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Lizbeth

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« on: November 18, 2003, 10:50:15 PM »
OK, here goes.  My story (or a part of it, may be too long to do all at once).  I am 50 years old.  I was born to a woman who suffered from paranoid schizophrenia (diagnosed).  She was a very pretty, very smart woman (salutatorian of her high school) who started exhibiting symptoms at age 16 (inability to get over the break up with a boyfriend of 1 year).  She married my father at age 19 and was pregnant with me 3 months later.  My entire childhood I was told by her that she did not love my father when she married him, that she felt sorry for him because he cried when she first turned him down, that she was still at that time pining for her lost love.  When she became pregnant with me she ran away and tried to get an abortion.  My family found her and brought her home, where she was subjected to a great many shock treatments while I was in utero (150 according to her, but I know that number is not believable).   However, everything else she has told me was verified by my aunts the past few years.

After I was born she was left alone with me during the day until my grandparents (paternal) realized she was not taking proper care of me, so they helped out caring for me so she could go back to work. After she stopped working (when I was age 2), she could not cope with me.  I was very intelligent and active.  So the doctors tranquilized ME at age 2 so that she could better deal with me.   She taught me to read and write very early, and how to speak French, but she also forced me to eat food I did not want to eat, keeping me up until 1 or 2 am at the table, with me refusing to clean my plate.  This led to live long eating over eating and bulimia that I have just conquered in the past 3 months.

She filled my head my entire childhood with her and my father’s sexual problems (she was obsessed with sex and he was “inadequate”), how I was not wanted by her and how she tried to abort me, and many other things no child should be hearing from their mother, especially at such a tender age (her stories started as far back as I can remember, possibly to age 2 or 3).

My father was a loving person but also a very spoiled only child.  He worked 3 jobs and had two more children with my mother (any lame brain would have stopped at one).  He has never wanted to face the fact of what he subjected his children to.  I still cannot discuss any of this with him.  I can never discuss anything difficult with him.

My sister, born 5 years after me, is less affected, but still made some very horrible choices in her life, and my baby brother, born when I was 10, got the brunt of her insanity on the other end.  

With each pregnancy she would go basically bats and then recover sufficiently to function in between.  There was no warmth from her, just mechanical mothering and fanatical cleaning of the house.  I was given charge of caring for my brother.   We had horrible fights when I was a teenager because I was not what she wanted me to be (who could be with the way she raised me).  I was an overweight recluse for much of my teenage years.  I was very close to my baby brother.  In fact, I mothered both of my siblings, trying to give to them what I did not get from her.  I did not want them to suffer as I did.

When I first started to develop I ended up with attention from grown men that I did not know how to handle. I had no guidance.   I was nearly raped by a neighbor and I started to eat to hide my shape with fat.

I finally lost weight at age 16 and discovered I was a beautiful woman with a very well developed figure.  I then enjoyed the attention I got from men but did not know how to choose the right one for me.  I had such low self esteem I ended up debasing myself time after time with the man who ended up being my first husband (an N) and father of my N son.  I did not feel I had any control over my life even when I knew what was happening to me was not right.

My mother finally started to lose it totally when a series of events occurred in our lives.  My sister became pregnant at 16, my first marriage started to fall apart after only a few months, and her father and grandfather died within a few months of each other.  She started talking about her lost first love again and suffered a full blown psychotic break when I was pregnant and my father did not have the balls (excuse my language, but it is accurate) to make her stay in treatment even though he had the ability to control the situation if he so desired.  I remember begging him to do what he needed to do to get her help but he did have what it takes to do the right thing.

He stayed with my mother for years, through her increasing insanity and disintegration, exposing my then teenage brother to her pawing at him and clinging to him like a lover, her drunken psychotic rages.  I begged him father to leave her for my brother’s sake if he would not get her proper help or have her committed, but his answer was he didn’t want to leave the comfort of his house.  He started to drink along with her. (She drank to stop the voices in her head).  I turned to my brother’s school and our church to get help for my brother (whom I adored) and it woke my father up just a little bit.  I warned both my parents I would take him away and go for custody if I had to if they did not treat him better.  I even got through my crazy mother with that threat, although she told me it was my father that was crazy.  

