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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2010, 11:22:05 AM »
Hey, that was for Lupita, (((Izzz)))...our posts must've "crossed in the mail.."

Lupita, what I think I respond to the most is the panic in your posts. This man wasn't going to reassure you enough for you to feel safe in a relationship with him. (I think the tango obsession might have defeated me too.)

The other part, though, is that I think your challenge is to learn how to soothe yourself. To know that you do have choices, you can tolerate discomfort, things always change, and noone but your mother is your mother.

I was glad to hear you explain that you DIDN'T WANT to be so consumed with dance as he was. That was really important to say, I think. Maybe you were so eager to be in love that you were giving up too much of who you really are?

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Hops

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2010, 12:53:35 PM »
Izzy
 Your post was for me, too. You didn't know that but it was! Thank you .                      Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2010, 02:08:22 PM »
Thanks Ami,

Did I say something that helped? I'm glad!

Yes Lupita

I agree with Hops, about the panic. I was in a panic at age 22 becasue even my younger sister was married then, as well as my school gal pals, and I 'had to hurry'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There ought not have been a hurry. The sister, next oldest to me, married because her gal pals were married, so I see that she must have been panicing too. They divorced!
"The joy of love lasts such a short time, but the pain of love lasts one's whole life"

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2010, 02:59:32 PM »
Hey LupitaL

You sure asked yourself many questions about "why" you choose the men you choose.

When you were dating a man who let you push him around, who asked you to lead.....

you were repelled by him.

It sure would be more interesting to have  bad boy, be a good boy, bc you asked though, wouldn't it?

Maybe that's your struggle?

To either make peace with, or tame, someone who's behavior harms you.

You seem to be craving peace right now.

That's my vote.

Mo2

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2010, 07:58:48 PM »
I remember my son went to sleep crying in his crib. I was exhausted after working so hard without help of his father. I could not console him. He cried until he fell asleep. I am doing the same today. How life is.
God bless my child. he is my hero.
I guess I deserve wha happens to me.

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« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2010, 10:11:30 PM »
Lupita,

I wonder if you could look at this as, not something that happened to you, but rather something (or someone,actually) that you embraced with your whole heart and then chose to separate from because he wasnt good for you.  It is still painful, and of course you are crying tonight.  You shared some very intimate moments and that cant be done without having your heart hurt when it is over. 

But, in all of this, I see you as less of a victim as I do a strong woman who chose a man and then realized that he wasnt a good choice for you.  And then you acted on that realization.  You did what was best for both of you.

I dont know for sure, but if your friend was dancing cheek-to-cheek simply because that's the way the dance is done, then she may feel offended that you are seeing a betrayal in that.  That may be why she wants an apology.  She may (and I dont know, I am just guessing) not be the kind of person who tries to steal boyfriends and it may be upsetting to her for you to think so.  That may be what is at the root of the demand for an apology.  You will have to decide what you can do about that.

I think it is very insightful for you to continue to tie your feelings about your boyfriends behavior to your feelings about your mother's behavior.  When you have gotten through the fresh grief of this loss, I hope you will examine the connection between the two.  I think  that some of your feelings of victimization may be tied to your relationship with your mother--where you truly were a victim.  In the relationship you just ended, do remember that it is not the fact that you were not able to change his mind that made you a victim.  If you had not expressed your feelings, or if you had not been honest with yourself that this was not workable, or if he in some way deceived you about his actions--those might have cast you in the position of victim. 

Dear Lupita, be gentle with yourself while you mourn. 

CB
When they are older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her way -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails.  Elizabeth Edwards 2010

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2010, 02:34:14 AM »
thanks hops. iz, ami and mo2.
thank you for being my friends.

CB you are amazing.

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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2010, 10:29:22 AM »
I dont know for sure, but if your friend was dancing cheek-to-cheek simply because that's the way the dance is done, then she may feel offended that you are seeing a betrayal in that.  That may be why she wants an apology.  She may (and I dont know, I am just guessing) not be the kind of person who tries to steal boyfriends and it may be upsetting to her for you to think so.  That may be what is at the root of the demand for an apology.  You will have to decide what you can do about that.


THIS is the key, IMO.
CB's words  are the way to follow.
Go step by step  if you can . Come here for advice
You HAVE to try to separate the past from the present.
We MUST when we have an N parent or else they become one huge, horrible big soup! 
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Help me discern.
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2010, 10:30:30 AM »
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I dont know for sure, but if your friend was dancing cheek-to-cheek simply because that's the way the dance is done, then she may feel offended that you are seeing a betrayal in that.  That may be why she wants an apology.  She may (and I dont know, I am just guessing) not be the kind of person who tries to steal boyfriends and it may be upsetting to her for you to think so.  That may be what is at the root of the demand for an apology.  You will have to decide what you can do about that.


THIS is the key, IMO.
CB's words  are the way to follow.
Go step by step  if you can . Come here for advice
You HAVE to try to separate the past from the present.
We MUST when we have an N parent or else they become one huge, horrible big soup! 
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung