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Jaded911:
Oh, by the way. That list that Sand listed was awesome if anyone hasn't had a chance to look at it. If you haven't had a chance, run over there and take a peak at it.
Nike:
Because I did not have all of the facts and I had no right to put my two cents in. Perhaps that would be some good advice for anyone and everyone for that matter on the N-Partner board.
I think you hit the nail on the head right here as far as "me". I dont suppose I know all that I thought I knew so I will bow out (this surely isnt the first time for me!) :oops:
Anyway, I'm very sorry Hope, I didnt mean to upset you...I will mind my own business. xo Lisa
Jaded911:
Lisa,
I can only speak for myself when I tell you that my intentions were never to change your mind about the events that took place. It just is not right how we were kicked off for voicing our feelings. I will take the crap I am getting about the N-actions Word being stated, but good grief. We have said how helpless we felt during our relationship because of way our N communicated or did not communicate with us. I saw nothing different from Sands dismissing manner to his dismissing manner. Either way you spell it, she was dismissive and I just really can not tolerate that from anyone again. How do you think Herm felt when she read Sands dismissive statements. How do you think Herm felt when Sand tried to make her look like she had less knowledge then Sand, how do you think Herm felt knowing that all the people on N-partners board read that post, well ya know, we do know Lisa. We know exactly how Herm felt at that time which led to her leaving the board. She felt belittled, stupid,like she did not have the right to speak her mind without being judged, she felt sad because she had to leave a place where she found comfort, she felt she had no voice. We know all the ways Herm felt, because we felt the same damn way because of our N partner.
I volunteered to speak up for a person I felt needed to know that there are people in this world who can show empathy and compassion and those people can also put others first before their own self, no matter what the price is.
If Herm would have been attacking Sand, I would have done the same thing for Sand. It is not a personal beef with Sand from me, it is a beef with someone who refused to consider theirself an equal to another. I want to contribute to anyone the self respect they deserve, I wish I would have done it for myself. There are good people out there who stand by their words. I am one of those people and I just can not contribute to anyone who hurts another persons self worth.
I_am_mine:
--- Quote from: hope2003 ---
I just read Engel's post on the Npartners board. She came to my defense saying that she couldn't see what I said that was offensive, and that my tone was reasonable.
--- End quote ---
I read that post, also, and was pretty impressed at the way good points were made in a very calm, logical manner. Then I read the reply, and was particularly struck by the part that began with this:
Ever so often 1, 2 or more come along and want to chalenge a board and its managers....
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but is this suggesting some kind of conspiracy? To me, it just seems to be another way of putting the spotlight on ONE person - no matter how it started, it ends up being about her. The words "1, 2 or more come along..." made me wonder if she's referring to some of you who have been on the board for awhile, or newbies....
Well, that board seems to have moved on - it's too bad the displaced people are still dealing with the aftermath....I wish it could have been worked out differently, for all your sakes.
bobbie
bunny:
What Sand does isn't "normal arguing." It's mean and it is narcissistic as all get-out. Lisa, if you don't see this, that's your prerogative. But you are coming up with trivial arguments and expecting others to be convinced. You also ask others to visit N-partners after being abused there. It's not healthy to return to an abusive place. And it's not going to happen because we see the situation differently, and, in my view, more accurately.
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