Author Topic: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance  (Read 3927 times)

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Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« on: July 22, 2006, 09:35:00 AM »
thanks for recommending this Hop, it's really helpful to reframe the obsessing!

It's pretty obvious really: make a great single life for yourself and enjoy being in the moment of a new relationship without projecting some kind of imagined future too early on, but she spells out why obsessing and trying to control things happens, and when and why we have to back off.

The projected future bit is really interesting, I didn't realise until I examined this closely that my subconscious projected future is about marriage and undying unconditional love- but I also find both concepts 'engulfing'. Explains some of the self-sabotage which happens when I do meet a 'Mr Right' and why I keep playing out impossible relationships and married an N twice.

She says we too often miss 'the moments' of becoming close, and need to work on our own anxieties and not play them out in relationships.


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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 12:40:58 PM »
I'm so glad somebody took me up on reading this book!!

Thanks for telling me Write. SO glad it's helpful to you.

I found it was "a guide to healthy" -- and my pattern was just like yours.

When I get the nerve to get out there again, I'll re-read it first!

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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2006, 12:58:02 AM »
it's not the only book I've read, but it's the most succinct in describing the way people move closer and back off as they encounter different emotions ( which she calls 'the switch' )

I have often attracted men who are interested in pursuit, but once they have my attention/ interest in return they back off: and that is totally different because they really don't want me ( or anyone except 'fantasy woman' ) they just enjoy the challenge/ quest then move on to the next 'victim'
( and I use that word because that's how people mostly feel when they are engaged pointlessly for acting-out purposes )

Handling 'the switch' is more about being patient and enjoying that is it/ isn't it? time whilst you're still getting to know someone and they ( and you ) appear more and less desirable as you ( and they ) work through all the issues.

ANYWAY, I've been out with my new friend tonight and-

I think I told you all this a couple of years ago, but one of the horriblest things anyone ever did to me was play with my emotions when I was already very hurt.

This guy at church choir was always hanging around, looking at me, being kind. I pretty much ignored him for a few weeks, but he seemed so nice, and he wrote such interesting emails to me, and one evening he ran after me and then just stood there, tongue-tied, I thought he was just shy or something. I'd already thought there was a strange dynamic with this other woman mutual friend, she was so really nice with me except when he showed, when she seemed somehow jealous? so I asked about him but she told me they were just friends adn she was in marriage counselling to reconcile with her husband.

Well to cut a convoluted story even when shortened shorter- one evening he came running after me again as I was leaving, and asked me to go for a drink later. I accepted and was more than a little surprised when it came time to leave and mutual woman friend showed up too. This guy had written me a poem earlier that day, which ended 'trouble lies ahead- the good kind'. I should have taken the warning. I wasn't keen on going when I realised it was this weird threesome, but I was so mixed up right then and thought I must have misunderstood or she did or something.

We got drinks and sat down and chatted and the mutual friend woman was getting more and more agitated. By this time I knew something was really wrong but I didn't have my car- my instinct was telling me- go chat to someone else, get them to drop you back in town...get a cab...but suddenly I was rooted to the spot and he looked at me this real sly look and said, I have something to tell you: and passionately kissed this other woman!

It was like I was some kind of extra in their drama...

What reminded me was tonight with my new friend, we went to a concert, enjoyed it, then as we were leaving this beautiful young woman came over and started chatting to him and really making eyes at him. I was right there and she said 'did you come alone?' and then still ignored me when he introduced us!

You'd be proud of me though: I got this horrible sinking deja-vu for a minute and then thought, a la Judith Sills- 'back off'. I went outside to the foyer and chatted to several groups of total strangers, until he emerged, clearly looking for me and was so apologetic, he said 'I am so sory, I couldn't get away, I've never spoken more than 2 words to her before...'

I gave him a beaming smile and said 'if you want me to leave you two alone just say...' he said 'not at all' and we resumed the evening ( he said 'did you just go up and chat to total strangers in the foyer?'! And asked me if I've always been this brave. I said yes, I just didn't always know it! )

Today has been a beautiful day for me. I met this guy this morning, he and I connected so well. His ex and one of our friends were there, they were sort-of apologetic about his occasional reticence and surliness with strangers, but he and I had an instant connection and his ex said to me after: he must really like you.

I liked him too, but the encounter gave me the extra confidence to deal with that potential rejection thing tonight, and if my friend had showed any interest in the woman I would walk away head up high feeling like- best to know right now.

Hope all this makes sense, I don't have time to proof-read AND walk the dog!



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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2006, 01:07:44 AM »
Ewwww, Write, I don't think they wanted you to be an extra:

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this real sly look and said, I have something to tell you: and passionately kissed this other woman!

It was like I was some kind of extra in their drama...

I think they wanted you to share top billing, in bed. Ick! What an ugly presumption they made about you. Yikers. No wonder you made tracks.

Such a grownup, healthy way you handled the young woman coming onto your new friend. Bravo!

And nice to know that someone yet again finds you attractive (the surly-to-strangers guy)...but don't forget the waitress test! Waitresses are usually strangers, ja?

Sounds like you're popping with useful new awareness...
Good going:)

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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2006, 02:11:34 AM »
I think they wanted you to share top billing, in bed. Ick!

10/10!
I realise now they are part of this 'polyamory' 'swingers' club from my last church & and that this is frowned upon by most normal Unitarians ( and most non-abusive people )

Would you believe I actually brushed off this first attempt and went out with them again, only to find the woman pawing all over another man " it's nothing really "....

And I tried to remain friends with the guy briefly, but he was always trying to manipulate me into some kind of emotional competition; and he was asexual unless there was some high drama to arouse him; Thank G_d I never slept with him or I'd be in therapy for ever and a day

YES! I am attractive- not perfect by any means, but loveable? You bet!

THANK YOU for pointing out all this useful stuff and fornot dropping dead with boredom whilst I obsessed for a while!




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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 09:45:44 AM »
WRITE:

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And asked me if I've always been this brave. I said yes, I just didn't always know it! )

YES!  YES!  YES!  I am SO PROUD OF YOU!!! 

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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2006, 05:48:50 PM »
Thank you a.n.shf, thank you all  :D

Now I'm going to work on some more aspects of my life I want to work on more: being more productive & making some money, and getting back to full physical fitness!

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Re: Judith Sills: A Fine Romance
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2006, 07:27:50 PM »
Write, you're welcome! This sure is neat to read:

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YES! I am attractive- not perfect by any means, but loveable? You bet!
  :D

((((Write))))

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