breaches....of conduct; shame; guilt in context of narcissism

[@#gnostic]

since there is not as of yet a thread about ceeme
and what her typology and other concerns..
and that what originally started in the other forum...
.. i forget the full name of the tread
but something about personality tests
...
and since i had posted some things in that thread
i will add some of that here with possibly some comments:
Re: personalityTESTS,BOOKS,ETC
« Reply #9 on: Today at 02:22:22 PM »   

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hi ceeme
i see u were active in a thread in other forum
where there was much talk about me as gnostic..

i wanted to add about if u be a n
that a trick of narcissist is to make the other feel as if they are the narcissist
... and the longer they stay in the trap
.. an increase of complexes and systems
can tend to hold them there
and even after they think they have broken free

in enneagram types type 9 is thought of unique by some
in that all the other 8 are in some systems what is called inequable temperaments
but type 9 is the only equable temperament
and they can have major paralysis of will issues
and have periods of shyness and avoidance...
and equable here in this system means have the best sense of all
the other types and can be suffer insight overload
that can develop into periods of will paralysis...

the types that also have will paralysis are types 4 and 5

in enneagram types
and their are assessment tests online...
google to your hearts content:)
i would speculate u could be a 9 with what is called a 1 wing
or a 9 with a 1

NOW MY COMMENTS WOULD BE SOME OF WHAT I HAVE
RECENTLY READ MAKES ME LEAN MAYBE AWAY A BIT FROM
ENNEAGRAM TYPE 9 OR 1
AND THAT IT MIGHT PROVE INTERESTING IF CEEME
IS NOT A N
WHAT MAKES HER THINK SO
AND THEN THERE THE ASPECT THAT THO I THINK
THAT UNDERSTANDING ELEMENTS OF TYPES AND PATTERNS
CAN BE HELPFUL... THEY ARE NOT ESSENTIAL AT ALL TIMES
AND SOMETIMES MIGHT EVEN BE MORE AVOIDED THAN
SOUGHT AS MEANS TO CLARIFY ISSUES...
but in the end i there will be more kinds of things
showing the power of types in human understanding
and also how such can be abused or not necessarily
helpful in all stages...
oh did i mention that i have gotten into some
of ken wilbur's stuff as having some interesting helpful perspectives
but some things that gnostic might point out as......

[Dr. Richard Grossman]

Gnostic,

I asked you to use one name for all subsequent posts—but you were unable to abide by my request.  I am blocking further posts and locking the ones you began today.  If you are able, in the future, to participate using one screen name, please e-mail me.

Richard   

[Portia]

Dr G, has this something to do with the email question?



Gnostic, I looked at the locked topics and want to say:

well u know
in other words
kill the messenger

If you see yourself purely as a messenger, how can we think that you are here to discuss anything? Being a messenger doesn’t fit the board’s stated purpose and that’s a bit like walking up a freeway the wrong way: you will get run over at some point!

oops maybe this belongs to ramble cafe

If you do come back, maybe we can discuss ramble café. Ramble meant a lot to me: please don’t denigrate it if you do return.

[Dr. Richard Grossman]

Hi Portia,

"Dr G, has this something to do with the email question?" 

No--only for the reason above.

Best,

Richard