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Ami

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Just Needed to Share
« on: October 29, 2007, 08:33:11 PM »
I feel like I am in the last stage of denial about my M.I faced the last thing. I just wanted to write about it. It is that my M is "really" crazy. I have stayed sick-emotionally and physically b/c I did not want to face it.I thought that I could not go on and live on my own if I faced it.I felt like I would have no one to be there for me. So,I lied to myself and I took on ALL the bad qualities  so I could be in HER reality( where she is good). Now, I see it. She is really crazy .
  If I face it,I can be free. However,I have no one who cares for me.I have no soft place to fall(even though I only had it in fantasy before.)
  I feel so afraid and alone. I stayed in this fantasy( of a sane mother and an insane me) so I would not have to face this ''aloneness".
 I want to have s/one who can help me and guide me. I never had s/one who would be there for me. I always had to watch my back. I always had to be "careful". I just don't want to face that my own M does not care for me the way that a cat would even care for her babies.
  I ,simply, don't want to face it.
  I see that if I died or thrived, I could never make a dent in her craziness. I tried to do everything-- even twist myself in to thinking that I was too bad to even nurture myself with food. Then,it all comes down to it didn't matter WHAT I did. All she wants is to be FIRST-- in everything -even who has the better dog.
  i took on the "Role' as Amber said to try to save her and to try to have a M for myself.I twisted myself every which way   to try to make her be normal. All she wanted then and all she wants now is to be ONE better than me.
  I just could cry and cry at trying to face this. I tell myself that people have to face disabilities  like blindness etc and they just have to FACE them .I guess that I just have to FACE it and try to find a "self" in here. Now, at this stage in life, I have to find the identity I threw away to try to make her reality "real"
  I just needed to not feel alone tonight. Thanks for being there, dear friends              Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Just Needed to Share
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 09:18:48 PM »
(((((((((((((((((Ami))))))))))))))

I agree so much. Am detoxing and then will write back.
Love, Beth
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 10:50:52 PM »
Ami,

I think that has been the hardest thing for me to comprehend, that they(N's) just don't think or feel like we do. I keep trying to make sense of things as if I would have felt that way, but it's not going to happen. I hope you are feeling better and taking care of you. I also have been feeling so alone, but I guess in reality we always were, just didn't face it.

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 12:25:03 AM »
It is devastating to truly accept, Ami.
But ultimately, reality is your friend.

I think maybe a new thought...do you think as much as excavating a core self, you may also want to be adding self? New layers? From new people?

You deserve support. Connection in real life too, new relationships to build on trust and sharing.

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 07:18:45 AM »
That's a sweet thought, Hops... and true, I believe. I think my outer layers might be a bit tougher now. I think I am like an artichoke - soft and sweet on the inside - lol.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 10:28:01 AM »
I am at the last stage of the denial process. I look back and see HOW sick I was. I was always "fighting' with two "forces" inside myself. One force wanted to destroy me and the other wanted me to live. The one who wanted to destroy me was winning. I took on my M's 'ghosts" in order to save her and to have the M that I wanted .I took all the 'badness" on me so I could still live in her reality.I HAD to or else I could not have her as a mother. I had to become crazy or she had to go. There was not a middle ground. She was too far gone to make peace with her and be O.K. in myself. So, I destroyed myself so I could  take all the pain from her and "have" her.I had convinced myself that I could not live without her.
  Also, if I lived in her world,one day, she would come and rescue me. Then,I would have the happy ending that I wanted. So, I was sinking in to a fantasy world. I didn't trust shrinks so I just kept forcing myself to "hang on" to my mental health.
  I look back and see how I was always trying to punish myself and take joy away from myself  b/c I needed to "prove" that her reality was "right". (SHE was good and I had a mother who loved me.) I was BAD. I kept getting "worse" so  she could be the good one. She told me that SHE was number ONE.I became the stepped on one. I lived out this life.I could not do anything that I loved like music. That was part of my punishment for being the 'bad' one. The more I could punish myself,the more she could be the "good "one and the world would make "sense".
  I 'knew' that I was on the verge before I found the board. I see how close I was to the edge.I feel very close to "real" now.
  Bean said that she missed "herself". That is what I missed ,too---myself..                        Love    Ami

