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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #660 on: July 08, 2007, 09:15:32 PM »
Bones,
I admire you for documenting everything steadily and you know what, you never know...

If you keep your cool and keep pages and pages as clearly and logically as you've just
explained it here, and present it very matter-of-factly EVEN IF your job is wiped out,
perhaps someone in management would say to herself/himself:

Hmmm. This employee has obviously worked very hard in a trying situation, yet has
presented me with a clear, neat summary that has contributed to our assessment of
the situation. This person could be an asset in Program X.

Know what I mean? I think a LOT of the time, being assertive plus helpful (even
when you're gritting your teeth) and communicating very thoroughly, can sometimes
turn into a positive reference, a referral to an even better option, whatever.

So if the worst-case happens, don't give up! Ask yourself, okay, now who can I
write to with my intelligent and very professional summary of various issues I've
observed, and suggest solutions?

See where I'm going with this? With written correspondence that shows both effort,
conscientiousness, and professional, you can create a path for yourself sometimes,
even when one doesn't appear to be open.

This strategy has paid off for me in many jobs. I presented with interest, a supportive
attitude, and displayed my brain.

You have a fine one, Bones. I'd love to see you strategize and network for yourself
in that way.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #661 on: July 09, 2007, 08:59:04 AM »
Yep, unemployment is state by state regulated, not federally standardized at all.

It never ceases to amaze me just how many ways 'they' can find to kick people when they are down.

That situation with your certification sucks big time. I am flabbergasted. Is there any way - ugh, I hate even to think of it - that you can do any 'volunteer' hours in another setting and have them, at least, count? As if you weren't doing enough already. Talk about adding insult to injury.

this stinks, Bones.




Yes, it does suck...big time.

I just found out this morning that I just got screwed another way.

I had applied for a state job before I was hired by this company.  A state representative of the department I applied to attempted to call me at work.  However, because the caller refused to divulge the confidential nature of the call to the administrative assistant, I NEVER got the message (the administrative assistant trashed the message instead of giving it to me) and, as a result, I lost the opportunity to interview for a job with the state!  Now THAT really pisses me off!  (For all the secretary knew, it could have been my doctor, counselor, etc. calling me about any kind of confidential matter which is still NONE of her business!  If I want her to know my confidential stuff, I would tell her.  She has NO business sticking her nose where it does NOT concern her!  And the boss doesn't care what she does!)  SH%T!

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #662 on: July 09, 2007, 09:01:54 AM »
Bones,
I admire you for documenting everything steadily and you know what, you never know...

If you keep your cool and keep pages and pages as clearly and logically as you've just
explained it here, and present it very matter-of-factly EVEN IF your job is wiped out,
perhaps someone in management would say to herself/himself:

Hmmm. This employee has obviously worked very hard in a trying situation, yet has
presented me with a clear, neat summary that has contributed to our assessment of
the situation. This person could be an asset in Program X.

Know what I mean? I think a LOT of the time, being assertive plus helpful (even
when you're gritting your teeth) and communicating very thoroughly, can sometimes
turn into a positive reference, a referral to an even better option, whatever.

So if the worst-case happens, don't give up! Ask yourself, okay, now who can I
write to with my intelligent and very professional summary of various issues I've
observed, and suggest solutions?

See where I'm going with this? With written correspondence that shows both effort,
conscientiousness, and professional, you can create a path for yourself sometimes,
even when one doesn't appear to be open.

This strategy has paid off for me in many jobs. I presented with interest, a supportive
attitude, and displayed my brain.

You have a fine one, Bones. I'd love to see you strategize and network for yourself
in that way.

hugs
Hops

Thanks, Hops!

I'm feeling very angry this morning so it's hard to think straight!

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #663 on: July 09, 2007, 01:08:57 PM »
Bones, I wish that. I had something to say that would help. I can  just give you a cyberspace hug.
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« Reply #664 on: July 09, 2007, 05:02:30 PM »
Oh Bones, I don't blame you.
What a wretched development.

Here's an opportunity that can change how you react to everything for the rest of your life.   :)

1. You have ONE HOUR.
    Either get in the car and drive to an isolated place if accessible and sit there and BELLOW OUT YOUR FURY until youu can't sum up one more squeak.

    Or, when you will be alone at home, clear the bedroom, and make up the bed with fresh sheets and make it.
    Now go get a firm pillow you can hoist.
    Beat on that bed while speaking and narrating and explaing and describing what you're angry about until you      cannot think of ONE MORE WORD to say about it.

2. Write a summary letter with your great regret that you missed the opportunity to interview for this position which you were very interested in. Explain that an administrative assistant failed to give you the message and you had no idea they had contacted you. Ask, whether or not there is a position open currently, whether they be willing to allow you to come and talk to them about their needs. You would be very interested in simply learning about what position might be open there at some future time, and would be very grateful for 20 minutes of their time, at their convenience.
And thank them sincerely for their consideration. Offer a new email address and phone number and assure them that any message they send or leave will be replied to promptly.

Make this a Registered MAILED letter, not an email. Enclose your resume.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #665 on: July 09, 2007, 11:04:18 PM »
Bones, I wish that. I had something to say that would help. I can  just give you a cyberspace hug.
 (((((((((((((((((((((((( Bones))))))))))))))))))))))))))))                 Love  Ami

Thanks, Ami.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #666 on: July 09, 2007, 11:09:48 PM »
Oh Bones, I don't blame you.
What a wretched development.

