PD's appeal of custody and visitation

[lighter]

is in.

It's interesting they're basically accusing the trial Judge of being biased, and obstructionist....

of doing what they, themselves, have done, in other words.

It never ceases to amaze me.....

all the loud, thrashing about of pd's when they harm other people, then demand sympathy for themselves.

::shaking head::

And repeating every untrue statement they ever made, over and over again.

::crossing eyes::

I've determined that filing complaints against opposing counsel, and the witness they tampered with during the course of the trial, has zero downside at this juncture.  Perhaps even an upside.

Opposing counsel will be hiring his own attorney to defend himself, and that seems right.   ::nod::
Lighter

[Izzy_*now*]

I'm thinking you are sounding on the upside, but first, What is "pd"? --not Police Dept? It was in another post of yours and I should have asked then.

Maybe I will understand better.

Izzy

[lighter]

Izzy... pd is short for someone with a personality disorder.

I never know who has which pd, so I don't refer to them as N's anymore.

Lighter

[Twoapenny]

Oh, Lighter.  What happens now, in practical terms?  Do you have to go back to court yourself or is this done without you needing to be there.  Any ideas how long for a judge to reach a decision?  Do they just look at whether the previous judge followed the appropriate procedures etc or do they look at the entire case again.

What an absolute pain they are.  Is this the last appeal they can do or is there another if they lose this one as well?

I understand completely what you mean about the way they behave - absolutely no sense of self awareness or relative normality as seen by other people.

I am crossing my fingers that you don't have to do too much this time? xx

[lighter]

Tupp:

No more court, we just respond to the pd's brief with our own, then the appellate court rules.

We anticipate the Order will stand.

It's a devastating Order against the pd's,btw.  And peppered with the pd's own words, and admitted actions.  Ouch.

In fact, the truth is so unpleasant, the trial judge is being accused of being biased, and having a prejudice against the pd's.

Doc G, I'm reminded of how difficult it is to tell the unvarnished truth about toxic pd's, and not find yourself being punished for it.

Lighter
 

[lighter]

Oh, Lighter.  What happens now, in practical terms?  Do you have to go back to court yourself or is this done without you needing to be there.  Any ideas how long for a judge to reach a decision?  Do they just look at whether the previous judge followed the appropriate procedures etc or do they look at the entire case again.

What an absolute pain they are.  Is this the last appeal they can do or is there another if they lose this one as well?

I understand completely what you mean about the way they behave - absolutely no sense of self awareness or relative normality as seen by other people.

I am crossing my fingers that you don't have to do too much this time? xx

OK, correction, Tupp:

The PD's get to who knows how long to write a response brief to our response brief.  Ya, that means they get the first, and last word, and pretty much our response brief is taken up by their long winded bs appeal brief accusations, which make no sense if you' paying attention to the facts in the case.  Mostly, opposing counsel does go on with erroneous, previously disproved facts he trots out to engender sympathy for his clients. 

Sometimes it works, but never in the long run.  Just manages to prolong the enevitable, IME.

It took this court about 2 months to rule last time were were in front of them.  Will just have to see. I don't think there's any more appeals, after this.

Lighter

[Twoapenny]

Oh, Lighter.  What happens now, in practical terms?  Do you have to go back to court yourself or is this done without you needing to be there.  Any ideas how long for a judge to reach a decision?  Do they just look at whether the previous judge followed the appropriate procedures etc or do they look at the entire case again.

What an absolute pain they are.  Is this the last appeal they can do or is there another if they lose this one as well?

I understand completely what you mean about the way they behave - absolutely no sense of self awareness or relative normality as seen by other people.

I am crossing my fingers that you don't have to do too much this time? xx

OK, correction, Tupp:

The PD's get to who knows how long to write a response brief to our response brief.  Ya, that means they get the first, and last word, and pretty much our response brief is taken up by their long winded bs appeal brief accusations, which make no sense if you' paying attention to the facts in the case.  Mostly, opposing counsel does go on with erroneous, previously disproved facts he trots out to engender sympathy for his clients. 

Sometimes it works, but never in the long run.  Just manages to prolong the enevitable, IME.

It took this court about 2 months to rule last time were were in front of them.  Will just have to see. I don't think there's any more appeals, after this.

Lighter

I guess there's little you can do but wait and see, then?  I'm assuming they've got zero chance of getting anywhere with it, as they're just re-hashing old evidence that's already been disproved?  And presumably there's been no contravention of any particular process by the previous court so they can't bang a drum from that point of view.  Frustrating for you.  You will have the patience of a saint by the time this is over.  I imagine judges and other court officials probably do see this sort of thing more than we realise (and therefore recognise it for the nonsense that it is).  Hope so, anyway.  Sending light over the pond to you xx

[Cadbury]

I don't know your full story as I've been away for a long long time. However, I have had a lot of court experience with n's! I think their way of writing is so insane that it almost helps us when they appeal in their mad ways. I always found myself being extra clear and succinct so that the comparison was so much clearer for the court to see.

Sounds like that will happen with you, I really hope so!

[Hopalong]

I think their way of writing is so insane that it almost helps us

That's my experience too, Cadbury. I hope it's the same for Lighter.

And hello! It's so nice to see an "old" name here again.

Hops