good at explaining all the ways one can be "enmeshed" with N. parents.

Just because you're not talking to them doesn't mean they aren't affecting your health and that you are not enmeshed.  :(

Ooooh.  That was a hard one for me to learn.

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