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The Dr Phil Show
« on: May 09, 2006, 07:53:34 AM »
Hi

I just wondered if anyone here watches or watched Dr Phil yesterday.

There was a couple on who had 5 children.  The eldest boy, age 10, was badly abused by his "mother" and "father," as well as the 9 year old daughter.  The son got the brunt of the abuse though.  Even while the woman beat him and he begged for mercy, that his knee was hurt, the lady kept beating him, saying "I'll show you HURT...now quit your crying!"  The more the boy cried from the pain this monster-lady inflicted on him, the more she hurt him.  Finally, while he limped toward the door for school, she kicked him.  It was horrid to see and horrid to know that it was going on and is in countless homes.

Dr Phil told the "mother" that she was torturing her child while he begged for mercy and that there was no reason for that.  He talked to the "father" who beats the children with a board, and finally decided to send the children home with him as their supervisor to protect them from the "mother."

Dr Phil talked to the children, too, and they begged him to "take away the board."  He assured them that he was having the father send the board to him, so he could destroy it.  The children said they were afraid to say anything to Dr Phil.  He gave the girl a hug and shook the boy's hand, assuring that they would be safe and there would be no more abuse.  However, he told the "father" to keep things steady until he could get intervention there.  I couldn't believe it!!!  He sent the children HOME with the abusers!!!!

Most people who wrote into the Dr Phil show, were FURIOUS, including ME.  I know the effects of hidden abuse first-hand, not to mention the after-effect of having told someone with the abuser being aware of it!  Those poor children!!!

Anyway,
I have a big heart for abuse victims, and the first thing that needed to be done, is to remove those children from that home!

Laura


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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2006, 08:16:37 AM »
Hi Laura

This is really horribly shocking!! 

I know the effects of hidden abuse first-hand, not to mention the after-effect of having told someone with the abuser being aware of it!

If you would like to share this…. I would like to hear it, however no pressure and if you don’t want to, that is fine also.

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2006, 08:57:21 AM »
Really,
I saw the show too and was horrified he sent them home with the father in charge. I mean, they said the father only kicked them with the SIDE of his steel-toed boots.

(I think Dr. P gave the father extra credit for his mano-a-mano handshake promise...I didn't. Good for you for writing in.)

Horrifying. And beautiful kids. Broke my heart to see the faces of the 3 y/os and the baby when the abuse was going on.

Hops

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2006, 09:08:42 AM »
Hops,

Yes, that handshake didn't prove anything!  That annoyed me too...a simple empty promise could convince Dr Phil of an abusers intent to protect children, while HE was an abuser too?  Give me a break!

Laura

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2006, 09:14:01 AM »
well that's Dr Phil for you; simple solutions to complex problems simply don't work in my experience...


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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2006, 10:06:58 AM »
no I did not see the show (I do not watch TV but i do know who the good doctor is)
I too am sick at  the thought of those kids going home with someone who is insane
I too know what it is like to be at home with on going abuse
Children that have no voice and  are powerless
I believe it is how abuse might be created in the abused Seeking the power they never had as children or the abused allow themselves to be beaten under again Trying to please and get love from someone who cant give it
For myself i believe it is how i ended up with an N
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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2006, 10:08:47 AM »
((((ReallyMe))))

Yes, I saw the show. Acutually I was thinking of you, wondering if you caught it also. I was shaken to the core for those children. The abuse and denial was sick to watch.
What the **** was he thinking sending those kids back in that home of horror. I'm scared to death for them, I hope someone and believe honestly that this abuse cannot be ignored for one more minute.
Someone take those kids and run. Save their lives NOW before it's to late!

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2006, 04:09:12 PM »
I am a teacher, and in this state, and I think all others, I am considered a "mandatory reporter", which means that I am legally bound to report, to the police, any POSSIBLE abuse. I am not to investigate it, but if I do not report it, I can be sent to jail. This  is real and very, very  serious.
Mental health professionals are also mandatory reporters.

So I want to know how Dr. Phil is avoiding prosecution for not reporting this to law enforcement immediately. Is showbiz truly on a different planet?