I spent as much time with my brother as I could, bringing him to my apartment (by this time I was married and pregnant for the second time to a man with N traits who also went nuts later on).  We had a very good time together the summer he turned 16.  Then 2 weeks before his 17th birthday, he was killed in a car wreck a mile from the family home.

That wake and funeral was surreal.  My father made my sister and I take turns sitting with my psycho mother, who wrote in her notebooks and told us that my brother would shortly be getting out of the coffin, etc.  I was completely consumed by grief as this was the closest person to me in the world who had been taken from me.  We had a special relationship.  He was more of a son than a brother to me.  It took me 20 years to finally get over the grief as I was not allowed to experience it the way it needed to be.  I had two small children and a soon to be crazy husband second husband to deal with.

Soon after my mother’s death my father left my mother and after divorcing her married my step mother.  He said he no longer had my brother to “keep him company” so he could not take her raging anymore.  She was left alone in the house we were raised in.

I’m going to stop now.  This story is long and painful.  I’ll write the rest if anyone is interested after I’ve had a bit of time to gather the rest of my thoughts.

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2003, 10:56:30 PM »
Please continue when you are ready.  I am listening.

The pain you have enduring is rendering me speechless.  You have amazing strength to have come this far.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do.

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2003, 11:12:26 PM »
Lizbeth,

I cant say a thing except, I say what hope says.  You are an amazing woman.  One should want half the strength and dignity that you have shown.  Take your time gathering your thoughts and get it all out. at your own pace.  We believe you and welcome the chance to listen and offer support.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2003, 11:12:32 PM »
Just listening to me with such kindness instead of disgust is the best thing I could hope for.  Thank you.  I will post the rest some time tomorrow after work.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2003, 11:13:09 PM »
Lizbeth,

we'll look out for your next post.  We're here for you.

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2003, 11:18:23 PM »
Thankyou ladies, I feel better just having you listen and not turn away.  I will sleep a little better tonight.

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2003, 12:02:24 AM »
Liz,

I know those looks you get when you tell some people your story.  Trust me, I have told some people about my xN and I look at their faces.  I know they are thinking "ya where is the rest of this story, its to bizarre to be true"  

I guess part of the recovery process is realising that just because we have told some who do not believe it could happen, we gave up.  Instead of telling everyone and anyone until we got the support that we needed, we just gave up to avoid more rejection.  That compiles to our guilt.  I used to think maybe he is right, if so and so looked like they didnt believe me, maybe I am not seeing this right.  He was always so perfect in public, noboy knows what goes on behind closed doors.

Liz, it might be hard to talk about it but I bet you it felt like a ton of bricks had been lifted off of your shoulder.  You talk away and we offer you as much support as you need.  Thank you for being brave enough to share it with us.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2003, 06:56:44 PM »
OK, here is part 2 of my story, and it sure isn't pretty:

After my brother died and my father divorced my mother and married my step mother, he left my mother in the house alone to rot.  He provided for her financially (barely), kept the house up (barely) and brought her in liquor and food when she was no longer stable enough to drive (had accidents, of course).

My sister had 3 children, I had two and I lived out of state.  We did what we could for her but I had no love for this woman.  I don’t remember her ever holding me as a child or feeling her love, and I had a hard time feeling anything for her but pity.  While my brother was still alive and a young teenager, she turned against my sister and I and clung to him in the most disgusting manner.  She sided with my second husband when we were divorcing (he didn’t beat you, did he?) and took him in and, I am ashamed to say this but it is true, she ended up sleeping with him.  Two nuts living in a house together.  She threw him out after he put a knife to her throat and then told me how crazy he was.  I had warned her about him but in her Looney and sex starved mind, it didn’t matter what she did to her daughter, she had to have a man around again.

Eventually she focused her attentions on a neighbor across the street from the house.  We had been trying to get her help so when she attacked this poor man with a screw driver and was arrested (thank God he wasn’t badly hurt), we were elated that she would finally be brought to the help that she needed.  The entire neighborhood showed up in court and begged the judge to force her into psychiatric help.  Being a first offender, he was reluctant but he agreed due to the pleas.  She was unfortunately sent for psychoanalysis, which does a schizophrenic no good, and was not legally obliged to take medication.  So it was to no avail.  My sister and I gave up in disgust as we had our own very messy lives to deal with and she quieted down (afraid of being locked up again).

