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The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« on: September 25, 2006, 11:00:34 AM »
Excerpted from the article 

The Impact of Narcissism on Leadership and Sustainability
   by Bruce Gregory, Ph.D.



On the surface narcissism presents so the individual appears as confident and entitled. NARCISSISM loves and demands attention to reinforce its grandiosity. It needs to dominate and control the "space," to be "more special" than anyone else. It also needs perfection and immediate gratification to satisfy its all powerful aspect of its grandiosity. As a result, inside the individual, the narcissism feels extremely arrogant.

However, underneath the surface narcissism is fragile. Disappointment and frustration threaten its grandiosity, leaving it vulnerable to feelings of shame and humiliation exacerbated by its harsh, punitive component. Along with the shame and humiliation come deep fears of annihilation which are fueled by the black and white, rigid thinking component: "if I am not perfect and all powerful, then I am nothing." The extreme fear of being found out to not be omnipotent requires the narcissism to resort to hiding its deeper nature. This act of hiding ultimately leaves the narcissistic self vulnerable to forces that have trust at their core, not fear.

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NARCISSISM is distinguished from true leadership (which shares attention) by narcissism’s use, abuse and exploitation of people, as opposed to enhancing and facilitating the value of others. Sustainability is dependent on collaborative, mutually complementary group efforts that seek to maximize benefits for the largest amount of people without exploiting each other or the integrity of the environment. This is offensive to narcissism because it is in direct contradiction to narcissism’s values of dominance, exploitation and control.

So what does narcissism do in the presence of sustainability proponents? It resists. It resists in a methodical, calculated way toward the end of either distracting, derailing, or simply stopping whatever program the sustainability contingent is seeking to implement. Character assassination, misinformation, and blocking access to funding and other resources are commonly employed methods.

Before we discuss how narcissism can be detected and engaged effectively, it is important to review factors which contribute to narcissism being able to effectively control situations and relationships. First, if a person or a group is unaware of his or its narcissism, they will often be unable to recognize the presence of a narcissistic force. It is a well known dynamic in most psychological circles that if one is denying or cut off from an aspect of the self, it is very difficult position to recognize this aspect in others.

Second, many people have the fantasy that if they try hard, "do it right," be reasonable, logical, and have goodwill and a team approach, these factors will generate a positive outcome in interpersonal or group settings. This is about as deep a fantasy as one could possibly have, as it is not based in reality. Why is this? It is not based in reality because a narcissist survival is dependent on having control, or the perception of control. When a narcissist's control is challenged (and this is what efforts toward sustainability do by definition), he becomes threatened, and responds like his survival is at stake, transforming the environment into a veritable jungle. This is not the friendly environment of Mr. Rogers’ neighborhood! In addition narcissism is disdainful of such attitudes (fantasies).

A third factor which reinforces the stranglehold narcissism can have is when people are committed to being "nice" or fair, and as a result are unwilling or unprepared to hold the narcissist accountable for positions or behaviors. Finally, an unwillingness to "go for the throat," as champions do in sporting events, only allows narcissism to recycle and feed off its commitment to domination.

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Transformation in accordance with principles of sustainability is dependent upon an individual and groups of individuals having and utilizing sufficient trust in themselves and in natural law to withstand the efforts of narcissistic forces to intimidate, mystify, and control major processes of life. The seeds of empowerment are contained within a world of trust, and its many subsets. There are many areas in which to develop trust before a persons or persons can amass sufficient power to transform the holds narcissistic forces maintain. These include: trust in oneself; trust that natural law supercedes the will and tenacity of narcissistic forces; trusting that narcissistic forces at their core do not come from strength, but from desperation; trust in one's skills to empower others by helping them to break down fears into manageable segments, and by asking questions that challenge others to think for themselves, and take responsibility for their positions.

In order to utilize this deep, inner reservoir of trust it is important to have highly developed tolerances for frustration, ambiguity and anxiety. Transformation often takes a long time and involves complex processes that parallel natural laws obeying temporal factors which are in direct contrast to narcissism's insistence upon immediate gratification. If we examine transformation briefly from the perspectives of biology and chemistry, we will notice that molecular processes continually taking place at the cellular level require heat. Heat is often associated with passion, whose activity is blocked by significant amounts of fear and anxiety. A leader must to able to facilitate the transformation of fear in others, not react to the fear of others, and contain and transform the fear within herself. Without this, focus is lost, and it becomes impossible to manifest the necessary combinations of interdependent resources that sustainability processes require.