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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2006, 05:36:04 PM »
During the show Dr. Phil explained to the parents that he was required by law to report the family to CPS. And he has reiterated that many times on his program over the years. He doesn't look for quick fixes. He develops long term care for those who participate on his show and he does updates to see if progress is continuing or if further intervention is needed. He is a strong advocate for children and would never put a child in a dangerous situation.

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2006, 06:02:26 PM »
Well, likn, then I guess I need to clean my ears and eyes out, because I distinctly saw and heard him say to the so-called father, "Do I have your word that you will keep these girls away from her until we can get intervention in there?" and they shook on it.  You don't ask an ABUSER to guard children they abuse.  I do hope I"m wrong and you are right this time, however, because the next time it might be one of the grown daughters on his show, telling him that her big brother was killed by the abusive "father" or something.  Just unbelieveable!

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2006, 10:33:55 PM »
I don't believe for a split second that Dr Phil is doing what he does for ratings nor showbiz.  The man has a real concern for people and wants them to learn how to help themselves.

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 05:23:19 PM »
I don't believe for a split second that Dr Phil is doing what he does for ratings nor showbiz.  The man has a real concern for people and wants them to learn how to help themselves.

i think dr phil could be beyond narcissist
to a very slick psychopath...

but dont let that sway you,
but perhaps read a bio on him
THE MAKING OF DR.PHIL

The Making of Dr. Phil: The Straight-Talking True Story of Everyone's Favorite Therapist (Hardcover)
by  Sophia Dembling, Lisa Gutierrez

NOW A PASTE OF SOME AMAZON REVIEWS OF THE BOOK
Reviewer:
JW "JW" (LA) - See all my reviews
I just finished reading this book, "The Making Of Dr. Phil" which is an excellent book, and I recommend it to everyone who wants to see what the Wizard Of Oz looks like behind curtain.
It paints a clear picture of the kind of person Dr. Phil really is, a hypocrite! What is interesting is that this book did not receive much publicity, as there is an alleged campaign against the book by Phil, and most media outlets refused to interview the writers for fear of retaliation from Phil. It also shows that Phil is really just an expert psychological manipulator and a very aggressive entrepreneur. Here are some random bullet points I picked out of the book, it's a worthwhile read...pick it up now!

Phil is not a therapist, and never really was. He hated doing therapy. He went into psychology as a way to make money. He is an expert negotiator, businessman. He is no longer even a licensed psychologist. Phil just uses psychology as a way to make money. He quit practice and went into the Court business, as that was a way he could use psychology as a weapon, and as a way to make a lot of money, and not have to deal with all these dumb people with their problems!

Phil has quite a sordid past. His first Gym business went bankrupt, and there is lots of evidence that he was still selling to people, when they knew it was going under. They were just spending all the money that came in, and were not putting the money into the health club. They had people buy long-term contracts, and then sold these contracts to 3rd parties, and even after the gym went under, those folks STILL has to keep paying for it! This was based on a tricky contract Phil designed. After that company went under, Phil left in the middle of the night, and to this day the people who got shafted are still bitter about what happened.

 His first marriage was a disaster, he was controlling, abusive, and there were all sorts of charges of endless womanizing. His first wife speaks out very clearly on all of this.
 "You Seminars" which became Pathways, with Thelma Box, was pure sleazy "charismatic" seminar stuff. This is where Phil started to apply all of his salesmanship and psychological seminar tricks, and started to make some money. Thelma Box spills the beans on how Phil takes credit for other people work, and even tried to scam her near the end. Phil would also abuse the "volunteers" that worked for Pathways.

Phil is NOT a registered psychologist anymore. He ran into trouble years ago, when a 19 year old woman lodged a complaint against Dr. Phil, she said he sexually abused her, pulling her into his lap, reaching into her blouse, etc. He was severely disciplined by his licensing board in a number of different ways.

 His new company, Courtroom Sciences, CSI, tested the loyalty of his employees by staging calls from people pretending to be from the media. His demands, perfectionism, impatience, infuriated outbursts created an atmosphere of fear, resentment, and anxiety. CSI was a 24/7 job for all his employees, they "own you". Dr. Phil behaved in a sexist manner towards his female staff, calling some of their work "an abortion". He was verbally abusive, swearing, calling a woman a stupid b*tch, etc. Former employees describe CSI as being like a "cult" in the demands it would place on them.

