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« on: June 01, 2005, 09:56:41 AM »
Hi guys this is Bloopsy. I am just writing to take some of the power awway from the pig parent voice inside of me that is always critisizing me for being so scared as I am and I feel like I have every right to be just as scared as I am and that if anyone doesn't like it they can go to hell. I feel very afraid most of all that I am to be abandoned by myself again and the scary feeling that I never learned to be there for mysaelf and stuff.. Also the critical pig head in me uses everything against me so I am also afraid to really look at anything. Big Bridget, the oldest of us, is not very strong and I think that we are all frozen. I hear the critical voice and it is saying why can't you just blah blah blah. I feel like I am being pounded over the head every time I come up for air and guess what it makes me scared angry and terrified. Every time we feel abandoned the fozen fear gets to be more. I admit that I thought that I could be "strong". and go on and try to have relationships with my family and with other people but I don't really think that I can do that so well so much. Also, every time that I think I "have to " give up coffe and cigarettes,  I get really scared and only drink and smoke them more. It doesn'tr work to shame myself I am not a monster so much as I am scared out of my mind with all of theese things coming to fly and land on my head. And it makes it really confusing because of the pig parent inside of me who always wants to say, but it's your fault really, isn't it? I am flailing around inside my heart waving a white flag but think that it is getting so scary when my imagination makes athe white flag covered in blood. Last night I woke up and got to feeling like my mom was standing over me with a butcher knife, and I don't know if it was the mother voice inside me or if that is a real fear from growing up with my mom, how it felt to be around her knowing she was not there for me. I was really scared and I wanted to talk to someone but I din't do that. I was trying to " be strong". But in my heart I know that that is not strength it is emotional violence aganst myself to be so scared and to tell myself that I have to be strong, because that soesn't mean anything to me except "disapear" .  Another thing the pig parent whatever, I think I will just go ahead and call it the perpetrator within because that is how it feels like to me, and someti mes these days I feel like my life is flashing in front of my eyes. Iam sorry that this is so gory and anyone who is gored out I am sorry. I am very afraid and remembered that I went to a psychic and he told me that he saw blood and knives in my future. Part of me just wants to say then well that's the way it is we can just accept it for now. But I heard that if you don't like what a psychic says you can change your fate and destiny. I wonder if it is good just to say well that is the way that it was. Masybe then it won't have so much power? That ok, it's true that things were that bad and felt that bad and still do. I am sorry if this is what it is which is a not so niuce thing to read but that is the way it is for now so that is what is true inside? My pig parent inner perpetrator is very rejecting and rejects me at every turn. in the road that comes by. Big Bridget tries to intervene but she is not so strong as all that. Sometimes it seems very dark. Anything negative it wants to throw at me and I feel like it is written all over my body and all over my hear and soul. I admit to being very scared since I remembered aboput my dad hurting me because I know that I was seeking him out in other people currently and that he was my heroe, also that he was my angel and higher power.  In the incest survivors pamphlet that I have it says athat we all do that. This is a long post I know. Just thinking that maybe that if I say maybe that I disowned myself onto him? That it felt like I had to? Well no matter the reason that is what I did. Thank you for being here this is helping me to talk myself down from that cliff I think maybe it is an inner cliff. What other kind of cliff would it be. One time I was waking up a cliff with my friends, knowing that it was dangerous, and kept dropping our supplies down the ravine so that I wouldn't drop off the cliff and go splat. Like, there goes the water, there goes the whatever. Is it true that a lot of people would kind of go hysterical being so scared? It seems to me like it is pretty normal. I hate it. what a ripoff. I feel so alone and my friends are graduating from schooll and getting jobs and I feel like I am sitting alone in a cave. Sorry if that sounds over dramatic. I think that I am dropping piece by peice down the cliff because it is hard for me to carry everything and remember anything. Please can no one say anything mean or shaming about this post?

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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2005, 10:21:36 AM »
I am sorry for such a scary and icky post. Please can someone delete the post? I am sorry guys.

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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 10:33:54 AM »
Hiya Bloopsy!

Good to see you posting here and getting your feelings out!  That's a good thing!  Much better than holding them in or trying to push them away eh?

Your feelings of fear and idea about a perpetrator in your head made me think of my latest dream (see thread called:  "Dreams Anyone?").

It's as if you are swimming toward the bad guy, who will only hurt you, while your friend/saviour--fear.....is trying to stop you.  Maybe the fear isn't such a bad thing?  Maybe it's telling you not to go along with the perpetrator's voice/words?  Maybe it is warning you that that voice is bad and it's telling you not to listen to it?