Article includes tips on Skills for dealing with N, amongst other helpful info.


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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2006, 11:29:14 AM »
Excellent post CH. Thank you.

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 12:15:03 PM »
Certain Hope
What a powerful piece.  So concisely gets at the problem and solution of dealing with narcissism as a societal force.  I see that in addition to the wounding we have received, we also have received a vision and insight into who is and what is narcissistic.  I have often heard echoed on this site my own feelings of inadequacy to convey to others the destruction of the Ns in our life.  Your piece explains that dynamic so clearly. We have been given a special knowledge that we can use to set ourselves free.

It is in this knowledge that we can trust - S+S
Trust. That is what is so hard to have, as a child of an N. I struggle to trust myself, The universe and others.
The Ns have poisoned our belief in our own understanding, in our own strenghts because they felt threatened by them.  But here we are learning to trust our insights about narcissism and here we get validation and reafirmation that our experiences with Ns are as crazy as thy seemed.  In this understanding we must go back to that instincive understanding that has been systematically squashed by Nness.

Thank you so much Certain Hope.  This is very encouraging.  It will help me as I go out into the world.  I have in the past, tried to argue with narcissism and trid to set it right.  No more.  I will now see encounters with Narcissism as a roadblock as in the mazes my little boy loves to work.  When I get to the roadblock I will see it as a sign to turn around and go the other way.  Until now I have tried to get through the roadblock.  What a waste!  No wonder I have been so tired.

These three factors that reinforce narcissistic strongholds help me make sense of a lifetime of struggle and frustration both on a personal level and on a corporate (as in community or large body of people working together) level.

Jacmac - this is what you have been posting about so often and so eloquently.  Boy - what a piece of redemptive writing.  Thanks again Certain Hope - your friend Gaining Strength.

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2006, 07:53:50 PM »
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" ... many people have the fantasy that if they try hard, "do it right," be reasonable, logical, and have goodwill and a team approach, these factors will generate a positive outcome in interpersonal or group settings. This is about as deep a fantasy as one could possibly have, as it is not based in reality. Why is this? It is not based in reality because a narcissist survival is dependent on having control, or the perception of control. When a narcissist's control is challenged (and this is what efforts toward sustainability do by definition), he becomes threatened, and responds like his survival is at stake, transforming the environment into a veritable jungle. This is not the friendly environment of Mr. Rogers’ neighborhood! In addition narcissism is disdainful of such attitudes (fantasies).

A third factor which reinforces the stranglehold narcissism can have is when people are committed to being "nice" or fair, and as a result are unwilling or unprepared to hold the narcissist accountable for positions or behaviors. Finally, an unwillingness to "go for the throat," as champions do in sporting events, only allows narcissism to recycle and feed off its commitment to domination."

Wow... :-) :-) :-) ... somebody out there agrees with me! WOO-HOO!!! little happy dance!!!!!!

These are the centerpieces of N brainwashing, these are the attitudes they strive to instill in us - when we are their children, when we are their students, their subordinates, their mates. This is the foundation of the double standard that can haunt and hinder us all our lives, unless we learn to see it.

The truly awful aspect is that Ns, in teaching us to constrain ourselves this way, are taking the best parts of our character and training us to cripple ourselves with them.

It is SO HARD to see how our best qualities are used against us in this way. It is SO HARD to 'get' that we're being played off against ourselves when this is going on.

This notion that it is more important to be kind, always, indiscriminately, than to determine whether or not our kindness is being wasted in certain contexts, and would be better invested more selectively ... the notion that if we're just kind enough, the world really will all come right, and unloving people will suddenly love us... what else is this, but another way of casting our pearls before swine?

Which is not to say, Alfie, that it is wise to be cruel.

