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Hopalong

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« Reply #735 on: July 15, 2006, 11:50:43 AM »
You sound great, P!
And like you know how to love summer and just LIVE it.

Yay you.

Glad you're good and come back when it's easy.

Summertiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime....and the livin' is eaaaaaaaaaaaaasyyyyyyyyy....
Jellyfish are stinginPortiaaaaaaaaa.......and the cotton is hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh....

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« Reply #736 on: July 15, 2006, 11:55:13 AM »
Hiya RM:

Sorry you were offended by the joke.  It was just a joke I thought was funny and thought some might also find funny.  I like it when people smile.  :D  Sure didn't mean to insult or upset you.

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"Life is very short
And there's no time for fighting and fussing my friends."

...The Beatles

Wise guys eh?  I like that one.

Also this:

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The young man who has not wept is a savage,
and the old man who will not laugh is a fool.

George Santayana

Maybe others will like those quotes too?  I hope so.

Thanks P for your posts re the joke.  Also for assuming my intentions were good/sharing fun (which they were.  I meant/hoped people would smile/laugh.  I'm glad you did and I appreciate your saying so very much).

Sela




PS:  It's 40 degrees here and the only way to breathe is to sit infront of a fan with a cool glass of something (ice tea works nicely).  Still, I like it much better like this than with that white stuff that has to be shovelled.  :mrgreen:  Glad your trip was good! (but not the jellyfish part!  Ouch!  That sounds painful!  Hope lot's of people develop a taste for those pesky rubbery fishes!  I had no idea there were so many species or that they could be so dangerous--check out the link).

Hydrozoa sounds like the brave one!  Wow! 

Hope you're ok (((((((((P)))))))  That doesn't sound like fun at all.  :(

http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic199.htm

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« Reply #737 on: July 15, 2006, 01:30:46 PM »
Thank you Sela

It's all good, girl

Sela

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« Reply #738 on: July 15, 2006, 03:11:08 PM »
I'm glad RM.  :D

I got thinking about "assumptions" and found this little essay.  Interesting topic:

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The more clearly you understand the basis of your thinking, the more connections you can make, the more limitations you perceive, the more you begin to understand about the process.

http://www.ioa.com/~shermis/socjus/assumpt.html

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« Reply #739 on: July 15, 2006, 03:15:21 PM »
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It's 40 degrees here and the only way to breathe is to sit infront of a fan with a cool glass of something (ice tea works nicely). 


I guess we American's are just tougher than you Canucks and Euroweenies.

Its 95 here and its quite comfortable.  :P 8)

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« Reply #740 on: July 15, 2006, 03:19:20 PM »
Hey, speak fer yerself, Mr. Pup  :P   It's 99 here and this weenie is goin to play in da sprinkler  :wink:

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« Reply #741 on: July 15, 2006, 03:27:55 PM »
Hey Ho Muddy:

Yep.  Ya'll are tougher but we're younger and better lookin'! (only because the ice keeps us frozen 1/2 the time up here (thus delaying the aging process) and plus we judge ourselves with just barely thawed out eyes--by our Northern Standards which differ...or hardly rate....and are arguable).

Enjoy the comforts of your 95 Mud.  Soon my favorite season will be here!!

The fall.

 :D Sela

PS:  Have fun in the sprinkler CH.  I'd slip and break my tail bone.  :roll:  Heading down...now finally...to the safety of my sewing machine and to look upon my fish...with envy.

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« Reply #742 on: July 15, 2006, 07:20:09 PM »
Hi Sela...

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Heading down...now finally...to the safety of my sewing machine and to look upon my fish...with envy.


You must be quilting today   :D .... Mammaw's on Wisconsin and I'm working Wyoming...  then 2 more to embroider after that before sewing the top and sending it to be quilted.  Wish me luck... last time I had such difficulty sewing a straight line..   :shock:  and Mammaw watches EVERY stitch!!

