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logos4philo

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2006, 02:15:56 AM »
Thanks, Beth...But the thing is that I don't enjoy misery.  I also just gobbled up two pints of ice cream.  It's self-sabotage to the nth degree.  I haven't exercised in a month or so because of the emotional pain.  Those words just spilled out of me, actually. I thought they would best convey what I was thinking.  If he ever calls me again, Beth, do you think I should speak with him or just not respond?  He has done so many horrible things to me which I won't even mention here. 

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2006, 11:32:11 AM »
Hi Logos,

Should you talk to him if he calls again?  Pretend for a moment that you were a heroine addict, and you had just kicked the habit.  If your old drug dealer called, would you talk to him?  Or would you run for your life?!?  I am not saying that you are addicted to this man or to N relationships.  I am not saying that at all.  But this is how I felt once when I was in a relationship with an N (he was brilliant and felt it beneath him to really talk to me).  When I figured it out, I brooded for a long time, beat myself up, and then gathered all my courage and strength.  Then I ran like hell and never looked back.

My advice: Run and don't look back.  No contact.  You can do this!  You deserve to be happy with yourself.  And some day, you will find someone who loves you and treats you with all the kindness and respect you deserve.

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« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2006, 07:18:31 AM »
IamNew: Should you talk to him if he calls again?  Pretend for a moment that you were a heroine addict, and you had just kicked the habit.  If your old drug dealer called, would you talk to him?  Or would you run for your life?!? 
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I am not saying that you are addicted to this man or to N relationships.


Um, I am.  I will go so far as to say you are addicted if you continue to take an abuser back.  I will also say that you might have signs of stockholm syndrome and Codependency.  The N's plan is to get us to be addicted to them, so that they can devalue and leave us, yet keep us on the side long enough to torture us by dangling their "new love" in our face, telling us how we fell so short compared to so and so.  Believe me, it is very much an addiction in every sense of the word, but it's not totally our fault either.  They woo and promise and even grant some of those promises, to a point that we almost crave the insanity for a long time after.  Once you finally break free from the N-Web, only THEN do you realize how addicted to them you really were.

Just my view,

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2006, 09:29:40 PM »
Actually Bean,

It is a good idea for someone to research everything ANYONE posts here.  Most abused people DO have Stockholm syndrome, when they are talking about their "loving" parents, even after they were abused by them and other N's.  You might not like it and neither do others who deal with it, but it's a fact.  I'm never going to "get" why people with problems are afraid to really LOOK at those things and work toward freedom, however, I will not be silenced ever again, nor told HOW to communicate something.

~RM

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2006, 02:26:47 AM »
Thank you all!  You've been so very helpful and kind.  It's so cool that you are all here localized and that I found you and that you have responded so thoughtfully to my issues.  I am one of those people who reads all about her problems online like my hair-pulling problem for instance.  And I came here to find out about Ns and their very toxic strategies which seem to work on us most of the time.  They create vortices that suck us in that seem as strong as the bermuda triangle is purported to be.  I'm so thankful to al gore (joke) for creating the internet so i could connect with you very good, thoughtful, generous of spirit people! 

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2006, 12:19:20 AM »
Logos,
I think there is no question that you need to completely cut off contact with the user. But I think issues go deeper than this. I don't think that you are hurtng yourself only over this person. It seems to me that there must have been something in your background that has caused to you hurt yourself, and somehow this man was the trigger.
Is that the case?
Did you say you are seeing a therapist?
I am interested to hear more of your story.
Beth
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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2006, 02:38:05 AM »
I called him.  Even after I read a book over and over called "Don't Call that Man".  I really enjoyed talking with him until I realized again that he is not my boyfriend anymore.  Then he told me about what he really wants in a woman. What he described is not who I am but I guess I could become with a formidable plastic surgeon.  I haven't written him or called since though.  I miss his cleverness but I feel horrible that he didn't choose me as his life-partner.  I wanted to be the one to spend time with him and read in bed with him and discuss all manner of ideas, etc. etc.  I'm so unlucky!  But then I am not that unlucky because I saw on PBS the other night a documentary about little boys in Bolivia who work in silver mines and will die of silicosis because they need to make money to support their mothers and siblings.  There are 800 little boys working in mines in Bolivia.  I wish I could persuade some individual(s) and/or organizations to subsidize those boys' lives so that they don't have to work in the mines but can go to school instead.     

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2006, 07:12:39 AM »
Logos,
I have been through the painful compulsion to keep contacting someone who's told me it's over. I was a raging CoDependent.

Are you getting a grip on it? I think No Contact is the rule for you....

Good that you're absorbed by the Brazilian boys' plight...anything that takes you out of the drama with your Ex. Time will take care of the rest, if you let it work.

Hops
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2006, 09:50:30 AM »
Another thought, Logos:

When that has happened to me (rather not count) I have found comfort in honestly asking myself this:
Do I really, in reality, want a life with a partner/mate who does not enthusiastically want me?

Even at my most insecure, there was only one answer.