Here's my voice Bloopsy:

YOU ARE A NICE PERSON.
YOU ARE GOOD INSIDE.
YOU ARE TAKING AWAY THE POWER OF THAT PERPETRATOR.
YOU ARE LEARNING TO BE THERE FOR YOURSELF.
YOU CAN.
YOU ARE CAPABLE OF DOING GOOD THINGS FOR YOU AND FOR OTHERS.
YOUR FEELINGS OF ANGER AND FEAR ARE VALID.
YOU CAN TAKE THEM AS A WARNING NOT TO LISTEN TO THAT MEAN VOICE.
THAT MEAN VOICE IS WRONG.

YOU WILL GIVE UP COFFEE AND CIGARETTES WHEN YOU FEEL READY.
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS NOT YOUR FAULT.
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS NOT YOUR FAULT.
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU WAS NOT YOUR FAULT.

THERE IS NO GUILT OR SHAME ON YOUR HEAD, IT BELONGS TO THE PERPETRATOR/S WHO HARMED YOU.

YOU ARE ONLY HUMAN SO THAT MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE STRONG ALWAYS.
YOU ARE DOING A GOOD THING BY SEEKING SUPPORT WHEN YOU FEEL THE NEED.

THE WHITE FLAG, THE BLOOD....ARE NOT REAL.
WHAT'S REAL IS THAT YOU ARE GOOD AND PEACEFUL AND GENTLE.
IT'S OK TO BE AFRAID.
YOU ARE VERY BRAVE FOR NOT LETTING THE FEAR RULE.

GOOD THINKING TO SAY:  "WELL MAYBE THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS".
YOU ARE TAKING AWAY THE POWER OF THOSE THOUGHTS ABOUT GORY STUFF  THAT WAY.

YOU ARE REJECTING YOUR PERPETRATOR TOO--BY SPEAKING AND REACHING OUT!
GOOD FOR YOU!
YOU ARE BUSY HEALING RIGHT NOW AND YOU WILL FINISH SCHOOL, GET A JOB, LATER, WHEN YOU ARE READY.
YOU ARE A SURVIVOR AND I AM PROUD OF YOU!!

GFN

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 10:34:30 AM »
Hiya Bridget and the gang, not so good today?

It’s not your fault. It’s not your fault. FACT! You didn’t make any of it happen. Not your fault. Children are innocent, always. Not your fault!

I believe you can change. I changed. I believe in change. I have hope and I have hope for you. I do :D .

Even if you do drop things down the internal cliff Bloops, you won’t die. It’ll be okay. Being scared of the unknown is a terrible fear. If you are dropping things off your internal cliff, maybe that’s good, letting go of the bad things that happened to you perhaps. I don't know.

Your post is fine, it’s eloquent, it’s right for you and I want to read you. The more you write, the more you know yourself maybe. And the stronger you are. You didn’t say anything bad to say here. It’s all okay.

Please don’t have the post deleted? You’ve nothing to be sorry about. True! Sending my love to you B. (((((((((B and the gang)))))))))

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 10:35:17 AM »
Hiya Bloopsy.  I didn't find your post scarey or icky, although I do feel very, very sad that you are having to deal with such a lot of nasty stuff.  It really is so unfair, when you are such a caring, gentle soul.  You deserve far better, and far more.

As for having knives and blood in your future, well, we all have that.  Unless we are vegetarians, that is, when we will have knives and potato peelings instead.  :?   Don't let that worry you, please.  You still have the choice, and you are stronger than you know.  Except reading that myself, I know it would not always help to read it.  Words are just not enough, sometimes. :?

Saying a prayer for you every day.

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 10:36:56 AM »
(((((Bloopsy))))) and (((((GFN)))))

sorry GFN didn't see you posting up there and wanted to say hi and hugs

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2005, 10:40:48 AM »
Me either P.

Same ((((((((P)))))))   ((((((B and gang))))

GFN

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 11:48:28 AM »
Hi Bridget, Bloopsy and the gang,

I guess that you're afraid one of the pig parents will get angry and punish you for telling us what's going on. We like you and we won't be mean. I wonder if your therapist knows that you're suffering from all the mean voices putting you down. Keep posting. We're your friends here.