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« Reply #743 on: July 15, 2006, 08:19:12 PM »
Hi Mountainspring:

Nope.  I'm not quilting today.  Working on a dress for my eldest daughter and I ran into trouble!!  Didn't buy enough fabric!   :shock:  So tomorrow I'll get my butt out and try to buy a 1/4 meter more, which is all we need.  Did the bondice and straps and cut all the other pieces.  I'm as far as I can go with it.  It's a 3 tier skirt and lovely blue material with tiny white flowers on.  Hope I can get some more of it or I don't know what I'll do!

Your quilt sounds wonderful.  Do you have it quilted by a long arm machine or do you send it to people to do it by hand?  I try to do my own but my stitches are not nearly as lovely as some.  Also, I do quilt on machine, especially now that I've learned this quilt-as-you-go technique.  Works fine enough for me.  But then again, I like quilts that have errors in them so it's clear that they're home made.  This occurs without much effort on my part too.  :D

Sela

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« Reply #744 on: July 15, 2006, 09:36:27 PM »
We have them quilted by machine.  She has made several and had them quilted by hand, but it takes so long to get them back.  We were in Hancocks the other day and some ladies were demonstrating a machine that does embroidery.  They were showing us how it filled in a leaf, not just the edges, but filled in it green.  It was really neat to watch. 

The dress sounds lovely.  I hope you find the fabric!   :D

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« Reply #745 on: July 17, 2006, 08:54:10 AM »
Hi again Mountainspring:

Oh those embroidery machines are something aren't they?  The ones I saw even have a spot to put in a cd and there is a mini computer inside.  They can be programmed to sew the most amazing designs using plenty of colour.  I think they are interesting but to be honest, they take away from the art, if you ask me.  If all I have to do is push a few buttons and sit back an watch.....where is the craft?  So, I piddle away occasionally at my own attempt to embroider and it's clearly hand done.  But for some people, those machines might be the answer to their prayers!

Totally different subject coming up:

While thinking about behaviour and why we behave the way we do....I went surfing.  I liked this article.
It talks about the theory that people act for mostly selfish reasons.

http://www.newint.org/issue289/born.htm

Kinda sums up the whole group mentality thingy too eh?  It can be lovely when people bond together and work towards some positive end, and just awful when no one acts in the face of evil.

Bottom line is .......fear. 

It seems fear is the basis for most inaction in most of those circumstances.   I guess the way around that is to embrace the idea of not making decisions based on fear.    Easier said than done sometimes too.

Sela

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« Reply #746 on: July 17, 2006, 09:33:11 AM »
I know this probably sounds corny, but hearing you guys talk about sewing and needlework brings back my happiest childhood memories with NMom. She was an amazing seamstress.

I have been daydreaming about beginning to sew again. Still have an ancient machine. No bells and whistles, but it sews a seam. If I could find a SUPER simple pattern for a dress, then I'd rely on the fabric to glam it up.

But. Job first, hobbies later.

thanks for the nostalgia!

Hops

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« Reply #747 on: July 17, 2006, 10:48:45 AM »
Sela, hi, how are you? I liked your link. :D From the link:

morality is a matter of cognitive (not emotional) development: it matters not one whit whether we care about or empathize with other people so long as we respect their rights as human beings.

Yeah! Absolutely! For me anyhow. What about you?

Some critics, notably feminist psychologist Carol Gilligan, have challenged the theory as sexist: men may favour abstract theoretical notions of rights and justice, but women, she says, are more likely to construct morality rooted in their sense of connection with other people, a morality of care and empathy.

Rubbish! :x To me. To me, this is sexist. It’s sexist to both sexes: men are like that, women are like this. Nonsense. So this woman thinks she can speak on behalf of all women? Give me a break! :D haha.

The frightening truth uncovered by these classic psychological studies is that it is not too difficult to set up situations in which most of us behave worse than we could have thought possible, out of conformity, fear of what others might think, loss of individual identity or obedience to authority.

Aye, indeed. Another truth is that so many people in so many societies don’t have the luxury of time to think – they’re too busy doing, working, raising kids, getting food, avoiding being hurt etc. Having the time to think is a luxury I wish many, many more people had.

Too much doing, not enough thinking!

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« Reply #748 on: July 18, 2006, 09:27:40 AM »
Hi Sela... interesting article.

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It seems fear is the basis for most inaction in most of those circumstances.

