Author Topic: You hereby have permission to grieve  (Read 6074 times)

Portia

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2006, 12:09:15 PM »
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Bad things do happen to good people.

I'm glad you had joy in your life last night Moon. 8)

moonlight52

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2006, 12:19:01 PM »
Hey P   

I hope I have done all the right things for my children I told her when she was dating the exbf I thought he was no good.
But she thought he was OK.We are OK now .I just am trying to get out of the crisis mode like
"are my sweeties going to get hurt I think and worry about that a lot"

I am working on that feeling and after last night and all of us together and my darling is OK and that is helping so much.

But still I have never felt so much hatred for another being and with my own child abuse issues I found my way here .......................

thanks P

I am OK now

love ,
moonlight
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Hopalong

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2006, 12:21:10 PM »
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Advertising – soaps – social conditioning stuff – real people are not like that. Real people all have problems and all find life difficult in one way or another. Remove the advertising - or the illusion - and the envy goes too.

Hear hear P. I got so mad when I had my feminist "consciousness raising" that I've never again been able to absorb media uncritically. Doesn't mean I'm mad at the TV all the time, but I constructed a very strong inner tape that counteracts the trance. So, when I see my faves, Susan Sarandon and Diane Keaton, selling cosmetics, I am disappointed. But then I watched the Keaton one again and realized the script was quite strightforward and that she lets her wrinkles show and is delighted to be herself. So that, plus the Dove campaign, are hopeful signs there's beginning to be blowback. Aging boomers don't like being told they're ugly and useless now, so I think we'll be some feisty sexy old gray panthers. I hope the next generation notices, since they're hammered so hard wit the images.

Whoops, this is a total detour as you were talking about the culture's advertising the Cleavers. But I guess it's all the same process. An overidealized image that noone can achieve without hiding and stuffing themselves. Doesn't mean that a healthy family would never smile and cuddle, but they'd also have their off days! It is idiotic for the media to not be more creative. I love the subversive shows and ads...they're out there.

Moon, you bring such joy talking about your family. They are so lucky all of them, to have you. Your love and ability to feel so happy to see them happy...you are like the polar (lunar  :)) opposite of an N. Thank you for sharing these stories. I am so glad your D who was assaulted is okay. Horrible experience for all of you, but it's clear it's brought you even closer as a family.

Hugs,
Hops  PS--I wear cosmetics and love to look good. It's just that the anorexic 14 y/os in advertising hurt us, I think. So actually it's great to see middle aged women getting some space! Next, let's look for more ads with alternative family structures.

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"That'll do, pig, that'll do."

Brigid

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2006, 12:23:48 PM »
Moon,
Sorry I got confused regarding the hospital situation.  I thought you were referring to when she was an infant.  But it doesn't matter how old they are, does it?  We want to be there to hold them and protect them when they are hurting.  I'm so sorry for what she went through, but she was so lucky to have her Moon family to support her.  It is wonderful to hear that she once again feels safe and secure enough to live on her own and can trust a new relationship.

Try not to be sad when thinking of that time.  I know--easier said than done--but you stuck together as a family and I guarantee it made you stronger and brought you closer.  That's the way families are suppose to work.  Sometimes I think it's a fairy tale, but you are proof that the real thing exists.  Bless you and all your moon beams.

Hugs and love,

Brigid

moonlight52

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2006, 12:36:57 PM »
Brigid my oldest is 28 and she was in hospital a year ago and is doing so well now it amazes me sometimes

Also my younger d is 14 and when she was born she weighed 5 pounds and lost weight and had to stay in hospital a few extra days.

Well no need to wallow They are two bright and shiny darling and my oldest said mom this happened to me at the same age as when you lost
your twin we both went though hard stuff at the same age but we are OK now huh.

I said yes sir reeeeeeeeeeeee

love to all

P.S speaking of aging baby boomer's Emmy Lou Harris is just about the cutest thing around...........................

Hopalong

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2006, 03:21:00 PM »
I loooooooove Emmy Lou! Voice like an angel.
I went to see her once in a very small hall, sat at a table right in front.
She's my gray-haired hero! (Pretty foxy, too.)  :lol:

Hops
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moonlight52

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2006, 05:32:02 PM »
jac I did not become strong til I came here thank you

moon

Love to you

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moonlight52

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Re: You hereby have permission to grieve
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2006, 05:36:03 PM »
jac..............................I got to go pick up moonlet at school she is in the 8th grade I can not believe it..................................

                                                                  And then she is coming with me to vote 8)




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