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October

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Mum and the car boot sale
« on: May 08, 2005, 09:16:02 AM »
This one should be a bit of light relief - of a kind.  Could do with some.   :)

Last night, on the way home from the May Fair, C and I decided that we could do with doing more of the same.  We decided to find out if Ngran was going to a carboot this morning, and then either C or both of us could tag along, just for the hell of it.  I absolutely hate carboot sales, but you have to try these things, sometimes, don't you?

So C rang Ngran from the car, and arranged to be there, at Gran's house, at 7.45 this morning, to go with her.  I promised to get her there.    

We got up a bit late, but not too bad, and arrived at 7.49.  There was nobody around; she had gone without C.  :shock:  I said, no worries, I know where they have gone.  So we drove to where I thought the carboot was, and it wasn't.  No idea where they were, so we came home for breakfast instead.

I said to C, we must not react to this; leave it to Ngran.  Let's just see.  I told her that her gran is very selfish, and does what she likes with no concern for anyone else, but that when we hear from her there will be a thousand reasons why what she did was ok and not hurtful.

I said if there is a message on our answerphone asking where we are, and that she has to go, for some reason, but is really sorry, then I would take back every word.  No message.  Dialled 1471.  No calls since yesterday.

So we waited, and then came a phone call from Ngran.  Now, she never, ever, ever rings anyone, so straight away I knew she is feeling guilty.  I kept it really really calm and straight, like I don't give a damn.  I just said hello, so she didn't know what to say, but in the end asked about this morning.  I said we were there at ten to eight, but you had gone.  You told C 7.45 didn't you?  She said, no, twenty to.  (Lie No 1  :lol: ).  I said, you told C to come at 7.45.  She said, no, quarter past (seven).  (Lie No 2)  

I said, well never mind, we just came home again.  No big deal.  Then I said goodbye.

C and I laughed our heads off at this, then came the next call; co-dependent called to the rescue.  My dad.  Saying what do you think?  MUM IS VERY VERY UPSET, BECAUSE SHE NEVER LETS ANYONE DOWN, AND SHE IS VERY UPSET.  I said no big deal, tell her to forget it (not about to feed her 'pity me' game.  No problem.  Put the phone down.  C and I fall about on the floor about Ngran being upset because she got found out, not because she hurt her granddaughter.

Manipulative old bag then manages coup de theatre par excellence.  You really have got to hand it to her.  Dad phones back, says there is car boot this morning, and another this afternoon.  They will take C if she wants to go.  C says she will think about it (not fussed at all; not at all wanting to go any more.)

One hour later Gran and Grandad knock at the door to collect her and take her to car boot, which grandad doesn't want to go to, but gran of course is dying to get to, but needs C as reason for going.  Then she can be forced to go, like a martyr, when really she is dying to be there, and grandad can't stand taking her, because he is like me, he hates them.

And by then, the excuses had got quite sophisticated.  The next door neighbour (a man I know well, who would certainly have waited for C if he had known.) wanted to get back in an hour because his son was playing football, so they were in a rush and couldn't wait, and because he was taking Gran, she couldn't ask him to wait, because it would not have been polite.  <Insert rude word of your choice expressing contempt for pack of lies here.>

C thought for a while, then decided she would go.  Dad then says to me, you are coming, aren't you?  I need a driver.  I said no, not likely.   :lol: (Not about to fall for that one!!  Next would be, I drive them in my car, he goes home in his.  No way!!!)

So they are there, and I am here, and Ngran has manipulated herself from being a selfish old woman who couldn't wait five minutes for her granddaughter to arrive, into the world's most loving gran, with almost no loss of face.  <Feeling rather sick now   :x >

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Mum and the car boot sale
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2005, 09:31:43 AM »
Oh brother!  Your Mom takes the cake.

I'm happy to see that you and your daughter were able to laugh it off.  She's predictable if nothing else.

((October))

Take care.
Mia

October

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Mum and the car boot sale
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2005, 09:38:33 AM »
Trying to laugh it off, but left feeling really mean now.  What if it is all true, and she is a saint?   :(

And on it goes ...

Crazymaking never ends until you learn to close the door on them.   :?

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2005, 10:12:48 AM »
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What if it is all true, and she is a saint?  


I doubt it.  If she were a saint she would have waited for her grandchild.  At the very minimum she would called gd to make sure everything was OK.  

BTW, I never heard of a car boot.....I guess it's the same as a flea market.

Anyway, I hope your day improves.   :)

Mia

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2005, 11:46:20 AM »
No worries, October. Saints don't stand up their grandchildren, and then lie to justify it.

The best part of all this is that you and your daughter were able to stay focused on the psychological process, and not get sucked in. Both of you, together, watching it unfold, being honest about what you saw, and finding that this provided a great deal of strength.

AND you were able to dodge the draft and didn't get sucked into chauffeur duty.

I mean - after all - you just might have had some plans of your own for that period of time, considering when the boot sale expedition was supposed to occur.

Good on you!

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2005, 11:54:48 AM »
Hi October,

Don't worry, your mother doesn't qualify for sainthood at this time. She sounds like a conniving old bat. You probably started feeling guilty because your father was hoping you'd rescue him. Shake it off, you did nothing wrong.

bunny

October

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2005, 04:02:57 PM »
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She sounds like a conniving old bat.