Her final mental deterioration started about the age of 43 and ended when she died at age 67 3 years ago in July.  My father by then had moved far out of state and my sister was away on a vacation with her family.  I did not have contact information.  When a neighbor saw two days of mail in her box and could not reach her on the phone, she called me and my father and we found we could not reach her as well.  It turned out she had a stroke and lay on the floor for 2.  She was taken to the hospital.  As her next of kin, I had to make the decision alone (my sister was away) to set up a DNR as her kidneys started to fail from dehydration.  Imagine how this felt, having to decide this on my own.  

My sister was due to arrive at my father’s house at the end of her trip and he greeted her with “I have to tell you, your mother’s dead, and by the way, the house is mine” the minute she arrived.  He had been paying the mortgage all those years and felt that he could discount the fact that he and my mother were divorced, so half the house belonged to me and my sister as her only heirs.  It was the only thing we had from our mother and he was trying to steal it from us.  When he arrived at my house in preparation for the funeral, the first thing out of his mouth to me was not, sorry about your mother, but “the house is mine, you know.”  Unbelievable and not true, especially because of the few good things my mother did say to me was that when she died, she was happy that half the house would belong to my sister and I.

The funeral was a chance to see our mother as she would have been if she had not gone nuts.  They were able to clean her up (she looked like a bag lady) and dress her properly, and we marveled at the sight of our mother as a normal looking woman for the first time in many years.

My father tried to act like he was still her husband, even though my step mother was there at the wake with him (drunk, by the way, they had both turned into lushes over the years). They had been divorced 20 years by this time.   My sister and I made sure he realized that we were the next of kin and he had to sit in the back of the room.  Another surreal family funeral to get through.  Him making snide comments while we were saying our good-byes to her before they closed the coffin.  Him trying to force us to give him an original copy of the death certificate so he could forge the deed to the house to be only in his name.  We had to hire a lawyer to advise us.  His confrontation of us while cleaning out her house (what a disgusting mess) was something I won’t ever forget, because we would not comply with his wishes.  And this was the father who was supposed to love me!

You can only imagine what a horrible mess that house was with a crazy person living alone in it for 20+ years.  I remember my step mother asking if there were any “antiques” in the house.  Nothing in that house belonged to her or my father, he had divorced her and left her to rot.  Death sure does bring out the worst in people.   Fortunately, he realized he had no chance of forcing us to give in so when the house was sold 3 months later, my sister and I did get a share of the proceeds, though we willingly gave him more than we had to for the sake of his feelings

I had to go into therapy shortly after my mother’s death. Not so much because of her behavior towards me, but because of my father’s betrayal.  I was so angry that my husband and sister and brother in law talked me into going to get rid of my anger.  I ended up forgiving my mother (she could not possibly have loved me any more than she did, she was not at fault, she was truly ill) and eventually my father, who was truly the one at fault.  I could only forgive him because I loved him or it would destroy me.  He would not be able to bear what I had to say to him.  He was an emotional coward his entire life.

Several months later my therapist kicked me out after thinking I was ok and that he had conquered my bulimia.  I was just lying to him about that, I was not ready to give up that nasty habit just yet.  Since then I did discover that even thought I have forgiven my father, I have not been able to get rid of the need to tell him just what hell he put all 3 of his kids through by his lack of action at all the important times of our lives.  Hence my feelings of voicelessness.

This now leads me to the reason why I have been researching N’s for the past 6 months in the first place, the behavior of my oldest son.

More later.  This is so hard to do, hope it makes sense.

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2003, 08:53:02 PM »
I am still listening so feel free to keep going.

You said you still felt the need to talk to your father about the way he treated you, but did you actually do it?

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2003, 09:04:04 PM »
Lizbeth,

Thank you for sharing this with us.  It means alot to know that you trust us with your life experiences.  Thank you.  

I do not know what to say.  I sit here and I can not help but think about that little girl you used to be, I can not help but think about all of the thoughts and feelings that you must have experienced during this madness.  I often wonder something and I will state this and hope I do not stir up a pot over this one.  But I have to wonder why God would let little innocent children suffer like that little girl inside you had to.  I know everyone says that something good comes out of every bad situation.  What good could a child see during those chaotic years?  

You stated you had so much anger towards your dad.  Your anger is right in your writings.  The reason is right here hun and it is the exact reason I get angry at my dad.  

