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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2006, 08:35:53 PM »
write,
Where are you from??? You said you are an immigrant????
Love, Beth
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2006, 03:59:25 PM »
hiya - I just want to say that I read what brigid replied and it makes a lot of sense to me.

What if you meet a wonderful guy...finally get around to telling him your "bad" news, and he sees it as a positive?  I mean, someone perfect for you might actually be releived to hear you're so enlightened and responsible about your mental health.  Most people I meet I'm finding could use a LOT more enlightenment in this area.  It'd actually be a relief to some that you're aware of your problems challenges.

Most of us just live in the dark about ourselves, and we like it that way?  weird

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2006, 05:30:48 PM »
Thank you all, that is very encouraging. I will digest this all, and try to get back to the positive place I was in a few weeks ago before I started thinking about resuming normal service!

I am a very open person, but almost everyone I have told about the Bipolar it has backfired in some negative way, so I think I will make that a new rule is I don't talk about it unless I have to.

It's something I can't trust most people with, from being insulted or manipulated ( saw my ex yeaterday and was greeted with 'you look nuts today'. Charming ) to being judged.

It's funny, I have gone from a crazy place of trusting everyone & seeing the good in everything to a place of suspecting hostile motives everywhere and trusting no one! I guess I'll find a balance some day!!!

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I am from England, living in TX now.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2006, 07:39:26 PM »
'you look nuts today'. Charming

Good grief. I believe he was absent during how-to-be-human class.

GRRRRRRR.

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2006, 07:51:55 PM »
Hiya Write!!!! How are yout today? Boy, can I relate to your query and feelings!!!! I agree with your observation that most times the old bipolar revelation does come back to roost and bite you on the arse!!!! Too much igornance in the world unfortunately!!! I have alternated between revealing things indiscriminatley and not telling at all. Now I withold the info untill I really get to know the person, have some idea realistically if I can trust the person and do they really need to know? And what do they really need to know?  The guy I've been with for the past six months and have known as a friend for over a year, is someone who is understanding and supportive. He is also a recovering addict like me and as such, is well acquainted with depression, suicidality and psychosis. He does alot of reading and personal education on mental illness and above all is open minded. I feel blessed. Love, Moira
I've just ended abusive relationship of 1 yr. with male narcissist. I cycle between stages of anger and grieving and have accepted it. Hope I've alienated him so he won't recontact me- is this possible?     Moira

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2006, 07:57:56 PM »
Well, Write, I am certain, considering what my young adult son says, that your being from England is NOT a "deficit" at all....he and his friends all agree that a British accent is very appealling. Ok, so you are not going for 18 year olds, but I'm sure your accent is very attractive.
As far as your other attributes, I'd agree with most here, and tell you to unwrap your "onion layers" as you feel comfortable.
YOU are not your health issue. At least I don't see it like that. Everybody has something or another that makes them interesting. Slicing open the onion on the first date just makes future dates less interesting.
You are not "hiding" anything, just saving another layer for later.

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2006, 12:16:38 AM »
Hi Write:

Don't have much wisdom to add but I wanted to post to say I'm interested. 

I think when you meet the right person you won't have to worry.  Things will fall into place and you'll know when you're comfortable about talking about this.  Otherwise, it's just personal information right?
You don't have to reveal personal information to every person you meet and I think you'll know when the time is right.

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I am a very open person, but almost everyone I have told about the Bipolar it has backfired in some negative way

I'm sorry this happened Write.  It's not fair or right.  I'm with Mum, you are not a diagnosis....you're you!!
A wonderful, worthy, lovable you!!  Please believe this!!

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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2006, 12:27:51 AM »
Hi again write!
So what's it like for an Englishwoman in Texas???? Do you like it???? Miss England?
We have a house in San Antonio. That is the sane part of my vacation coming up. I LOVE San Antonio.
You know, I truly think each person is so unique and we each have something that I am sure could make another person feel unconfortable. There are no perfect people for sure. Maybe when you told these other people you were feeling unsure how they would react, and gave off that kind of vibe? Soem people can pick up on that and make you feel more uncomfortable. BiPolarity is treatable and nothing out of the ordinary anymore. I know that I get quite crazy with my thyroid stuff (I was quite bonkers for a while) and, honestly, my husband is a big help now, because he can tell me if my moods get strange or if AI am too tired or some such thing. That way I can make sure to get back to the Doc and check and see if all is allright.
Don't ever feel sorry for who you are. We are each different.
I used to be embarrassed about being an alcoholic. I am sure many cringe on the board when I talk about it. I don't shout it from the rooftops, but if it comes down to the information being necessary for someone, I tell them. One couple we are friends with now loves to drink. They kept mixing me drinks, and so on. Finally I said, "I am a beer-for-breakfast alcoholic. I can't do it anymore." We are great friends with them. They respect my position and I theirs. I used to be embarrassed, but I just am not anymore. Why should I be? I am learning to be a good person because of it... just like you are!!!
Take care of yourself and be happy, write!!!!!!
Love, Beth
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2006, 06:29:43 AM »
San Antonio's pretty.
I'm thinking about moving to Austin- it is hard for an Englishwoman in TX, the people here are that horrid Deep South mix of excessive friendliness and insincerity which is about the opposite of English behaviour ( unfriendly but more genuine )