Hops

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2006, 12:13:35 PM »
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I miss his cleverness but I feel horrible that he didn't choose me as his life-partner.  I wanted to be the one to spend time with him and read in bed with him and discuss all manner of ideas, etc. etc.  I'm so unlucky!

Some day I think you will look back on that sentence and be both amused and astonished that you ever thought that way. To escape, by the narrowest of margins, being hooked permanently to an N is one of the luckiest things that can ever happen.
It is only slight hyperbole to say that after a few months or years of being legally tied to and living with the hell of a Narcissist you might very well have wished to trade your life for one in a Bolivian silver mine.

You are better than he deserves. His adolescent mind apparently pines for the the new anatomically correct Barbi with the built in echo chamber.  Aren't you more than some idiot's boyhood daydream of an action figure?
The problem with guys who want dolls instead of real women is they will toss you in the closet as soon as next year's model comes out. There is someone who wants you for you. Be patient and he'll come along.

mud

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2006, 05:54:49 PM »
Mud, actually he seems to want someone who is brilliant like he is and very attractive to him.  It seems he is drawn to women who have doctorates in the humanities who can spar with him intellectually.   It seems like a reasonable wish on his part.  I know everyone has his own agenda in life.  But he used me and threw me in the lurch.  He completely led me on!  It's partly my fault for allowing myself to be exploited, but I just kept hoping and hoping he would begin to treat me with the respect I know I deserve.  I mean I know I am one of the kindest and most thoughtful people I have ever known to exist!  Kindness and thoughtfulness are qualities that are completely legitimate to boast about because they are not superficial, cannot be purchased, and are extremely underrated.  I wish he valued me.  I'm so dejected and bald and I hate having to cover up my bald spot every day with a barrette.

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2006, 08:48:14 PM »
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Kindness and thoughtfulness are qualities that are completely legitimate to boast about because they are not superficial, cannot be purchased, and are extremely underrated.


Good for you, Logos! This sounds feisty and healthy and self-respecting!

But this does not:

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I wish he valued me.


I wish you valued you.

When you do...you won't ask yourself that kind of question any more. That's the direction to go, with every bit of support and cheering-on you can find for yourself.

Do you believe this, I wonder? Do you truly believe, deep down inside, that active kindness toward yourself, that becomes a state of being in which you would NEVER tolerate yourself pining for someone who used and discarded you, is your goal?

Hops



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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2006, 11:46:14 AM »
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It seems he is drawn to women who have doctorates in the humanities who can spar with him intellectually.   It seems like a reasonable wish on his part.

Not to me. Sparring is for the boxing ring. Thoughtful discussions are for the intellect. Intellectual sparring is a euphimism in their minds for the infantile desire to dominate another.

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Mud, actually he seems to want someone who is brilliant like he is and very attractive to him.

Then he should go F himself because who is as brilliant as he is and who is as attractive to himself as the guy in the mirror?
Who the heck cares what he wants? What do you want; a bum who makes you literally pull your hair out or somebody who values you just the way you are?

BTW, its been my experience that most of these people aren't nearly as smart as they fool others (and themselves) into believing. They have facile minds and are quick witted, hence their proclivity for 'intellectual sparring' but there is no depth to their intellect. There is no wisdom, no discernment. Intellect without wisdom or compassion gave us people like Marx and Nietzsche and all the loveliness that followed them. Most Ns are similar, they just operate on a smaller scale leaving a personal path of destruction not a worldwide one.

They know but they don't understand.
Solomon said, "Wisdom is the principle thing; therefore get wisdom. And in all thy getting, get understanding."
And he was right. With a little more understanding I think you'll see just what a harmful dork this guy is and how fortunate you are that he did not appreciate you. A bald spot, which after all grows back (well maybe not for me :x), is a lot cheaper than the bill that comes due if they really get their hooks in you permanently.

mud

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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2006, 12:07:47 PM »
Hi Logos,

What he, Mud, said, times two:

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Who the heck cares what he wants? What do you want; a bum who makes you literally pull your hair out or somebody who values you just the way you are?


There are some great ideas of 'what love is' on the Love thread, if you'd like other perspectives. What it ISN'T, among other things, imho, =judging/conditional/superficial/selfish/perfect/one-sided/egotistical and, well, sucky. One possibly worthwhile question: Do you think this guy spends 1/100th of the amount of time thinking about what you want, expect, desire as you do concerning him?

I think only you get to decide what you're worth, Logos, and I hope you'll realize soon that you're worth much more than this me-oriented poseur (imho, any self described 'intellectual' may as well say 'Hey, my head's real far up my a##,' as that's what I hear!)

Please excuse my bluntness. It's an affliction. You deserve all good things, Logos. Hope you'll throw all the positive energy you have into seeking them.

Peace,
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LoH

PS - All that and a little handclap for Mud; just gotta' appreciate a guy who can say 'Go F yourself' and quote Solomon in the same post...
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Re: emotionally abused by narcissistic boyfriend
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2006, 04:34:47 PM »
All the kind hearted angels seem to have gathered on this website you all are wise and good and kind ,And I thank you for helping
  me to be free of my n dad ,I just need to hold on to it.I know I will .Thanks (N-DAD,N-BF)
      Moonlight
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