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Jaded911

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I often wondered what was going on in my ex N mind.  I was kinda bored one day and decided to play Nancy Drew.  I kinda, sorta, umm, well I sat for a bit trying to, well I was bad, lol.  I checked on a few things and found something very interesting.  He had some music and I found the lyrics to some songs he had on this music dealio.  

His bark was always bigger then his bite.  That little confused boy still lurks for acceptance and love.

Never made it as a wise man
I couldn't cut it as a poor man stealin'
Tired of livin' like a blind man
I'm sick of sight without a sense of feelin
And this is how you remind me

This is how you remind me
Of what I really am
This is how you remind me
Of what I really am

It's not like you to say sorry
I was waiting on a different story
This time I'm mistaken
For handing you a heart worth breakin'
I've been wrong, I've been down
Been to the bottom of every bottle
These five words in my head
Scream "Are we having fun yet?"
yet, yet, yet, no no}x2

It's not like you didn't know that
I said I love you and I swear I still do
It must have been so bad
Cause living with me must have damn near killed you
and this is how you remind me
Of what I really am

This is how you remind me
Of what I really am
It's not like you to say sorry
I was waiting on a different story
This time I'm mistaken
For handing you a heart worth breakin'
I've been wrong, I've been down
Been to the bottom of every bottle
These five words in my head
Scream "Are we having fun yet?"
Yet, yet, yet, no no}x4

Never made it as a wise man
I couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing
And this is how you remind me

This is how you remind me (2x)
Of what I really am
This is how you remind me
Of what I really am
It's not like you to say sorry
I was waiting on a different story
This time I'm mistaken
For handing you a heart worth breakin'
I've been wrong, I've been down
Been to the bottom of every bottle
These five words in my head
Scream "Are we having fun yet?"
yet, yet, are we having fun yet }3x
yet, yet


2.  It's been awhile
Since I could hold my head up high
And it's been awhile since I first saw you
And it's been awhile since I could stand on my own two feet again
And it's been awhile since I could call you
But everything I can't remember
As f***ed up as it all may seem
The consequences that I've rendered I've stretched myself beyond my means

It's been awhile
Since I could say that I wasn't addicted
And it's been awhile since I could say I love myself as well
And it's been awhile since I've gone and f***ed things up just like I always do
And it's been awhile but all that s*** seems it disappear when I'm with you

But everything I can't remember
As f***ed up as it all may seem
The consequences that I've rendered I've gone and f***ed things up again

Why must I feel this way?
Just make this go away
Just one more peaceful day

It's been awhile
Since I could look at myself straight
And it's been awhile since I said I'm sorry
And it's been awhile since I've seen the way the candle lights your face
And it's been awhile but I can still remember just the way you taste

But everything I can't remember
As f***ed up as it all may seem to be
I know it's me
I cannot blame this on my father
He did the best he could for me

It's been awhile
Since I could hold my head up high
And it's been awhile since I said
I'm sorry
Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

Jaded

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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2005, 02:10:03 PM »
At the risk of seeming a bit direct, his song is sophomoric. It is a waste of time to read anything into it. Refocus on yourself, he is a zero.

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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2005, 02:57:40 PM »
He didn't write the songs, lol, don't give him that much credit.  The songs were downloaded through a site.  As far as him being a zero, thats a given.  Obviously from his choices he also feels the same about himself.

I have focussed on myself for many months now bunny.  Giving my precious thoughts and the time invested in them to him, is no longer an option for me.  I made sure I focussed all of my resources at me so I could relieve him of having that power over me.

Also wanted to add that the reason I posted this was because I have seen several people post that they wondered what was going on inside the heads of those people that were involved in their crisis.  I for one USED to wonder so much because his behavior was so abnormal to me.  I needed to try to figure out what the heck was going on so I wouldnt lose my sanity.  His song choices shows me that he is as mixed up inside his head as his behavior was during our relationship.  