Thanks, Bunny.   :lol:  :lol:  It is good to be able to laugh again.  I was thinking, perhaps you would all fall for her lies.  Should have had more faith in my friends.   :)

Daughter did well out of her guilt, though.  Unheard of!!  Mum took her to 'look through' her jewellry box, and gave her some of the pieces in it.  (Costume stuff, but C is very pleased with it.  :) )

You are right, I was sorry not to rescue my dad.  I wanted to do it, but it was too difficult, by the time we reached that point I needed to be alone.  But it is hard to let him have to deal with it on his own.  You are very perceptive.   :D

Just noticed another clue.  In all the talk about what happened, all the focus was on what mum was feeling, and everything she did was aimed to help her feel better.  None whatever on what I or C were feeling.  Now that surely is not saintly behaviour.   :)   Good.  Gives  me something else to look for next time.

October

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2005, 04:14:35 PM »
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 you just might have had some plans of your own for that period of time, considering when the boot sale expedition was supposed to occur.

Good on you!


Thanks, Storm.  Yes, I told them that I was planning to tidy the lounge.   :lol:   I had already done the kitchen earlier, and had the lounge to do in the afternoon.  I said that if dad would hoover and dust for me, I would take them to the boot sale.  He said he would, but only as a joke.  Poor old dad!!

Then I was stuck having to tidy in case they came back later, but in the event, dad dropped C off without coming in.   :?

It is good to see these things happening and talk them through with C.  I need her to understand the underlying themes and dynamics as well as she is able to at just 12 years old.  She knows I love my mum, but she also knows that there has to be distance.  I am trying to teach her why that is, and that it is not anything to do with her.  It is how mum is.

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2005, 04:55:49 PM »
((((((((((October))))))))))

Dear kind October... whenever you start feeling sorry for your father, about not volunteeriing to stand in between him and your mother, just recount to yourself all of the times he left you unsupported, unprotected, and at the mercy of the merciless. When you were small. And his own child. And needed him to intervene and protect you.

You owe him a few quintillion honest consequences for that recurring choice he made throughout your life, and continues to make. Having done your lounge bit today (sorry, couldn't resist) you now owe him a few quintillion minus one.

Brava, brava!

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2005, 05:04:05 PM »
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in the event, dad dropped C off without coming in.   :?


Oopsie, missed this in previous post. Kinda snitty of him, eh? Maybe? I'd say he got back at you, likely as not, by doing this. Voila, guilt absolved... you've nothing at all to feel bad about.

[Mia - the boot of a car, in the UK, is what we call the trunk here in the States. And over yonder, what we call the hood, they call the bonnet.

The UK and the US - two nations divided by a common language  :lol:  :lol: ] But not on this board, not at all . :D  :D

October

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2005, 05:06:49 PM »
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Dear kind October... whenever you start feeling sorry for your father, about not volunteeriing to stand in between him and your mother, just recount to yourself all of the times he left you unsupported, unprotected, and at the mercy of the merciless. When you were small. And his own child. And needed him to intervene and protect you.



You are right.  Sad to say, but you are right.  Dad told us when we were small, that if he had to choose between us and mum, even if he knew she was wrong and we were right, he would always choose to back her up.  I must remember that.  And, of course, he is still doing it.   :?

He took me to one side today to tell me how very upset mum was.  It was a very important message, clearly.  Her image had been called into question, and there was a lot of damage limitation behaviour going on.  :)  

I am very pleased with my new strategy of not rising to the bait, but playing everything as cool as possible.  Not calling her out, but not falling for the stories either.  New strategy leaves her without a clue what to do to manipulate me into emotion.  No anger.  No happiness.  Just acceptance; a kind of 'if you say so', without committing to seeing it her way.

Thanks to all for caring enough to support me.  This is only a trivial little thing, but it is surprising how such little things affect people.  Especially when they are not feeling resilient.

October

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Mum and the car boot sale
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2005, 05:22:15 PM »
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[Mia - the boot of a car, in the UK, is what we call the trunk here in the States. And over yonder, what we call the hood, they call the bonnet.


Whoops, yes, meant to comment on this.  A car boot sale is one where lots of cars park in a field, and people sell tat out of the boot.   :lol:  It is the only place where haggling is commonplace.  Elsewhere haggling is not normal behaviour (although some people try it other places too.)

My mum likes them because she likes to buy things for less than it should cost.  There is a lot of Shadenfreude in her buying.  

As for cars; the bonnet is what you lift up to put the oil in once a year or so, if you remember, and the boot is where you put the shopping.  :D

Trunks are for packing clothes in for storage in the loft.  And a hood is what you have on a coat to pull up when it rains.  Hence 'hoodie'; a jumper/sweatshirt with a hood; very trendy with the youngsters.   :lol:

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2005, 05:23:44 PM »
Not trivial at all... it looks to me like a major step, honestly. you and C are actually seeing the dysfunction play out, as a set of clear behaviors. And you've withheld the usual type of response, and seen a clear set of reactions to that. And you know what you saw, and you know you are right, and you know what it means.

Can't get much more major than that.:D  :D  :D

((((((((October & C))))))))