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Hopalong

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Just the Right Thing
« on: November 09, 2006, 11:13:11 AM »
I've had moments where someone says something simple to me that is so healing. Example: Election Night I went to a church meeting where I needed to do something difficult. Out of my anxiety, I had spent the previous meeting way, way over-talking, being a voice hog, using much more than my fair share of the oxygen. I wanted to get a grip on that behavior without shaming myself or burdening the group. So I told them: As a culmination of two years' job stress, I realized last week that sometimes in an atmosphere where I feel loved and tolerated, I'll talk way too much. I wanted to let the group know I am aware of this, and accountable, and that I think it's not good for our process. So I'm going to be working on that and just wanted to share it.
We had a great meeting, I felt part of things and not shamed (one fellow leaned over and said, "I like you") and we were so productive. I experienced a real sense of being part of a group, not just being "among them". I loved it. In hindsight, I think it might be what people in a healthy family feel like. Long story shorter, afterward one of the ministers walked up and said, you know, you did that with such grace.

My cup ranneth over. That "anchored" my learning and my sense that being accountable is not the same as punishing or shaming or disliking oneself. I was grateful to her.

I thought it'd be nice to have a thread where people could share moments when someone has said just the right thing to them. It's such a gift when that happens.

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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2006, 12:03:19 PM »
Hops, I suppose you just said such a "just the right thing" for me.  At the moment, I'm feeling so lonely and scared to find myself surrounded by N-ish people in my life. It is such an inspiration to know that there is an alternative.

I am SSSOOOOO HAPPY for you, that you have a place where you can be loved and loving and vulnerable.  It is so wonderful to hear!

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 12:52:56 PM »
Well done Hops.  I also think that being grounded enough to put yourself out there without "needing" something back made a big difference in people being able to accept and support you.  I think of times when I have done something like that that wasnot received and looking back I recognize that I was looking for a rescue instead of just acceptance.  Thanks for this post. - GS

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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 03:03:21 PM »
Thanks, New dear. It's the UU church where I feel that level of acceptance. But it took my participation and stepping up, to find the connection and safety I feel there now.

Jac, I am touched. Thank you. I think the response to my sermon and service as a worship leader also helped, because now I stand up there so more people know my face. I had bonded with individuals and small groups over the years, but now it's wider.

GS, I was thinking about you...it took multiple experiences of "showing up" to lay my fear of belonging down. Then, that community began to become my true family. A healing place.

Here's to many Just the Right Things!

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 05:03:03 PM »
Hi Hops

It is a gift to know how to communicate and be vulnerable enough and to share wisdom .

I am so glad at uu the experiences are so well done.

Mr m and I renewed our 20th wedding vows at the uu church .It was so wonderful.

Thank you and much love  :D

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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 08:47:54 PM »
This is a sad story.

People who were here when I started, or have read my old posts, know that I am one of two children and that both my mother and my sibling were N. In one old post I described my belief that some Ns actually do have and make a choice. For a while, my sibling once chose not to be an N, to me, with me, and I thought that healing might be possible.

The choice not to be an N came as the result of a terribly physically painful experience my sibling had to go through. And sadly, despite that terrible pain, the awareness that came from it - and the desire to be different - simply didn't last. But I was, and will always be, grateful to my sibling for seeing and telling the truth, that one time in our lifetimes.

Anyone who is uncomfortable with the idea of either physical or emotional pain should probably not read any further. I can't sanitize the story and leave enough facts to make sense, but I'll be as vague as I can. People who have read my old posts are in for a surprise here, because I always disguised my sibling's gender out of concern that we might be recognized if I didn't. Telling this story requires me to drop that disguise and take the risk. I'm ready to do that at last.

I was living overseas when this happened. One weekend, the phone rang, and when I answered it, my sister was on the line. She was in an emotional state I'd never heard her in before; sobbing so hard she was hiccuping, barely able to get the sentences out, crying and crying and crying.

And saying over and over again "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, God I am SO SORRY, I'm sorry...."

I was frightened - something awful had happened - I tried to get her to calm down - I called her back because she couldn't afford to cry on my shoulder at transAtlantic phone rates - and eventually the story came out.

My sister had been clean and sober for about a year. During this time, she'd been seeing a therapist - and a good one. She had begun taking responsibility for herself in ways she'd never been willing to do before; and among the things she chose to do was to take responsibility for being sexually active. Since she was unable to take even a once daily pill reliably, she chose an IUD.

She was calling me in horror because for the first time in her life, she was experiencing cramping and pain. She was in her first cycle since the IUD had been placed - and she was aghast at the pain, and even more aghast at her guilt - guilt I had known nothing about.

You see, when I was younger, I had pain so severe at that time, that I had to be given narcotics for it at times; I was bedridden for at least a day, each month.

My father's sisters had been similarly affected, but neither my mother nor her sister had ever had problems. As it turned out, my sister never felt so much as a twinge, when her time came.