My father was a loving person but also a very spoiled only child. He worked 3 jobs and had two more children with my mother (any lame brain would have stopped at one). He has never wanted to face the fact of what he subjected his children to. I still cannot discuss any of this with him. I can never discuss anything difficult with him.

As a parent you owe your children a safe environment and nurturing to lead them into adulthood.  It is nothing that you gave them life, how many times did you hear that Liz?  They gave you life, ya well big ars deal.  You did not ask to be born.  They gave you life they OWED you the pleasure of living a peaceful, safe and sane one.  

Do you feel anger at your dad because he chose to save himself and leave the madness, but he also chose to leave you behind in it?  You have every right to liz.  He should as a parent want this for his children, he should not have ever had to be asked to rescue you.  That is a parental responsibility to give their children safety and security.  That is not a luxury it is a necessity.  You have every right to be angry with him.  The only person hurting for your pain is you.  He did not care back then and he sure in the hell does not care now.  He can make all of the excuses that he wants.  There just is no excuse for his behavior.

I also can not help but wonder if maybe he began to drink to drown out all of the guilt he was feeling.  You know dull the senses so he would not have to think of the hell you kids were living in.  I have heard from many that there is no hell hotter than the one in a drunks head.  He did not live a wonderful life when he left, he didnt live life at all.  It did not give him the right to take yours away as he fled.

You shared the part about your mom sleeping with....well.....I know how that feels, I also know how it feels to have these people look you in the eye and try to accuse your actions for their actions, and I remember asking myself  why me?. Although I have no proof, I really do not think I wanted it either.

 That is sick for many reasons not just the fact that it happened.  It shows that your mom did not know boundaries so they were crossed many times with little acknowledgment of her actions, if any.  Any time a person violates us we feel betrayed, hurt, and so on.  I just have to wonder what coping skills a person has to pull out to prevent their self from having a total breakdown during times like you described.  

Your mom never realised what her life was like.  Mentally she was dysfunctional and I doubt she even knew the damage she subjected you kids to.  Your dad had every one of his faculties in place but chose to not put them in action.  You have every right to feel angry, you have every right to mourn the childhood you lost from them, and you have every right to want him to take responsibility for his actions.  You deserve it from him, he probably does not feel he owes it, his actions(or should I say lack of his actions) says volumes about what he thinks you deserve and do not deserve.

May god have mercy on his soul if he ever requires care as he gets older.  All of that love he held from you at times you needed him the most, will come back to haunt him.  It is a privelage to have children.  They just could never get past us being a chore could they?  I got past feeling like a burden to my mom.  So I can honestly say that if she needs me in her older years, to damn bad.  I needed her throughout my life.  Where was she then?  It took me many years to think of the exact words to describe how I felt about this situation.  I got it, you get what you give, nothing more, nothing less.  

If I shed a tear for her, it will be for the mother I should have had, not the one that was present all along.  Liz, you did not ask to be born.  You were a gift just as any child is.  They chose to ignore the fact that they gave you life yet refused to allow you live a good one.  Your dad and your dad alone will answer for his actions.  I refuse to allow my mom to make my life as miserable as hers was.  I cut my losses and learned what I would never be as a mother because of that woman.  

You are a very strong person who lived through a very warped family.  It doesnt seem fair but for some reason we were brought into these families.  Well we have the right and the ability to leave them too.  Not just leave the peaple, we have the strength to leave them emotionally.  I did and I rarely look back.  

I do not call my mom mom.  I call her Judy.  She made reference to that one day.  I said what do you want me to call you, she said well I am your mom.  I turned, looked at her and I said, you are just now realising that?  Where the F** were you 34 yrs ago?  You sure in the hell couldnt remember it back then.  She said we all make mistakes Mindy, I said yup we sure do, see not only did you forget you were my mom, you forgot that I was allowed mistakes too.  Your memory got better as you got older didnt it Judy?  

Even though she knows she stunk as a mom, never one time has she ever stated the fact.  I quit waiting for it and that was when I began to leave her voice out of my head.  I would not call her mom because she did not deserve the title.  