It is wise to be wise. It is wise to use the discernment we have, and to be loving in that way, to realize that it can be more loving to set limits, and require accountability, than to indulge and excuse... although it's much more difficult, requires a lot more thought, and can feel - calculating - at the start.

And this still leaves plenty of room for being kind and loving in the usual way - with people who know how to value that!!!

Link? Link? Please oh please? I want to see what his suggested strategies are, and especially how he advocates breaking denial and maintaining awareness once you've managed to get your vision cleared...
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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 08:02:10 PM »
Glad you've all found this useful.

Sorry, thought I'd included the link:   http://ceres.ca.gov/tcsf/pathways/chapter12.html

Hope

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 08:17:27 PM »
Useful? This is TERRIFIC!!! :-) :-) :-)

thanks so much for finding and sharing it!
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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 08:29:03 PM »
Oh, this is BEAUTIFUL... I think I'm in love!!!.... this guy gets it, gets it, gets it!

Hope, thanks so much...

"SKILLS FOR DEALING WITH NARCISSISM

Skills for dealing with attempts to intimidate can be divided into two areas, intrapersonal and interpersonal. Intrapersonally, it is essential not to react. This means that reactions of fear, impatience, or anger are not practical. In their place should be patience and curiosity. On an interpersonal level, responses and questions like, "that's interesting; could you explain that?; or, "I am not clear about that; would you please clarify (or elaborate)?; or, "it seems like there is a contradiction in your logic." All of these can generate positive results in terms of reducing the control of the narcissistic forces. This is done through the non-reaction, which communicates, "you are not so powerful that you can manipulate me, or us, and distract us from the issue. It is also done through the questions which communicate, "I/we are not afraid of you; we are not leaving the space/situation to your control alone; we will challenge you if necessary; you cannot win through intimidation or disinformation."

Excellent individual emotional boundaries are so critical for dealing with narcissism. These emotional boundaries prevent the force of the narcissism emotions from throwing an individual off balance. The emotional boundaries are also helpful in not taking the narcissism's actions or positions personally. The narcissism, consumed and driven by the grandiosity, feels responsible for everything; therefore, all failures, frustrations, and disappointments are its fault, and are directed personally at it. In interacting with narcissism, one does not want to fall into the narcissist's world and take what is going on personally. Narcissism's actions are indiscriminate. They are directed toward any object, person or group that threatens its control, domination and grandiosity. An excellent emotional boundary system does not allow the force of another person's emotions to penetrate one's own personal space.

Accountability skills are another important tool in the sustainability advocate's arsenal. Accountability skills, used in group settings, are extremely educational to promote awareness regarding the dynamics of power. Accountability skills reduce the tendency to be a victim, and provide inspiration and support for persons looking for the courage to successfully challenge narcissistic forces. Accountability creates "space" by obligating narcissistic forces to substantiate positions, communication and behavior. Accountability skills generate the conditions that require narcissistic forces to take responsibility for their intent or give up their position.

Questions like the following are the medium for accountability skills:

How did you come to your decision/position?

What factors influenced your decision?

Have you considered the possibility that you are contradicting yourself?

Have you considered that you have avoided considering some important factors?

Can you clarify your intent and how it includes the following factors (e.g. your lack of accurate information/your resistance/your unwarranted/excessive criticism (which is actually character assassination)?"

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Comes on a bit strong at the end, there, but I can envision settings in which those things could be said.

Thanks so much, Hope. I swear I'm going to write to this guy, as soon as I get my feet back on the ground.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2006, 08:38:09 PM by Stormchild »
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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2006, 09:22:11 PM »
Gee, well... you could fly out to Cali and take him for lunch  :)

Stormy, I tried to find some other articles written by Dr. Gregory, but no success. There's plenty of intriguing info re: Pathways within the Table of Contents link, tho... if you're interested.

I agree, it's good stuff. I especially appreciate his questions which provide a medium for accountability.

Hope


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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2006, 11:59:58 PM »
Wild stuff... and so true. My mother spouts off all kinds of stuff, but if you ask here why she thinks that or where it came from, she has no idea. She fades off and digs for a new conversation piece... usually as charming as the last...
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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2006, 08:23:29 AM »
Jac, you don't deal with it. You leave the room or pick your fingernails and say "is it time for lunch i wonder?"