Here's an opportunity that can change how you react to everything for the rest of your life.   :)

1. You have ONE HOUR.
    Either get in the car and drive to an isolated place if accessible and sit there and BELLOW OUT YOUR FURY until youu can't sum up one more squeak.

    Or, when you will be alone at home, clear the bedroom, and make up the bed with fresh sheets and make it.
    Now go get a firm pillow you can hoist.
    Beat on that bed while speaking and narrating and explaing and describing what you're angry about until you      cannot think of ONE MORE WORD to say about it.

2. Write a summary letter with your great regret that you missed the opportunity to interview for this position which you were very interested in. Explain that an administrative assistant failed to give you the message and you had no idea they had contacted you. Ask, whether or not there is a position open currently, whether they be willing to allow you to come and talk to them about their needs. You would be very interested in simply learning about what position might be open there at some future time, and would be very grateful for 20 minutes of their time, at their convenience.
And thank them sincerely for their consideration. Offer a new email address and phone number and assure them that any message they send or leave will be replied to promptly.

Make this a Registered MAILED letter, not an email. Enclose your resume.

love
Hops

Thanks, Hops.

I'm working on that now.

I also got word from the Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene that until at least one of my supervisors becomes Maryland Board-approved to oversee trainees, I am NOT supposed to be working as a trainee nor am I supposed to be working with clients until the supervisors get their status straightened out with Maryland.  It appears that until someone, in the company's chain of command, gets themselves straight with the state of Maryland, I'm working illegally.  What a mess!

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #667 on: July 09, 2007, 11:16:15 PM »
Link is live, I just checked it.
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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #668 on: July 10, 2007, 08:44:54 PM »
Bones, if the state government hires as slowly as the Federal government does, you may not have lost the opportunity yet. I know someone who has been waiting for two months to hear back on a job application he sent to a Federal agency and this is apparently pretty much standard.

The Feds have a website, do you know if the state does? Wait, let me see.

yes yes they do here it is, check the sidebar at the right, the job might still be unfilled! I hope this link works, it's folded up like an accordion in the quick reply panel.

http://www.dbm.maryland.gov/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&cached=true&parentname=MyPage&parentid=0&in_hi_userid=1333&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=225&PageID=0&portal=dbm

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My God, what a snake pit you work in. ((((((((((Bones))))))))))
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Thanks, Stormy.

That's how I was able to apply for the job in the first place.  I was hoping to get an interview until the office snake sabotaged that.   :x  Now with this new information, from the Maryland Board, about the staffing certification/licensure issues, I'm not sure what to do.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #669 on: July 11, 2007, 09:21:06 PM »
Today, I learn that my supervisor is quitting as of August 3rd.

I also learned that several other staff members are neither certified nor licensed to work as Addiction Counselors.

When I asked the Maryland Board for advice about what I should do or say to my bosses concerning my being in "Trainee Limbo", the response I received from the Board is that the facility will be investigated.  It should be interesting to see what happens next, even if it means losing this job as well.  I know that I inadvertently opened a "can of worms" when I attempted to resolve my own trainee status.  At the same time, it is also a matter of "bite me now or bite me later" because if I didn't address this now, it could seriously hurt my chances of becoming certified or licensed later.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #670 on: July 12, 2007, 01:36:40 AM »
You should be protected, Bones.

Are you a whistleblower?

I wonder if you were to lose your job in future, whether you'd have a grievance claim for retalition?

I'm not sure, but this is starting to sound like:
a) something a good reporter at the Baltimore Sun should be contacted about
b) something you might want to touch base with an attorney about

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #671 on: July 12, 2007, 06:36:07 AM »
You should be protected, Bones.

Are you a whistleblower?

I wonder if you were to lose your job in future, whether you'd have a grievance claim for retalition?

I'm not sure, but this is starting to sound like:
a) something a good reporter at the Baltimore Sun should be contacted about
b) something you might want to touch base with an attorney about

Hops

The ironic thing is that I did not originally intend to become a whistleblower.  All I did was ask a LOT of tough questions to my soon-to-be-ex supervisor, then ask MORE tough  questions to the Maryland Board of Professional Counselors and Therapists based on prior experiences.  Who knew that this current place of employment was operating illegally?

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #672 on: July 12, 2007, 08:11:42 AM »
it seems like a LOT of things to handle. I know that you do not "need" this on top of everything else.
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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #673 on: July 12, 2007, 08:29:10 AM »
it seems like a LOT of things to handle. I know that you do not "need" this on top of everything else.
  I am sorry,my friend                               Love   Ami
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Thanks, Ami.

I'm wondering if everything is going to be coming to a head on August 1st.  That's the date an auditor had already been scheduled to arrive to inspect clients' files to see if they are compliant with COMAR Regs.  The Auditor might be coming from the same office that I have been communicating with regarding my CIT dilemma.

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Re: Lost My Job and Doubting Myself
« Reply #674 on: July 12, 2007, 10:18:57 AM »
I believe you, Bones.
I think you have been single-minded about wanting to contribute in your field and it was that determination that propelled you into "questioning the system"--

which, after all, is not unpatriotic!

It wasn't personal, and imo it leaves you in a good light. You dot the i's and cross the t's, and you're trying for entry.

I hope they take note of that.

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