In those circumstances, yes, but in other types of decisions, fear can serve as a warning that something isn't right and needs to be thought through carefully.  Fear can be a healthy warning in certain circumstances, but it can also prevent growth in other circumstances. The trick is knowing whether the fear is a healthy one.  That's not always easy I think.

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I guess the way around that is to embrace the idea of not making decisions based on fear.


True if you add alone to the end of the sentence.  Decisions shouldn't be made based on fear alone. 

Portia...  For me, morality is a matter of both cognitive and emotional development.  I need to think more on that one though.

Interesting article.










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« Reply #749 on: July 18, 2006, 10:46:21 AM »
Hi all:

Hey P, I think so too re morality.  As a matter of fact, emotions can cloud morality, imo.  That may sound cold or uncaring but actually, for me, it's tough and requires great caring to implement.   I feel strong emotions and sometimes, a great need to express them, especially re moral issues.

If I try to make a moral decision, for instance, and I allow my emotions to be the biggest factor in the decision, I'm actually making an emotional decision, not a moral one.

If I try to make a moral decision, and I allow my cognitive skills to do the work......my decision will be a more morally based one (assuming I'm being cognitive about morals).

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it matters not one whit whether we care about or empathize with other people so long as we respect their rights as human beings.

That sounds like such a cut and dry statement doesn't it?

Truly, if we respect people's rights as human beings, we are being caring, I think, without expressing emotion.  We don't have to like it all or feel happy about it, in order to be respectful.  That's what I think anyhow.  If I decide stuff based on my personal feelings, I might not be being respectful of that other person's rights.  I might be putting my rights ahead of others (and maybe not even aware of it).  So leaving emotions out of it (which is not easy to do sometimes) just seems the more fair, reasonable, and truly decent way to work things through.
That's my take, anyhow, and I had not seen that described so boldly, like that before, so this article grabbed my attention.

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It’s sexist to both sexes:

I think so too.  There are no male or female ways of thinking or emotions.  Those are just ideas....imposed on us.....by our society/media/current times.  Ladies used to be expected to faint at the sight of anything distasteful and men were never to cry.  I'm glad some of those ideas have changed and I think they will continue to.  I hope so anyway.

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Too much doing, not enough thinking!

Yep.  And we can all act without thinking too eh?

This was something very big that I had to learn.  I used to have such clear ideas about what I would do, not do, how I would act, never act, etc in certain circumstances or under specific conditions.  Now I realize, I truly don't know much at all.

Hi MS:

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fear can serve as a warning that something isn't right and needs to be thought through carefully.  Fear can be a healthy warning in certain circumstances, but it can also prevent growth in other circumstances. The trick is knowing whether the fear is a healthy one.  That's not always easy I think.

Good points.   Another trick is asking ourselves why?  Why am I (or not) acting?  What am I afraid of?
And if the answers can be found and dealt with.......things can go better eh?  Or at least.....they go real.

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Decisions shouldn't be made based on fear alone.


I think I disagree with you.  Sometimes, fear is the best reason to make a decision.  For example:

If someone is holding a gun to my head......fear will keep me doing whatever I must to survive.  Ofcourse, it's arguable that thought....thinking logically... also plays a part in my decision to act/not act, in such a case.

So how about.......I meet some dude and I don't like what I see in his eyes.  I feel fear (for some reason I can't explain).   I decide not to accept his invitation for a date or to give him my number.

There is no logical reason for this other than what my gut feeling of fear is communicating right?  So in this case, it seems to me......the right thing to do is to base my decision on my gut feeling of fear.  It seems illogical to ignore my instincts.

I guess there are no absolutes eh?  My basic reasoning is that often, fears can be overcome and decisions need not be ruled by fear (often.....not always, ofcourse).  And I would agree with you (and contradict myself again) that fear alone is not usually a good thing to base decisions on (usually....but not always eh?)

Have I talked myself in a big enough circle yet?   :? :roll:  Thanks for putting up with me (((((((all))))))).

Hey Hoppy:  Maybe drag out that old machine and use it for breaks/relief from the other tedious tasks at hand?  Could be a good thingy?

 :D Sela