I used to be embarrassed about being an alcoholic. I am sure many cringe on the board when I talk about it.

I don't think so, I hadn't really noticed you mention it much!
And I do think it's part of recovery-honesty- so that you don't slip back, it's so easy to go from not telling other people to telling yourself 'oh it's ok' etc.
If I have a couple of good years I 'forget' I am bipolar or start thinking I am 'cured' and let all the 'triggers' creep back.

'I was quite bonkers for a while'
Have you been talking to my ex?  :D

most times the old bipolar revelation does come back to roost and bite you on the arse!!!!

it does, because it makes people feel superior somehow, so later if there's a problem I find someone is more willing to assume they are ok or right or that it's just me and my problems.
I think this is where my habit of being nice no matter what comes from: I feel I don't have the luxury of getting angry or misbehaving like other people!

The worst experience of my life was joining a church community, ironically after years of not wanting to accept spiritual issues because my last experience of being in a church had not been positive either; some horrible things happened to me there but I felt they really weren't taken seriously because I had been ill and it was easier to attribute problems to my bipolar than to address them.

I was talking to a close friend who is bipolar earlier, she had a similar experience with an animal rescue, and years later she says she can still feel incredibly sad or hurt or angry about her experiences there: which is another problem with the bipolar, the feelings are intense, and even when I tell myself, this is the illness or it's an over reaction etc, it doesn't help to dissipate them or reduce them.

Take this week. You know I have been having problems finding a decent doctor. I asked a doctor friend to bridge the gap for me, she told me this week she really doesn't want to be my doctor, just my friend.
Now a normal person would recognise- I am putting her in an ambivalent place, she's not writing me off or rejecting me etc. I felt really hurt, because she didn't realise how that would come across to me, that I don't handle anything rejection-like well and she just plonked it in the middle of an email about other stuff, plus I am really overwhelmed about this issue right now.

Again- because I have bipolar I can't just think 'oh my doctor behaved unprofessionally and I don't want to see her' it's more like 'is this me? WHat do I do wrong that these things keep happening...'

You know that Disney Toy STory movie, the Randy Newman song 'STrange Things are happening to me...' ( I'll post the words below, quite funny really )

Bipolar attracts people- the energy and creativity does, well before anyone knows what causes it; plus people are curious about what it's like to be Virginia Woolf or whatever...but most people are pretty judgemental about mental illness, myself included:

The dope-smoking bipolar guy whose parents live in my street is back again after 2 suicide attempts, he and I were chatting and he still doesn't see that using cannabis is making his problems worse not better, even though he says 'I've been in hospital twice' since he gave up his medication and he can't seem to hold down any employment or source of stability because he's getting wrecked all the time...
' the weed helps me cope'.
I can look at him and feel quite smug if I care to that even in my worst times I have continued to work and write and parent and pay bills etc. and I don't respond with angry outbursts etc.
But because I have been to places where most people don't go I can't be smug any more: it's there but for the grace of G_d go I



THANK YOU ALL for the support and input.
I have been struggling for days to move through this, and not sure if I could ask for help.



I was on top of the world
it was right in my pocket
I was living the life
things were just the way they should be
When from out of the sky like a bomb comes some little punk in a rocket
now all of a sudden some strange things are happening to me

I had friends,
I had lots of friends
Now all my friends are gone
And I'm doing the best I can to carry on

I had power (power)
I was respected (respect)
But not any more
And I've lost the love to the one whom I adored

Let me tell you about the strange things are happening to me
Strange things
Strange things are happening to me...
Ain't no doubt about it

You got someone you think you know well
It turns out a stranger
The minute you turn your back
You're in it all by yourself

They laugh at your jokes,
You think you're doing well
But you're in danger, boy
You end up alone, forgotten, way up on the shelf

Strange things are happening to me
Strange things
Strange things are happening to me
Ain't no doubt about it

