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[mum]

Have fun, Sela. I can imagine those relatives being soooo excited: "we have this cool relative we never knew???? How have we lived without her????" I see you spreading joy wherever you go. 

[Sela]

I see you spreading joy wherever you go.

Thanks Mum!!     in a joyful but blunderous way sometimes I do!!! (heehee).  Not everywhere though.

For instance.....phewy to anyone who dares to trip me as I skip along!!  I may fall....but I will get up again....and I might be twice as joyful as I was, when I do!!   Frustrates the heck outta some!

 

Sela

[Butterfly]

((((Sela))))

I hope you will have a refreshing and splendid time!  Going on a long train ride sounds like so much fun.  I'd always wanted to do that.  Maybe someday I will.

We will miss you too!!!

Butterfly

[Sallying Forth]

How does one park their car like this person did? It never fails to amaze me what people can do with their vehicles.

My H and I were eating dinner at this mall and came upon this interesting accident.

[Stormchild]

For everyone who has ended up in court because of an N... may all your Ns get the same lawyer:

http://www.comics.com/comics/fminus/archive/fminus-20050713.html

[miaxo]

Stormchild,

 

Thanks...I needed that.

[Butterfly]

BEAUTY SECRETS

For attractive lips, speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, let a child run his/her fingers through it once a day.
For poise, walk with the knowledge that you never walk alone.
People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived,
Reclaimed, and redeemed; never throw out anyone.
Remember, if you ever need a helping hand,
You will find one at the end of each of your arms.
As you grow older, you will discover that you have two hands;
One for helping yourself, and the other for helping others.

[spyralle]

Butterfly
That is very beautiful and sums everythingup really

Thank you
Spyralle x

[Butterfly]

Anyway  by Kent Keith

The verses below reportedly were engraved on the wall of Mother Teresa's home for children in Calcutta, and are widely attributed to her. However, according to The New York Times, the verses actually were written by 19-year-old Kent Keith in a motivation booklet for high school counselors published while he was a student at Harvard in 1968.



             ANYWAY

People are often unreasonable, Illogical,
and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you
of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.

If you are successful,You will win some
false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and frank,
people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.

What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.

The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.

Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you have anyway.

You see, in the final analysis,
it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway[/color].

[gnostic begs to]

...begs to suggested a kind of amendment or clarification to
i]People are often unreasonable, Illogical,
and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway."
namely, that if they are unresonable if it be a sin where
they should be rebuked as jesus speaks of in luke 17:3
which tho on the surface seems to only apply to men...
then when they are unreasonable in not repenting from such a rebuke
, they should not be forgiven....
otherwise one could be guilty of enabling bad behaviour...

Anyway  by Kent Keith

The verses below reportedly were engraved on the wall of Mother Teresa's home for children in Calcutta, and are widely attributed to her. However, according to The New York Times, the verses actually were written by 19-year-old Kent Keith in a motivation booklet for high school counselors published while he was a student at Harvard in 1968.



             ANYWAY

People are often unreasonable, Illogical,
and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.

If you are kind, people may accuse you
of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.

If you are successful,You will win some
false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.

If you are honest and frank,
people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.

What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.

If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.

The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.

Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you have anyway.

You see, in the final analysis,
it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway[/color].

[Butterfly]

then when they are unreasonable in not repenting from such a rebuke
, they should not be forgiven....

Not sure what you mean that they should not be forgiven if they don't repent from a rebuke.  Forgiveness has little to do with the violator, but has everything to do with the violated.  Forgiving someone frees oneself from an emotional bond to the perpetrator.  Do you agree?  Forgiveness frees oneself from hate, anger, anxiety, etc.  All of which do harm to our emotional and physical health.

otherwise one could be guilty of enabling bad behaviour...
 
Actually, the contrary can happen.  When the person who did wrong was granted forgiveness by the afflicted individual, he/she may be so moved by the forgiveness granted that it can cause that person to change for the better.  I think the mysterious power of forgiveness can affect both parties.