Someone once told me that there are just some things in life that cant be solved and that they believed that Narcissistic behaviors/individuals are at the top of that list.
Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

Jaded

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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2005, 05:11:25 PM »
yeah, it is interesting.  I composed several response emails to my ex N's rantings and accusations last night, only to never send one and decide to let my lawyer handle it.  Why?  Because I realized I only wrote those responses with the same unproductive hope that he will get a "hammer on the head realization" that he is selfish and hurtful to his children while he tries to punish me endlessly.   This goes on the erroneous assumption that he is capable of learning this.  DUH.  So while they were fun to imagine sending.....he will never get it and my energy is best spent elsewhere.
I don't think you did any different.....you posted those things here, not back to him.  
Yup, what goes through thier minds is indeed NOT what a "normal" caring person would think.
It is almost funny (pitifully so).  
BTW; just heard that song this morning.....if my ex had any depth, I would send him a million songs ABOUT him and his selfishness.....instead I will say: "yup, this song sums him up", etc etc.

Maybe we should start a thread on songs we would like to send to our N's?  We could start with Carly Simon's "you're so vain" (."..you probably think this song is about you....")

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2005, 06:41:17 PM »
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Maybe we should start a thread on songs we would like to send to our N's? We could start with Carly Simon's "you're so vain" (."..you probably think this song is about you....")



Amen sister.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2005, 07:41:00 PM »
Here's what I think the song that he posted says:

"Women: Look how sensitive, vulnerable and groovy I am. If you want to get laid by a super-wonderful, perfect guy, I am it!!"

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2005, 08:05:32 PM »
Yup. Just N-cr@p and posing.

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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2005, 08:31:20 PM »
Not to defend him, did enough of that during the relationship.  But he didn't post anything.  Those songs were downloaded from ipod.  He downloaded the songs for his own private enjoyment.   This is where I came into the picture.  I was checking to see if I still had an email account on the place we had our internet.  While I was there I kinda, sorta, well snooped to see if he had changed any passwords to his accounts.  

He had so I played with passwords and bingo bango.  They sent him a confirmation email from the ipod deal and I logged on his account and the songs he has downloaded are there.  I proceeded to look up the lyrics.  Those songs are popular bands but not music he would usually listen to.  I found the lyrics insightful because it says alot about his frame of mind.

I mean if the songs had been "IM a ladies man, party all night long, shes gone and im on the prawl for my next victim, or something like that, I would have thought he was up to his old rock um sock um come to me baby bullshit.  He grew up with N parents.  Inside that sadistic Narcissistic man is the very injured child from his narcissistic parents.

I am not defending his choice of songs bunny nor his actions.  I just like to base my opinions on facts and I assumed by your response that you thought he was posting the songs on a forum or something seeking chicks.  Now mind you, that will probly be his choice of downloads next month, lol, but for this month he is battling some demons that live inside his head.
Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2005, 09:15:40 PM »
If you hacked into my ipod and saw my songs, you would not know who I am or what is going on in my head. Maybe it's time to leave him alone and not go into his email. Just let it go.

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2005, 12:39:11 AM »
FYI Bunny, I have left him alone, I will continue to leave him alone, and I have let it go.  Wow, before I post my next post I will check with you to make sure it is an acceptable one.  Hows that?
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2005, 03:12:46 PM »
This was my point:

You say you have nothing to do with him, but you're checking stuff on his computer to find out about him. You think you've found some interesting insight because of a song he has on his ipod. I don't believe the song is useful. Further, I think going into his email or computer or whatever is not helpful. So we aren't in agreement. If you want to check before posting, that is okay with me.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2005, 03:39:23 PM »
I had an experience last week on this board that I would hate to see others repeat.  Please be gentle with each other.

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2005, 04:50:13 PM »
Thanks, mum. I will not post to this thread any more. carry on.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2005, 06:01:09 AM »
Hiya mum:
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I had an experience last week on this board that I would hate to see others repeat. Please be gentle with each other.