Dr. Phil Show: Phil got a lavish office, but were very cheap with the crew, no food on-set, 16 hr days, he made the job a "living hell" for the crew, making it "the worst show they had ever worked on". He would yell profanities at his crew, making last minute changes and keeping people up all night. Even his wife Robin was interfering with the lighting, and caused the Emmy award lighting director to be fired! The staff all has to sign non-disclosure agreements, so they could only leak info out. Phil did not bother to learn the names of his crew.

Phil's ego is so big, he refuses to have any other experts in psychology on other than himself.
 All guests on the show sign massive releases that release them from everything.
 He gets $125,000 per speech.
 He launched products called "Shape Up", in a deal with Alticor, the parent company of Amway.

Phil presents himself as though he thought up all the valid psychological ideas he uses, he makes it seem they are all his own ideas. McGraw also doesn't seem to follow the APA guidelines or ethics, in how he deals with the people on the show.
 He tries to erase his ugly past from the record, and pretends it never happened. He filed for bankruptcy after his health club went out of business, then left town in the middle of the night, and didn't mention it again. The same with his first marriage, which was a disaster, with allegations of Dr. Phil cheating on his wife many times. He tries to pretend things in his life never happened.
 People are so afraid of Phil, that they will not talk about him, won't return calls, and expressed fear of retaliation from Phil.




 

2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
 Good opinion of him destroyed, October 27, 2005
Reviewer:
Average Joe - See all my reviews
Used to love him. Hate him now thanks to this book. A real eye opener. Kind of wish I hadn't read it. I can't watch his show without thinking about what a hypocrite he is.





3 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
 90% Tabloid Journalism, May 19, 2005
Reviewer:
opal "opal" (Denver, CO) - See all my reviews
I found this book to be predominately Tabloid Journalism. The majority of the book has the exact same tone & phrasing & spin as the rag mags. Just like the rag mags do, the authors took a few facts, a lot of gossip & rumor then added their version of armchair psychology & spin to create a sensationalistic waste of money. When you're done reading, it feels more like you've read a fiction novel than legitimate non-fiction. As any good journalist knows, if you can't get enough corroborating sources, you don't run the story. So why did they bother? Money?





5 of 14 people found the following review helpful:
 Dr. Phil Basher!, May 13, 2005
Reviewer:
Florence "Florence" (Brooklyn, NY United States) - See all my reviews
If you are a fan of Dr. Phil's, I recommend that you not read this book. I felt it did nothing but tear apart, not only Dr. Phil, but his wife, kids, parents, etc. I'm not so naive to believe that the man is a saint, but it was annoying and obnoxious to read -- numerous times on every single page! -- that this man is a horror!

The jacket describes this book as a sweet story -- however, I liken it to those tabloid rags that only want to find the negativity in someone and go on and on about it.

For example, when Dr. Phil's father graduated college as a 21-year old, he barely passed with C's. When he went back years later, he had done much better. However, the book stated several times, "Well, he might have done better this time, but remember he almost flunked out before."

The book also constantly used derogatory words in describing Dr. Phil and his work. For example, instead of writing "Dr. Phil consistently tells his audience his therapy isn't for everyone," the book writes, "Dr. Phil 'admits'. . . ."

Every thing Dr. Phil did was torn apart. If I wasn't so interested in Dr. Phil's life, I would have tossed the book after the first chapter.

Not for nothing, but if this man is as much a terror as the book tries to convince you he is, I don't think he would be as successful in his business, in his (long) marriage or as a wonderful, loving, devoted father.


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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2006, 09:01:09 PM »
I am one who forms my own opinions of people, and, in spite of his sordid past as you claim, I still like him and see his heart as being good.  IF I"m wrong, GOD will tell me.

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 09:11:35 PM »
You're wrong.

Now I need to change into something more comfortable.  This bra is killing me.

God

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Re: The Dr Phil Show
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 11:05:49 PM »
You're wrong.

Now I need to change into something more comfortable.  This bra is killing me.

God

God wears a bra????