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Dirty Hippy

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Re: Anything again
« Reply #240 on: July 18, 2026, 10:28:41 PM »

Made it to three yard sales. Feels like a waste of a day.

Got a free little plant cuz I couldn't carry the giant ones.

Found no hats. No shoes. Oh well.

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Re: Anything again
« Reply #241 on: July 20, 2026, 01:37:37 PM »
So I went to a pagan gathering after I went to church. I feel like I am too old for this.

Wanted to write about it earlier but board was down. Getting ready to get out and do errands.

Had never gone to a pagan gathering before so it was new experience.

- I did not feel overly awkward about meeting new people this time
- The stereotypes about pagans seemed to fit these people
- People wearing black, dark makeup, too much cheap jewelry (the garments of paganism identity thing)
- I did not dress up for it. I do have a witchy scarf I snatched from a free table but it's not practical for me to dress up just to do some social theater

- someone asked the group if they deny anybody inclusion and they do
----- MAGA witches
----- MEGA witches
----- Catholic witches
---------------- Italian Catholic witches
---------------- Something about Irish something

I had asked them about it and when I had mentioned it I had said "oh right okay like Mexican-Catholics also going to A Bruja. This seemed to have been a dead end in their mind. Mexico is also off limits for this group I guess something to do with the border politics lol.
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Well I never heard of a MAGA MEGA Italian Catholic witch thing.

In any case I might be in-the-closet amongst the pagans as it seems to be overtly political. Someone brought up the topic about how she was proud her company at work was still doing DEI.

I'm not Christian enough to be Christian.
I'm not correct-pagan enough to be socially-pagan.
I'm okay with this but it gives me some feedback about my history of not joining social groups. Reminded that it was not just my shyness it was also that groups often felt not-me.
So I know I need to join outdoorsy and sports groups I just can't access it now without vehicle. Oh well.
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I suppose I must ask myself what does participating in this group have to offer me?
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Made some oatmeal and dumped coconut milk on it. It's actually delicious never had tried this before. Total winner.
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Tried something new so giving myself credit for it. New thing points accessed.
Didn't lose my shit over the focus on politics and LGBTQ.
I'm NOT there to earn any person's fake friendship.

More rando thoughts and noticings.
There were two women who were talking about their religious upbringing that is extreme christian like culty christian so I can see why they rebelled against it but it makes me think their involvement with the paganism has to do with like some personal angst thing. I didn't say anything against them. I'm just questioning why I would want to get to know these people. One of the two women seemed really clueless "I'm tired, I almost tripped on the dirt, what spiritual meaning does this have?" she says.... also she told us how she just started taking new medication but .... she can't connect the dots herself.

So anyways. What am I saying now that I have reflected.
I'm saying I have to be very careful and guarded around these people I think is what I am saying. They review some books which seems interesting to me.

organizer -- seems to have some ideas from reading etc which are worth discussing seems positive
person with dark eyeliner -- seems a bit aggressive and lash out type
blonde with big butt -- seems clueless
some guy -- I couldn't read very much from this guy only he was into the typical trinkets gems- crystals --
me- dressed in suspiciously average clothes not looking witchy they might suspect me of being not liberal enough as what I was wearing inadvertently looked vaguely patriotic.

What am I saying. Guess just doing preliminary reflection.
 
 





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Re: Anything again
« Reply #242 on: July 20, 2026, 06:01:44 PM »

The church I go to, they had a picnic few weeks back. I went I talked to a handful of people I was sitting at a table where there was a church guy I was too tired to move and I wanted to sit in the shade and there were other people there off and on.

Well over the weekend I caught him focusing on me from across the room at church. This is enough to make me start thinking of avoiding socializing aspect of church.

I don't like the guy he is old of course that is always how they play it.

The church has some women's events I might limit my attendance to only that.

Last thing I want or need is unwanted male attention from some entitled older guy (barf on a bible)

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Re: Anything again
« Reply #243 on: July 21, 2026, 09:30:59 AM »
Performative paganism? All props - no beliefs or practice?

Yeah. There is a lot of that. I'd suggest reading in that topic, if you're curious and then practice PRIVATELY.  There are some calender events that are more socially observed but it's not a requirement. A lot of christian groups mirror the same kind of empty, shallow "practice" all for the sake of social stuff. Ego satisfaction.

There's no one answer that "fits all" I guess. And maybe the social interaction is enough for some people. For me it's exhausting.
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« Reply #244 on: July 21, 2026, 11:07:33 AM »

Yes, good reflection Skeptikal.

After reading your post I think it's helping me realize that I need both a private world and a social world. Also I think I am getting caught up with HOW OTHER people DO their social world.

I'm going to say that outdoors enthusiasts and musicians seem to have much cooler social lives than pagans. The pagans still seem like the very weird vulnerable kids at school or something but they've all gotten older and are still using bracelets as their symbol of social significance or something. idk

The church has some magical aspects - they prayers for sickness seems to be a constant at the church I attend and they tell the pastor AS IF he is a wizard that can enchant the correct words to bend gods will. This so much reminds me of every other cult.

I guess my concern about paganism is it seems to be a bit of a closed environment I do not really trust what might go on  AND I will say as an older person I don't like sitting at a table wondering who is actually really female and who is a male larping as female. If I look at their tits I'm trying to figure out if it's injection induced or what is going on.