My sister decided that I was faking it for sympathy, and to obtain drugs [remember, she had a problem with abuse of both drugs and alcohol]. And she made a point of saying this, behind my back, to all of my friends - including my boyfriends - if they called when I was indisposed and she was the one to answer the phone.

It was petty, it was malicious, and it was something I never knew or suspected - none of my friends ever told me about it, and my parents either never heard her or never cared.

So her cramps began, and her doctor offered her codeine for the pain, and she took it - and it worked. She remembered the times I had taken codeine, and she had sneered at me behind my back... and was horrified at her cruelty and insensitivity, at her dishonesty, and at her malice. She was overwhelmed with guilt and had to call me and tell me and make it right.

At this point I was crying myself sick, not because of what she was telling me but because I knew how much pain she had to be in, and I was telling her "It's ok, it's ok, I understand, I understand, it's almost impossible to imagine what it feels like if you never have this, please don't cry, it's all right, it's all right..."

We must have cried together on the phone for an hour... by the end of that hour she was still shaken, but knew I had forgiven her, and I was filled with love and concern for her and with hope for our future as sisters. In our entire lives, this was the first time my sister ever told me that she was sorry for anything she had done to me, and the first time that she ever admitted to deliberately 'doing me wrong'.

Sadly, the change in her did not last. I don't know if I'm sadder that she suffered that much pain, that it took that much pain to break through her N defenses, or that even that much pain was not enough for her to stay aware...

Within a year, she was using again, and within two years, we were estranged. And she was maligning me again, behind my back, about anything and everything.

Edit in: having written this, having read it, remembering it all again but seeing it from here - at last, thank GOD! I pity and mourn for her.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2006, 09:04:37 PM by Stormchild »
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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 10:14:00 PM »
Stormy, thank you for sharing that powerful story.  It is so painful to read.  I can't help but want to rewrite it so that her experience and her call were transformative rather than momentary.  This is the sorrow that is so inconceivable to me so unbareable.  It's as though the ball is traveling the circle of a spinning roulette wheel and it lands on red instead of black but that all you have to do to correct the insanity is to simply move that ball ever so slightly to the black.  So simple, so easy - such life changing differences.

It is this all too common description of life in family that pains us all so deeply.  It is in you story that I think of the way to navigate out of the pain is through meditation - where all that is real is not manipulated but what changes is our ability to detach from the emotion of it.

I am so sorry.  It is a story of such waste: waste of love, of relationship, of support, of comfort, of kindness, of familiy and all that is good.  So easy to change on your sister's part yet she opts for the pain rather than the peace.

Your story is the story of so many.  It reminds me how important it is for me to detach from the emotional charge of such rejection.
I am sorry for your pain and for your sister's loss of what could have been wonderful, kind supportive and loving relationship.  I am sorry that your story is the story of so many of us.  What a waste - a true waste.

Thank you for sharing -- Gaining Strength.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 11:40:15 PM »
My eyes are closing so I'll comment individually tomorrow, but my therapist said just the right thing today. She hasn't seen me in about a year, and I asked her how I look, she said 'more solid, more together, more alive!'

I thought it was very revealing how we 'wear' our inner misery even when we try to hide it inside- and how inner health and happiness shines through even when we're tired and a bit stressed!

Goodnight everyone.

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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 11:57:45 PM »
about saying the right thing.... I think you say the right thing very consistently to people. I have been noticing an incredible gift that you have of speaking in a compelling and beautiful way without using cliches. So you have a voice and a paricularly eloquent one. I hope you don't start speaking in sound bites and continue to speak and do it as long as you want to.
I wonder what the response of the group was. Did they agree with you? In Native culture they let people speak as long as they want to.This seems to be fine as long as everyone has the same perogative and there is trust in the group.
I agree that someone who monopolizes the group's time for no other reason than needing attention or control is annoying and undermines the group. I am glad you brought up the point.
Who leads?  How do we have a healthy group that communicates well, intimately,honestly, and productively? It takes healthy individuals.
I will watch for those moments when someone says or does just the right thing. Today it was my cat who layed on my heart while i was crying and he purred. It was so comforting.

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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 01:44:38 AM »
Hi Sea,
Noone made a specific comment, but we were sitting in our warm circle with a little chalice lit and I was looking into my friends' faces and just saw love.

Storm,
I'm sorry too. It must have been awfully hard to have her validate you, sparking hope of reunion, and then it disappeared... :(

Hops
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Re: Just the Right Thing
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 09:48:19 AM »
Thanks GS, you are exactly right - all the love and courage ended up being wasted. I watched her head back to the using and the dysfunction all bouncy and happy, like a kid going off to the playground. Like watching someone dive into quicksand, head first... nothing I could do about it. Her choice. But so sad, because she actually did have a choice at that time, and - look what she chose.

Jac, thanks for hearing me, and hearing all of it.

Hops, I'm hijacking the thread, didn't intend to, so I'll dust off now.

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