[Sela]

Hi all!

Thought I'd pop in here as I'm finally back from my holiday (which was fantastic, fabulous and fun!! ).  Thankyou for your good wishes Butterfly!  I took them with me!

I'm so glad to read about "anyway" here in "anything".  Thanks so much for posting that Butterfly!  I liked the beauty secrets too!  Thankyou.

Oh.... gnostic.....is that you Joe?  No worries.  I would like to add to what Butterfly replied to you in regard to enabling poor behaviour.  I am waaaaaaay tooooo big of a sinner to run around rebuking others.  I just don't feel qualified for the job.  But forgiving......now there's something I can choose...something that is my choice and which is far from sinnful.   I think I get what you mean, in a way though.  Like if I saw someone doing some evil thing....I hope I would at least try to say something to encourage an end to it.  I'm not sure though, if a rebuke would be appropriate or effective, even in that circumstance?  Maybe it would?  Maybe not?  I don't know that I'd choose it.

It just seems like there are really two issues in this regard.....the issue of choosing to forgive someone for their bad behaviour and the issue of not accepting the bad behaviour/speaking or acting against it??  One is in regard to the person and the other is in regard to their behaviour.  The old.....love the sinner not the sin......thingy eh?

The first, for me, is clearly a choice I embrace.  The second, is another choice  I may decide I must try to do something about or I may think I'm in no position to influence.  If I think I have stood in similar shoes, as the sinner, and that I have some understanding into the behaviour/or that I am interested in understanding more about it, I might feel I have some empathy of how the person might be feeling and acting or at least I might want to empathize.  Possibly, I might desire to share what I have experienced...in my own behaviour...or I may want to know more about their's.  It still ...does not seem to me....the most desirable or effective way to encourage a change in the other person's behaviour would be....by rebuking.

Rebuking......rebuke

To criticize or reprove sharply; reprimand.
To check or repress.

This sounds like very old thinking to me.....the way things used to be done.   It's a war-inducing method of slam-bashing to belittle, embarrass, insult, put down, and otherwise severely confront.  I suppose my point is that by rebuking.....I chance sinning and hurting others as I go along.  I may seem as if I consider myself above others.  I might appear a bit n-ish.  It just makes more sence to me to try to encourage change by offering understanding, empathy, encouragement and a kind/helping hand, instead of a sharp reprove ......a positive suggestion rather than a criticism.... an idea on things that might help bring change.....over a verbal kick in the butt.

And if the person.....chooses to ignor or reject such offers......it is their loss.
It has no effect or bearing on my choice or ability to forgive.  It will, however, determine whether or not I choose to offer any further encouragement.  But encouragement seems more digestible than reproval, to me, and so I guess I assume others might find it tastier too.

More bees with honey kinda thing.

Hey....Stormy.  Sorry I can't read your link....it isn't connecting when I click.  Hope all is well with you.

Hope you all will have a wonderful day today.  (((((((all)))))))

Sela 

[Butterfly]

Welcome back, Sela.   I'm glad to hear you had a fantastic, fabulous, and fun trip! 

[Sela]

Hey thanks Butterfly!!

Glad you are still posting here.  Hope things are going better for you.

I am still in awe of your little fishes....they are so cute and so creative!!

Do you paint or do other art?  Just curious and ofcourse...no worries if you don't feel like answering.

  Sela

[Butterfly]

I am still in awe of your little fishes....they are so cute and so creative!!

They are cute and delightful to view, aren't they?  It isn't my original idea, though.  I had borrowed it from someone else.

Glad you are still posting here.
I only post on the board once in awhile.  There are enough wise folks posting here without me having to put my 2 cents in.  I think my monetary worth is deflating in value.  hehehe, just kidding.

Hope things are going better for you
I'm just hanging...if ya know what I mean.  Thanks for your good thoughts of me.