Socializing is a lot of effort.

The smoke seems to be heading in our direction according to the radio maybe idk.

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« Reply #245 on: July 21, 2026, 01:08:35 PM »
Yes, all these kinds of groups, IMO, are a lot like HS cliches. Even if they don't enforce political uniformity. Group dynamics is a real thing - and one can even recognize various types or stereotypes of personalities in almost any group. I briefly entertained participating in a local artist's co-op, until I started recognizing some of the types that eventually wear out my politeness/patience.

But there ARE small informal groups around and yes, everyone is friends so getting invited to join might take awhile and some effort. Quilters, crafters - lots of spinners, weavers, knitters etc - make an effort to get together on a regular basis, like monthly to share, problemsolve, etc. Same is true of outdoorsy people - hikers, water sports, rock climbers, cyclists. Forgot - gardeners, too! You can usually meet people like this at art fairs, farmer's markets, or even visiting those co-op store fronts.
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« Reply #246 on: July 23, 2026, 12:53:18 AM »
Won a raffle while back and got some lame-o art supplies.

Took my lame-o art supplies to an art get together and doodled some oak-ish leaf and branch thingy I picked on the way there.

There was not a lot of conversation at this art thing there often isn't or it references so much pop culture that I have no idea what people are talking about. Oh well I went. I am going. I am doing.

The mountain ranges are obscured from that smoke. It's still not awful yet.

The actual tree parts were more beautiful than my doodle of them. I feel guilty for molesting nature just to make a rendition of it. A bullshit rendition. Nature is so wonderful by itself even if nobody observes it or brands it or names it. It's fine all by itself.

I hastily had to put the leaf and twig parts into the bathroom garbage can on my way out. There is the chance I am allergic to it because of course I would have to be allergic to oak? maybe who knows doesn't matter right now .... have to set my alarm before I fall asleep and tomorrow I will wing it in the morning
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Re: Anything again
« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2026, 09:27:53 PM »
Went to church and successfully avoided the dude by quickly walking past him and then also leaving when he came near the table I was at. I got to talk to ladies and the pastor's wife and that was good enough for me for socializing. Well I would have enjoyed a better weekend.

I feel like some of the people at the church have a good energy in the sense that some of them don't appear to be harboring a lot of resentment, jealousy, bitterness whatever. It's really hard to be around people that just FEED negativity and stir it out of boredom.

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Re: Anything again
« Reply #248 on: Today at 12:50:44 PM »

Made a little doodle this morning to represent intuition. It was only a line drawing of a body emphasis on heart, lungs, stomach and feet. Refrained from adding any symbols beyond the body to keep it intuition focused and not out of body abstracted stuff. I was looking at it and I was thinking wow she is sad!

Here is the thing --- I have been going to church of months now. Doing new things meeting different types of people even the pagan thing. And fundamentally after this superficial transactional moments pass I am still very sad.

So I guess I am telling myself okay, it's OKAY to be sad but also I mean it indicates something is wrong right. Most people would DO something about their sadness they would NOT tolerate it. But I am NOT GOOD AT doing something about my sadness.

Being sad is exhausting. Maybe I need to try a different church meet a new set of people.

Doing self awareness - checking in with self and trying to be in touch with intuition.

So many things in my life are going haywire externally as well.

"A haywire camp is one where inferior equipment is used..." — Ralph C. Bryant, Logging (1913)

I really need to take the emotions out of my tasks while simultaneously being "more intuitive"  bwa hahahaha

Will finish breakfast and go do errands and then find a quiet spot to make phone calls from.

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Re: Anything again
« Reply #249 on: Today at 04:36:13 PM »
AI---

I asked AI if sadness and grief were different because they do not seem the exact same to me.

Intentionality and Structural Object-Directedness: In phenomenological philosophy and cognitive emotion theory, grief is structurally dyadic or object-oriented—it requires a specific, externalized loss (a person, a status, a definitive rupture of a life-world). It is a totalized disorientation of the self relative to a lost object. Conversely, sadness can be ambient or non-object-specific; it is a fundamental attunement to the state of things or an ongoing condition of existence, rather than a narrative tracking of a specific stolen or missing entity.

Temporal Horizons: Philosophers of emotion (such as Matthew Ratcliffe in his work on the structural phenomenology of emotional "worlds") note that grief alters the structure of time by constantly throwing the self backward into an irrecoverable past or freezing it against an obstructed future. Sadness, however, retains an open temporal horizon. It is a state of heavy, low-arousal presence (anergia) that sits within the present moment without necessarily demanding a structural accounting of what was taken.

Physiological and Behavioral Arousal: Evolutionary psychology (e.g., David Huron's comparative work on stress responses) differentiates the two through autonomic arousal. Grief is a high-arousal, volatile state characterized by spikes in epinephrine, panic, and acute protest behaviors (weeping, searching, acute destabilization). Sadness is a low-arousal, conservation-withdrawal state. It lowers metabolic and physiological output, operating as a biological energy-conservation response to chronic baseline stress or systemic wear-down rather than acute trauma.

The Diagnostic Boundary of the Self: As psychological and psychiatric differentiation outlines, grief maintains a preserved core self-esteem focused strictly outward on the loss. Sadness points to an internal state of affective resignation—a posture toward the self's endurance under weight rather than an active mourning process over a discrete, named catastrophe.