bunny

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2005, 12:48:15 PM »
Thank you GFN Portia and Bunny for being there for me. Hi. This is Bridget. I think that I feel so bad because I am bad. I admit that it is true that I just feel like I am bad and I must be bad because I felt so bad for so long and haven't been able to help my kids or myself that there must be something really bad about me that I am like that. The only thing I know how to do is listen to the pig parent anymore and someone so bad is not able to get better and it is no fair to my kids. I am so mad at  myself for being so bad and such a bad mother to my kids and myself and when I am like this then I can't be good to anyone. I admit that I think that I am bad and I feel like I am bad and thinking + feeling is too much. That is what is going on with me. I admit that I feel like it is true. It helps some bits to talk about it I guess but it feels like I am going to be punished and then inside threre is a part inside that is like well that is how it has always been you are just older now so you can't hide it from yourself thinking that you will grow out of it move tto a small town. Well anyway that seems like some small part inside went to the park yesterday and then I felt like I was being hauled to the woods to be buried by my own self. I am in denial about that but it is true.

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2005, 01:14:00 PM »
Hi Bridget, glad you kept your post.

When you are like this you feel you can’t be good to anyone? Especially you can’t be a good mother to your internal kids?

So you (or the bad guy?) beats you up for – basically – not coping? Not being strong for yourself?

Is that correct?

You don’t have to be strong for your internal kids. You are your kids. You are all together in this remember. Your kids, your gang, they’re all you and the strong Bridget doesn’t have to take care of all of you, all the time. As long as you are you – and not one of your abusers telling you awful stuff in your head  - you’ll be okay.

We can’t be strong every day. Some days we feel weak and need to talk and let it out. That’s okay. Some days the internal kids need to cry and feel scared. That’s okay too, because it’s only one day, everything changes.

Being older doesn’t mean you have to cope alone, it doesn’t mean you’re ‘bad’ either. Have you seen your therapist recently? Now might be a good time – what do you think?

You’re not bad. You’re upset, angry, sad, and a load of other things – but none of those feelings or thoughts are bad. Bad is harming other people (like what happened to you). It didn’t happen to you because you were bad. It happened because the other people did bad things. You were, and still are, innocent and good. You were very unlucky. It was very unfair. There’s no reason for people to have hurt you, but it happened. I’m so sorry. You didn’t deserve any of it. It just happened.

We love you Bridget, and the gang. We want you to not feel bad about yourself. Because we don’t see any part of you as bad.  Be easy on yourself. Being good doesn’t mean being perfect either. You can be just you and still be lovable and loved. Got to go for now, keep posting (((B))), Portia

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2005, 01:24:04 PM »
Hi again B:

I don't think you're bad.  I think you're good.   I also think you might be listening to an old tape???  One that says:  "You're bad".  

A way to work on stopping that tape and getting rid of that tape is a two step trick, if you ask me.

1.  Argue with that tape.  Say:  "No I'm not!!  I am good!!  Go away!  I won't listen to you anymore!  I don't have to.  I'm making a new tape!"

and

2.  Make a new tape, by telling yourself these things, over and over, every day and every time that old tape tries to play.  New tape:

I AM A NICE PERSON.
I AM GOOD INSIDE.
I AM TAKING AWAY THE POWER OF THAT PERPETRATOR.
I AM LEARNING TO BE THERE FOR MYSELF.
I CAN.
I AM CAPABLE OF DOING GOOD THINGS FOR MYSELF AND FOR OTHERS AND FOR MY CHILDREN.
MY FEELINGS OF ANGER AND FEAR ARE VALID.
THEY ARE A WARNING NOT TO LISTEN TO THAT MEAN VOICE, THAT OLD TAPE.
THAT MEAN VOICE IS WRONG.
I AM VALUABLE AND WORTHY AND GOOD.

I WILL WORK ON CHANGING ONE HABIT AT A TIME,  WHEN I FEEL READY.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS NOT MY FAULT.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS NOT MY FAULT.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WAS NOT ME FAULT.

THERE IS NO GUILT OR SHAME ON MY HEAD, IT BELONGS TO THE PERPETRATOR/S WHO HARMED ME.

I AM ONLY HUMAN SO THAT MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO BE STRONG ALWAYS.
I AM DOING A GOOD THING BY SEEKING SUPPORT WHEN I FEEL THE NEED.
I WILL KEEP DOING THAT.

THE BAD THOUGHTS....ARE NOT REAL.
WHAT'S REAL IS THAT I AM GOOD AND PEACEFUL AND GENTLE.
IT'S OK TO BE AFRAID.
I AM VERY BRAVE FOR NOT LETTING THE FEAR RULE.

GOOD THINKING TO SAY: "WELL MAYBE THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS".
I AM TAKING AWAY THE POWER OF THOSE NASTY THOUGHTS THAT WAY.