Answer: yes it is! 1.22 pm and adios 8)

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2006, 10:17:34 AM »
hi hope,
I have read this so many times, as this reminds me of my workplace (and boss specifically).  Thanks for posting it again.  Everytime I read it, I come away with a better sense of what is the "right" thing to do in regards to narcissistic forces, or those trying to serve themselves at work.  This excerpt is especially powerful for me:

In order to utilize this deep, inner reservoir of trust it is important to have highly developed tolerances for frustration, ambiguity and anxiety.

Things have gotten a little better for me at work since standing up for myself and my integrity and not allowing the craziness to affect me as much.  It's tough when you work for a control freak.   :shock:

jac - ick, that gave me a flashback to N Mom.  That is exactly how a raging N responds!!

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2006, 12:09:21 PM »
Hi Pb,

Thanks for your comments, both here and in your other recent posts on the board. I'm learning alot by reading you. Your manner of getting to the roots ~ feelings and all ~ in various situations gives me alot of hope!

This business of developing "a strong tolerance for frustration, ambiguity, and anxiety" felt pretty overwhelming to me, at first.
I think there has to be plenty of testing (kinda like growing patience). One key for me, especially with regard to the ambiguity, is the relinquishing of control ~ similar to the releasing of control in resolving perfectionistic tendancies. It's like .... I don't need for every single duck to have his webby feet on the line at all times, especially when they're not my ducks in the first place.

I'm glad to hear that your work environment is not distressing you so much. It's a wonderful thing when improvement for "us" no longer depends so much on somebody else changing (if that makes sense). I know it's tough, tho.

Always good to hear from you, Pb.

Hugs,

Hope

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2006, 12:14:17 PM »
Hope ,

I have a  tolerance for n behavior .I See it now for what it is.Still there is always a comment from them (when one understands n behavior) to justify their behavior.
So investing love, trust and delight in living a life of love and understanding does not "work" with a n they do not get it and never will.
It is OK with me they will not get it that's just the way it is I am not fighting that battle .Thank you for this article.
Understanding what has happened in my life has freed me, well I feel released .Not to say I do not have challenges like everyone but It is easier now.

THE N IN MY LIFE DOES NOT KNOW ME AT ALL.And I really do not care.It seems I am more frustrating to him at this point.
The more I try to make myself clear the more he does not like it not the party line I am not in lock step.
But my soul has been released to live my live not to live my live for someone else's needs.Its not sad it is just the way it is .People that grow up in "dysfunction" have a wonderful opportunity to understand so much.Gift within the problem.

much gratitude for all I have learned here thank you for my children I am becoming a better parent and this is a good thing.

Blessings

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2006, 12:18:16 PM »
Hi, Jac,

   Your response reminded me of an article I read recently which I'll post in it's entirety, because it seems so applicable to both of us.
It's from a list of articles I got from you several weeks ago, from which I've gleaned loads of practical info... thank you.

    I'll  be back in a bit to add to this with my own thoughts about how I've both received and given feedback, often with terrible results and no clue about how to proceed afterwards.

Hope

GIVING AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK
by Phil Rich, Ed.D., MSW

Feedback is a type of communication that we give or get. Sometimes, feedback is called "criticism," but this seriously limits its meaning.

Feedback is a way to let people know how effective they are in what they are trying to accomplish, or how they affect you. It provides a way for people to learn how they affect the world around them, and it helps us to become more effective. If we know how other people see us, we can overcome problems in how we communicate and interact with them. Of course, there are two sides to feedback: giving it, and receiving it.

Getting Feedback
Some people experience feedback as pure criticism and don't want to hear it. Others see it as spiritually crushing; a confirmation of their worthlessness. Still others only want to hear praise, but nothing that might suggest imperfection.

That's not the case for everyone, of course. Some people are willing to accept feedback and seek it out, even if it is sometimes disturbing, because they believe they can grow from it.

It comes down to whether you believe feedback will harm you or benefit you. This is not to say that we should always have to accept feedback or the manner in which it is sometimes given. We all have the right to refuse feedback, and we can expect feedback to be given in a respectful and supportive manner.