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 12:07:42 PM »
Thanks Amber,
  There is a lot to ponder in your post.I am getting the urge to go back to my support group.I guess that I differ with many people on the board in a certain way.
  I think that you have to have your own core first. Then, you can go out in the world and have friends and activities. If Lupita doesn't mind my using her story ,but she is an example of s/one who goes out in to the world with the same patterns and things don't work works.
  I did not have that degree of pain..However, my relationships were all codependent(probably from me) and they hurt. So, I know that the inner has to be healed first before the "outer world " will work. That is my experience ,anyway. Maybe you were not as bad as I was Hops .I don't think that you were.
  So, my inner healing  is almost "there." I am not worried  about the outer b/c I have lots of opportunities to do things and go places. That was NOT my problem. My problem was that the "old" me ruined everything.
 I have the desire to play the piano and guitar and do to other things.
  My insides are the hard part for me,not finding activities or interests. I have so many things right outside  my door when I am ready.                       Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 12:35:42 PM »
I have just a few thoughts here......

First,  I am wondering if that fear that you would be nothing without your Mother was a fear planted by her.  Perhaps she needed you to feel that way so her controlling world would work.  You are someone without her....inspite of her.....independent of her....and always have been whether either of you acknowledged that or not.  That is a fixed truth.  No matter or might of manipulation can change it.  The sky is blue.  Gravity happens.  Water is wet.  Ami IS.  It is an irrefutable fact. 

Next, you have been hanging onto that belief for dear life.  What if you let go of it?   What will really happen?  Will you fall?  I picture it like you are hanging from the monkey bars for dear life.  To everybody else the fall is only a few inches but to you it feels like falling into a canyon!  But the truth is, that it is only a few inches.  You are where you have always been.  You and the "home of you" is right where you are.  So, if you can get ahold of the faith in that, then what is holding you back from walking straight into that fear with all the gumption God gave you.....and letling go of it.  Indiana Jones and the last Crusade.  The leap of faith at the end of the movie???  Remember?  Looked like a canyon, but there WAS a path!!  And his foot found it....but only after he took the step!  Maybe you could let go of it for a day.  And see what life would be like without this little grouping of thoughts.

I have no one.  No soft place to fall.

AH, I know this painful thought.  I am well aquainted with it.  Before I met you all, I was pretty sure I was the author of it. :::wink:::  This one is a lie too.  You know that.  Your mind knows it but your heart has so much evidence to the contrary.  This is where faith in God and self really matters.  Its the same stuff you tell me and others.  But now it is time for your heart to truly walk into the reality of it.  If you were the only person on the face of this earth, He would still send His son to save you!  He is there.  And you know that too.  His comfort is so much better than any comfort you are getting from hanging on to this lie.  And aren't your arms tired and stretched from holding onto that bar??? 

You are not alone....... because you have YOU!  Your greatest friend.  The person who knows the pain better than any other human.  YOU!  Don't worry so much about a soft place to fall because that place is in you!   Falling from this one is more like falling UP into the strength of who you are.

You are not alone because Angels are with you.  God has hosts with him!!.  They serve and support us.  Remember the old testament Elisha story.  The armies are coming and it appears that they have no defense and then the vision is opened into heaven and their are hosts and hosts of armies at their rear.

"And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots.  And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?  And he (Elisha) answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than be with them.  And Elijah prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see.  And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man an he saw: and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha."  (2 kings 6:15-17, kjv)

So, when we say or feel that we are alone.....we are so so wrong!!  Isn't it cool, how wrong we really are???

Much love to you,  Ami.  You can let go.  It is ok.  You are ok already.  You will be ok when you finally find that you are ready to lay it down.

Love,

Poppy




Ami

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Re: Just Needed to Share
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 12:38:41 PM »
Dear Poppy.
  Thank you so much. There is so much to study and ponder in your post.            Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 03:27:46 PM »
Poppy, how beautiful:

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You are not alone....... because you have YOU!  Your greatest friend.  The person who knows the pain better than any other human.  YOU!  Don't worry so much about a soft place to fall because that place is in you!   Falling from this one is more like falling UP into the strength of who you are.

I couldn't relate to the first part but this part was so helpful. Thank you.

Falling up,
Hops
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