If she ever dares to dispute me when I speak like that to her.  I now dare to speak freely to assist her in the many reasons why I dare talk to her like that.  I deserved better and so did you.  What they need to do is be responsible for their actions.  It just doesnt happen and I had to find peace with it any way I could.  It taught me what I wanted to be like as a mother.  It taught me that I never wanted to be my mom.  I believed I could do it and I proved I could.  My kids grew up knowing they were loved and I considered it a gift to have them.  I never made them feel guilty about the time and effort it took to have them.  More then I ever had as a child and you know how that feels.  

You are brave to let it out here Liz.  To let the story out is to let the deamons out of your head.  Get um all out.  You deserve some peace.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2003, 09:09:27 PM »
I did try several times over the past 10 years or so, and he would stop me, saying he didn't want to hear it, he couldn't take it, etc.  He has be come an alcoholic and after years of drinking has early stages of liver disease and has recently been diagnosed with enlarged veins in his throat and esophgeous (however you spell that), called varacise, which can rupture at any time (this is also as a result of the liver disease).  Obviously, I can't push him very far in this state.  Even a bad coughing fit can cause the veins to rupture.  He can bleed to death in a matter of moments.

Just another sad thing to add to my story.  There is so much more.  Like my 3 nieces all having auto-immune disorders (lupus, Hashimotos Hypothyroidism, and ITP. The niece with ITP has an autistic child.  And then there is my 46 year old brother in law dying of lung cancer this past May.  Which leads me directly to why I needed to find out information on my oldest son, the N, who didn't show up for his uncle's funeral and we have not heard from him since that day when he said he was on his way to the airport.

It is exhausting to try to put it all i the right order so I am doing it a little at a time, otherwise I will end up giving up and going away.

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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2003, 09:45:09 PM »
Jaded, I mourned for the mother I should have had when she died.  It is almost worse than losing someone you love, mourning for the love you never had.   Even though your mother is alive, I know how you feel. The shattering of my image of my father as someone I could look up to and admire, rely on, etc. , is even harder to bear.

When I was a little girl, I thought that I loved my mother, but as I grew older I thought that there was something wrong with me because I did not love her.  It had to be some defect in my character.  When I had to make that DNR decision, I actually had to have my husband say it to the doctor because all I could do was hide my face in my hands and groan at the weight of that decision.  He conveyed my wishes without my having to say the words, it was impossible for me to do so.  I was afraid that my aunts (my mother's sisters) would think that I killed my mother, because I did not love her.  I did the right thing despite this heavy weight on me and they did not blame me for it.  However, I told my sister that she was never to go away again without telling me how to reach her.  

When I was in therapy, the doctor told me that it was amazing to him that my sister and I succeeded in life as much as we have.  Most people would have crumbled under the same circumstances.  Of course, it has left lasting scars that are coming out more and more now that my life is not in turmoil and I don't have to constantly be on guard for disaster.  All you think about when you are in a terrible situation is just surviving.  There is no time for anything else.  The therapist also relieved me of the burden of feeling guilty for not loving my mother.  He said, she did not love you, could not, how could you be expected to love her? When he told me I was a nice person despite what I had gone through, it was the first time I believed it in my entire life.  I cried like a baby.  I have never felt good about myself until he said that to me.

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2003, 05:02:13 AM »
I undrestand how you must have felt Liz as a child.  I was fortunate enough to have my best friends mother there for me.  She gave me alot of strength and coping skills.  I have thanked her many times for being there for me.

I have to wonder why there were no family members who came to your defense at that time Liz. Actually were there no neighbors around to witness this and to try to put a stop to the madness?

Liz there are so many ways that we are all wronged throughout our lifetime for reasons I have yet to understand.  If we become ammune to this we allow it continue because we lose the ability to fend it off.  I dont know how we made it through our childhoods emotionally.  What gave us the ability to atleast manage the situation?  My situation was not as threatening as yours.  I can only imagine what you thought of at night while you pondered about what tomorrow would bring.

I came to the conclusion that there are just some people who should have not had children.  My mom happened to be one of them.  It amases me how many people in this world want nothing more then to have a child but they cant.  Our moms took for granted what those people would do anything to have, Children.  You have to wonder about some things dont ya??

You are showing a great deal of strenght Liz talking about it.  I applaud you.   :wink:
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2004, 09:54:24 PM »
I've had a hard time posting since I wrote that, and read Jaded's responses.  It was overwhelming to me.  It was so exhausting just writing it, I never even got to the story about my N son.  Someday I hope to do that.  I read this message board every day, even though I don't post much.  

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