I AM REJECTING MY PERPETRATOR/S TOO--BY SPEAKING AND REACHING OUT!
GOOD FOR ME!
I AM BUSY HEALING RIGHT NOW AND I WILL FINISH SCHOOL, GET A JOB, LATER, WHEN I AM READY.
I AM A SURVIVOR AND I AM PROUD OF ME!!
I WILL HEAL AND THAT IS MY GOAL, WHICH I WILL ACHIEVE.

I know there are different parts of you B and gang and that this is a repeat, sort of.   We do learn by repeating stuff.  And all parts of you will hear and benefit by hearing/reading/saying/writing the above new tape!
Maybe you will write/print it out, read it, say it, work on repeating it enough times for it to be louder than the old tape?  I hope so!!

(((((((((B and gang)))))))

GFN

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2005, 01:51:59 PM »
I wonder if it could be ok for now just to tell myself I'm not thAT bad? That was what I was saying on the way to the store. I want to do the other affirmations GFN but I don't konow if I can--- yet maybe I am not THAT bad is all I can manage for now and then the other ones later???? It  helps Portia to think of my kids as me and that we can all have our own identity like my therapist said. I admi tthat when I think " I have 4 children to take care of I get really scared and frozen. But it's true/not true? Sometimes I admit that I wish there was no more words in the slapping of words onto me by me/? to do maybe just say I am not that bad for now. A little boy gave me a rock at the store and  I felt to myself that maybe that was the universe telling me something, I know that may sound arrogant thinking that it would, or does it. well it does give me hope to hold the rock in my hand.It is 1:50 here. Maybe I can say I am not that bad and I do not deserve to be punished. Actuall y saying that I am not that bad maybe is the littlest and managable. Inside my tummy it is saying I'm soooo bad, and maybe this will help that for the tummy part.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2005, 02:04:35 PM »
Hiya B:

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I am not that bad and I do not deserve to be punished.


That's a good start!

The theory is.....that positive statements are even more powerful so you might consider saying:

"I am good and I deserve to take care of me".

 If you can manage it, it might be even better.  But at least by saying:  I'm not that bad.  You are doing step 1, which is arguing with that old tape, that mean voice!!

Way to go!!!  

And all those affirmations!!  You want to do them??  Good for you!!!

You can do one per day, per week, per hour, per minute....whatever you decide.  Your goal is to do them and that's a good goal.  Who says you have to do it all today???  

But I love to see you write that you want to do them and that you have argued with that mean voice on the way to the store!!  That is great!!

Also......I love the little boy giving you the rock!  What a nice gift!!  Strong and hard and solid and not easy to break!!  That was just the most loving thing wasn't it?

Hold onto that rock B!!!  It's really a special rock!!  A gift from an angel maybe?  Is it a pretty rock?  What colour is it??

Keep going B and posting.  And arguing with that silly mean voice/tape and working on making a new nice, kind, loving, voice/tape.

The absolute minimum is you are good and you do deserve to take care of you!

GFN

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2005, 02:12:15 PM »
Hi Bridget and the gang,

Right, you don't have four kids to care for. They are all aspects of yourself. They may clamor for attention but you don't have to give it to them every time. They will be okay. We don't think you're bad.

bunny

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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2005, 02:45:00 PM »
Hi Bridget.  You have grown amazingly since you started posting here.  Look at what you do now that you didn't do before.  You recognize the nasty voice is NOT YOU!  That is a huge step!  It is someone or something else talking, it is not you.  My nasty voices ALWAYS lie.  They NEVER, EVER tell me the truth.  They wouldn't have to be all nasty and whisper if they did.

Another step is that you don't like what the nasty voices say.  Good, I'm glad you disagree with them.  Maybe you don't see it as disagreeing, but it is.  Even when you think you agree.

Another step is that you are starting to see the possibility that your kids are really just more parts of you and you have ALL the parts you need.  In my experience, my kids ALWAYS try to help me.  Sometimes they are not too good at it and end up causing other problems, but they ALWAYS try to help.  It isn't just Big Bridget taking care of your kids, they take care back.

Saying "Maybe I am not so bad," is a great start!  Take tiny steps when you are ready for them.  Some days I am ready to take steps and some days I am not.  Some days I am resting and getting ready for the next (huge) tiny step.  Big Bridget gets stronger every time you post, every time you consider something new, every time you dislike the nasty voices, and every day.  I have already seen her grow a lot here.

Keep posting.  Let those feelings out in words.  You can't hurt anyone here, they are just words.  You are doing a great job of learning how to take care of yourself.  Keep up your good work!

(((((((((((Bidget)))))))))))
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