Why would you hate to see others do it? (If you aren't making any mistakes lately you must be doing something wrong..?)

Okay, why am I in this thread asking questions...?

Because being gentle and kind ALL the time is okay to a point. But can it create a false view of how the world works AND sometimes, damn it :x , we need to get angry/annoyed/upset 8) . And if people choose to do that with someone or some others here........well: we choose to respond or not don't we? It's not like we're forced to respond. It's not like other members are our family, in a room with us...etc.

I'm not saying we don't care for each other here: some friendships are built over the net. In fact in my experience, the more I've 'had words' with someone here, the more likely they are to become stronger friends. :D True.

The board is like real life and in real life we have disagreements and misunderstandings. It's easy to assume someone's 'tone' from a post here, but we're missing body language etc. Misunderstanding is easy. I've done it lots. :oops:  And lots!  :D

One answer that works for me IF I feel a post is critical or angry is to READ THE ACTUAL WORDS about four times, at least four times. See all the different ways one could interpret those words. Once you do that, the post may not seem critical at all.

Mum, I don't see much anger or criticism in this thread btw. I see misunderstanding, but that's just my view! So, what is it about this exchange that concerns you? Now that is what's interesting to me. Like they used to ask me in job interviews "how do you handle conflict?" :roll:  :roll:  :roll: ohhhh let's not bother eh? :D

Just my two pennies Mum. 'Hate' is a strong word you used up there and it's interesting when we use strong words like hate, never, ever etc .... yes? If you disagree, that's okay with me, I'd like it to be okay with you too - P

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2005, 03:29:32 PM »
Hey, Portia.  This IS interesting, isn't it?
I took your advice and read your words four times.
I can't see your body language, or get inside your head,  nor can you see me.  Good point.

 I do disagree with you, for after reading that thread (five times) I sensed sarcasm in that thread, which has it's root in defensiveness, which comes from someone protecting something perhaps fragile inside.

Last week,  I reacted emotionally and not very carefully to something, and in my experience (and my opinion based on that), defensive reactions escalate conflict, regardless of where the feelings originate.  It was resolved, and I am the wiser for it, so no, I don't think anything is ever wasted.

 However, I see on this board, that people try to help each other out through sharing experiences.  That was my motivation.  I do "hate" misunderstandings between people, that can lead to
 more pain where healing could be instead.  I do wish for peace always.  I have no problem with that as a lifelong goal.
 I will not knowingly seek to escalate conflict (which I am not always aware of, being human and all), for to do so is to add pain to this already painful planet.
Assuming we all (on this board at least) wish to resolve conflict, (and hey, I may be WAY off here) I have found it best to wait to react, so that I can do so with some wisdom and perspective.  I was sharing that I had just re-learned this again last week.

As far as "real life" goes.....you are right on target with that.  The "real world" does not operate like my vision.  Clearly.  And "real life" has lots of suffering and pestilence that comes from just such attachments to perspectives.  I am attempting to learn how NOT to add more of that to the world.
Perhaps because I work in education, if I were asked how I handle conflict in your job interview scenario: I would not say I would avoid it.  I would say that on my best days I would handle it personally, without judgement and defensiveness and try to understand what it is I was attached to that caused the problem for me, that I would listen with good intention to what the other person is saying and do my best to resolve it with everyone's dignity intact.
I don't know what other jobs are like, but if I handled conflict intentionally
through hammer over the head methodology, I would be out of a job, or not in that "business" in the first place.

The other thing I would make clear is that conflicts are best handled through the parties involved. I was suggesting they use kindness, that's all. If either one of the people who I considered to be reacting with hurt were to post me saying everything was fine and I misunderstood.....then I was mistaken and I needed not be concerned for them.

If you are suggesting that posting here at all, is fruitless, because of all the differing ideologies, and that because of those, we should just watch it all happen, without opinion or loving advice, now that would be an interesting thing to hear.  I have actually thought of that frequently (and your post has me wondering, so thanks for the intriquing thought inspiration).