But for every positive and open way of accepting feedback, there's an opposite; a negative and closed manner which pushes feedback away and keeps it at bay.

Negative/Closed Style
 Defensive: defends personal actions, frequently objects to feedback given.  
 Attacking: verbally attacks the feedback giver, and turns the table.  
 Denies: refutes the accuracy or fairness of the feedback.
 Disrespectful: devalues the speaker, what the speaker is saying, or the speaker's right to give feedback.
 Closed: ignores the feedback, listening blankly without interest.  
 Inactive listening: makes no attempt to "hear" or understand the meaning of the feedback.  
 Rationalizing: finds explanations for the feedback that dissolve any personal responsibility.  
 Patronizing: listens, but shows little interest.  
 Superficial: listens and agrees, but gives the impression that the feedback will have little actual effect.  

Positive/Open Style
 Open: listens without frequent interruption or objections.  
 Responsive: willing to hear what's being said without turning the table.  
 Accepting: accepts the feedback, without denial.  
 Respectful: recognizes the value of what is being said and the speaker's right to say it.  
 Engaged: interacts appropriately with the speaker, asking for clarification when needed.  
 Active listening: listens carefully and tries to understand the meaning of the feedback.
 Thoughtful: tries to understand the personal behavior that has led to the feedback.  
 Interested: is genuinely interested in getting feedback.
 Sincere: genuinely wants to make personal changes if appropriate.


Giving Feedback
The other end of feedback is giving it. Some people deliver feedback with relish; after all, it's easier to give advice than take it. Some use feedback as a weapon, or offer it as tit-for-tat. For others, feedback is a great way to be critical.

How you deliver feedback is as important as how you accept it, because it can be experienced in a very negative way. To be effective you must be tuned in, sensitive, and honest when giving feedback. Just as there are positive and negative approaches to accepting feedback, so too are there ineffective and effective ways to give it.

Ineffective/Negative Delivery
 Attacking: hard hitting and aggressive, focusing on the weaknesses of the other person.
 Indirect: feedback is vague and issues hinted at rather than addressed directly.  
 Insensitive: little concern for the needs of the other person.
 Disrespectful: feedback is demeaning, bordering on insulting.
 Judgmental: feedback is evaluative, judging personality rather than behavior.  
 General: aimed at broad issues which cannot be easily defined.  
 Poor timing: given long after the prompting event, or at the worst possible time.
 Impulsive: given thoughtlessly, with little regard for the consequences.  
 Selfish: feedback meets the giver's needs, rather than the needs of the other person.

Effective/Positive Delivery
 Supportive: delivered in a non-threatening and encouraging manner.  
 Direct: the focus of the feedback is clearly stated.  
 Sensitive: delivered with sensitivity to the needs of the other person.  
 Considerate: feedback is intended to not insult or demean.
 Descriptive: focuses on behavior that can be changed, rather than personality.
 Specific: feedback is focused on specific behaviors or events.
 Healthy timing: given as close to the prompting event as possible and at an opportune time.  
 Thoughtful: well considered rather than impulsive.  
 Helpful: feedback is intended to be of value to the other person.  

The Importance of Feedback
Feedback is a must for people who want to have honest relationships. A powerful and important means for communication, feedback connects us, and our behavior, to the world around us.

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Re: The Stranglehold of Narcissism
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2006, 12:31:54 PM »
Hi, Moon,

  If having a tolerance for N behavior means developing a thicker skin to not absorb N's toxin, I think that's absolutely necessary and a wonderful development.

 You're right about there always being some justification by N. It's like the "I'm sorry, but you made me do it" rubbish. N always, always plays the victim of circumstances and forces beyond her/his control, it seems, which is really incongruous considering he lives his life behaving as though he's "god" incarnate.

  Can't really invest in a bottomless pit at all. Anything poured in just drains out, so what we give to N needs to have no strings attached, lest we get pulled in after him. Been there, huh. Not going back. ((((((((Moon))))))))

Moon, N's don't know anyone because they don't know themselves. I'm so glad you're done trying to influence him and your family will benefit from these gifts within the problem which... is no longer a problem  :)

Love,
Hope