Strange things are happening to me
Strange things
Strange things are happening to me

Strange things
Strange things






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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2006, 06:48:10 AM »
Dear Write,

  You look quite lovely today!  :)

Hope

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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2006, 11:53:36 PM »
write,

my ex-N b/f, like I said, was a family practice doctor.  He would not prescribe medicine for anyone in his family, much less me (including his own mother).  I think this is something they teach them in medical school, that it is not OK to treat family members or friends.  So don't take it personal, k?  look on the bright side, that your fried offered to bridge the gap was a sign that she really cared about you as she was going against something she was taught to do, and probably against her better judgment.  So after some amount of (reasonable) time, maybe she felt it was OK to give you the head's up that it couldn't continue.  Maybe this is a good sign that she feels you're strong enough and capable enough to take care of yourself, ie, to find a good doctor to prescribe your meds.

hugs,
pb

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2006, 12:36:30 AM »
Hi again write,
It sounds to me like you are blaming some of your normal feelings on the BiP condition. Some of what you are describing sounds very normal to me.. just stuff anyone works out day-to-day. Obviously you have highs and lows, so it must be hard for you to tell what is in the normal range of reaction. Is there any way for you to explore this idea?
Texas... here I come...
Love, Beth
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2006, 02:18:50 PM »
she felt it was OK to give you the head's up that it couldn't continue.

I think it's the psych stuff she has problems with, too- but I always read rejections very critically.
It is something I am working on.

Some of what you are describing sounds very normal to me.. just stuff anyone works out day-to-day. Obviously you have highs and lows, so it must be hard for you to tell what is in the normal range of reaction. Is there any way for you to explore this idea?

strange you say this, I was wonderign the same and came across a book The highly Sensitive Person ( here's Elaine Dear's website http://www.hsperson.com/ ) and I've been looking at that.

Thank you all for your great suggestions and ideas.

Oh and my new friend couldn't have been too put off, he came to see me in a concert this morning and asked me to go to a play in a few days and for coffee before then.
It's too soon to tell if it's romantic, but he is so lovely with my patients I hope we become close. He's a really nice guy.

I guess I'm the one with the issues about me!

My ex is taking the boundary setting a bit better, he still looks a bit lost but I think it's 'crisis over' for now at least.
I like that because it means we can enjoy time together and our son together without him being a Nidiot.


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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2006, 10:39:18 AM »
Hi Write,
Would it be helpful to suggest that there could be just a little red flag here:

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I hope we become close. He's a really nice guy.

Nothing wrong with liking a nice guy! But I am hoping you don't get hooked by your own hope.
The only way I've managed to retrain myself from my romantic yearnings (since they have turned all my relationships into trainwrecks) is to repeat to myself, like a mantra, Be Here in the Moment. Just Enjoy the Present.

I absolutely HAD to let go of fantasizing when I get to know a new man. I came to see that fantasizing at ALL was extremely detrimental to me.

Don't know if that's been an issue for you...but if it is, hope this helps.

(Very nice to hear that your Ex is being less draining than usual. May it last!)

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2006, 12:44:06 PM »
Very nice to hear that your Ex is being less draining than usual. May it last

it won't/ didn't! But I don't worry as much about it now. He hasn't done anything mean for a while, but I am not 'waiting for it'. I'll deal with what happens at the time.

Yesterday he was pretty uncommunicative though he insisted on coming over, so I decided to just keep talking despite his obvious disinterest/ lack of engagement. After 30 minutes and various topics he looked at me and said 'are we going shopping?'!

It was really interesting because I could see the mechanics of what he does- the more animated I am about something the more he disengages and sends subtle disprespect my way.

My parents did that too.

Yes, I am aware of the dangers of fantasy- I am trying to be in the moment when I am with this man and to think less about him when I am not.
And it sounds selfish but he will have to make the arrangements and if he doesn't call etc I won't be chasing him ( or anyone )

It is nice getting to know someone who is happy with themselves, I don't mind right now if it's a friendship or a deeper romance, I do value both equally.

It's hard to handle the intensity in some ways, those little moments of not being sure, but he is so easy to be with I can just relax and be myself and not worry. A couple of times I have felt tongue-tied, or shy, but it was just lovely to not have to be perfect and he didn't mind. He smiles a lot at me, not like my ex with always an agenda ( patronising/ you belong to me/ I need something ) just an open kind smile.

I have told him that I am not divorced yet, and that my son is my no 1 priority; I don't think I need tell him any more about me at this point.

I have to go now but I'll write some stuff later about the fantasising from this Highly Sensitive Person book, she talsk about it too.

Thanks for thinking about me!