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Dulce

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Confused Emotions
« on: June 28, 2007, 03:03:16 PM »
Hi Everyone,
    I am new here.  I ran into your board during a search and I am glad I did!  I hope I've come to the right place to let it all out because there is so much that is eating me up and the people who I have to talk to I feel are too biased to understand sometimes.  Ok, here is my story.
I have been married for over 16 yrs now.  I don't really understand what is happening and what is the right thing to do anymore.  My husband has been the love of my life and I have never been without him since I met him until recently.  Everything he ever wanted I did and gave to him unconditionally.  I am a school teacher.  He is a corporate engineer for a large company.  I've done everything I can for him.  When he wanted me to stay at home and raise our two boys, I quit and stayed home.  When he wanted us to move and start his own business, I moved and went back to work.  When he decided to close the buisness and go back to the corporate world(that meant moving the family up to the NJ area), I gave up my Texas life and moved.  He promised us a better life, and a chance to make our family grow, something I wanted and yet postponed due to the start of his own business.  So of course, I went!  While we were there, he changed.  He became very hostile and angry towards me.  For 3 yrs, I took alot of his harsh words and, dear I say,.. neglect.  The move was a culture shock for me and worse was that NJ wouldn't allow me to work with my 10 yrs of teaching experience and my Texas certification.  So I was forced to be a stay at home mom.  Anyone would've enjoyed it.  I know I would have, had my husband supported me.  But he didn't.  He made comments about lack of money and how we couldn't afford to do things.  So basically I shut my mouth up anytime I wanted for us to go out and enjoy our new life.  I saved money as much as I could so we could do small things here and there, but it all became about lack of money. Belive it or not, I tried to look for a job, but nobody would hire me.  You would think that a woman with a bilingual, early childhood, science and math specialist with 10 years of experience in elementary education would be able to get a decent job.  But I didn't.  Nobody would hire me.  Maybe it's because I was hispanic.  Maybe my fear got the best of m e and I didn't try hard enough.  I don't know.  What it comes down to is that my husband got frustrated w/me all the time.  Fights escalated and worse is, I fell from the top of the stairs one day when everyone was at work and at school, and when they all got home, mom was practically bedridden.  You'd think hub would've been compassionate then but it got worse.  This meant I had to do things at home w/pain in my back.  Nothing changed but me.  My physical health went down.  If it wasn't my back, it was the migraines I began to develop, or the broken cartlidge on my kneed I some how ended up with... or worse was the sudden development to a severe shrimp allergy I got suddenly out of the blue that caused me to go into shock everytime I got near it.  All in all, I think you get the idea.  After a few years, hub started to tell me I should go back to Texas w/the kids.  I refused.  I didn't want to seperate the family.  His logic was that I would be able to work in Texas as a teacher, we'd have more money and family would be there for me to get help w/the boys.  After 3 yrs of fighting this, I finally gave up and moved.  This is where I am right now.  He told the boys that we were still a family and nothing changed, that we have now 2 homes and blah blah blah... yet i found out a month ago, he took a woman and her friend (so he says) to Florida on a get-away weekend.  After I confronted him, he said it meant nothing, yet 2 weeks after that, I found out he was taking her to Niagra Falls!  I pay the phone bill so I know he just met her.  I made the mistake of texting her,  "He may not be a good husband but he's the father of my kids and they better not get hurt because of YOU!  I know who you are." (yes stupid me)  Well, my kids ended up hearing him yell at me on the phone when this happened b/c he called me whiile i was in the grocery store and told me not to bother her b/c she was an innocent and good woman.  Of course that boiled me and it hurt the kids.  All in all, up to date... I asked him if this was a serious thing w/her and he said no.. but he never has said it will never happen again.  I asked him what it was about her that he was drawn to and he said, she is self-sufficient AND she doesn't make him feel threatened.  Worse is, during all this turmoil, he tells me he got a vasectomy and can't get her pregnant. THAT broke my heart.  It's been a year now and the boys and I are on our own.  We are planning on buying a house soon with my new teaching job.  I don't ask anything from him.  I just take what he gives which isn't much.  He got promoted in his job and is now on his way up the corporate ladder.  He takes trips to see "the boys"... I'm no longer included in his words anymore.  Everything is for the boys.  Our 16th anniversary was this past friday.  I got 2 dozen roses w/a letter attached saying, "We have alot to celebrate.  We have 2 beautiful boys and a long term friendship".  That's it.  No "i love you" or "happy anniversary".  Nothing.  I've tried talking to him about what is going to happen but he blows up and yells at me.  I did that on Thursday before the Anniv. and it was a mistake.  He called to see how i was doing and i was honest.  I told him i was down because our anniversary was coming up and I was feeling depressed and basically that I missed him.  He got so upset ... he called his boss and told him he wanted off the project b/c he had too much stress coming from his marriage. :(  Made me feel like it was my fault.  He then text me "I'm filing for divorce".  Yet, the next day, he calls me like if nothing.  Asked if I got the flowers and said he was coming in July for a week and a half to spend time with the boys.  I am so confused!!! I don't know what to do anymore.  I feel like the daisy with the he loves me, he loves me not... and I'm starting to wilt.  I've been on my own for a year now.  I have friends now.  That includes guy friends too.  One of them likes me but I've told him I am not ready and neither are the boys.  He loves the boys and the boys love him too, except my little one is starting to put up a guard with him.  We are going to counseling and the counselor told me that the boys think Mom is NEVER going to do what dad did.  Mom is never going to date or marry again.  I don't know how to feel.  I don't know what to think.  I'm so confused.  Not to mention scared.  Nobody understands why I'm scared.  I can't deny it.  I still have feelings for him.  I feel sad for my kids b/c they have gone through so much (my little one is 9 yrs old and has had 8 homes!!!), I like the guy who's coming around b/c he makes me feel normal, yet I'm scared that if hub finds out about him, he will get mad at me and start yelling and causing me more stress than I already have.  One thing I've learned in all of this is that being a single parent is the hardest thing any person can ever do when she doesn't get support from her family or friends.  I don't even know what I'm asking from this group... to listen.. to help.. I am so confused about everything now. I don't know what's right or wrong anymore.

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Re: Confused Emotions
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 04:19:52 PM »
Welcome, Dulce.

Oh, dear.

You don't have a husband, hon.

Please, go talk to a lawyer. Right now.
And keep it to yourself completely.

Don't tell anyone at all, just go talk to the best divorce attorney you can find.
And maybe another. The first consulations are usually free or very inexpensive.
Tell them everything you just told us. (Print out your first post and give them a copy...it's a good summary.)

This does not commit you to anything. But the information is critical to your survival.

Please forgive me for being so blunt, but I have a feeling you need to do it NOW.

Welcome here. We'll hear you, and many wise voices here will be able to help.

Gently,
Hopalong
« Last Edit: June 28, 2007, 05:10:59 PM by Hopalong »
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 04:51:36 PM »
Dulce,

I agree with hops. I am so sorry for your heartbreak.


Yes now is the confusion time that we all have been through.  The emotions, ups, downs are overwhelming but you will be able to get through this. You lived with a Fake. 

Go back and read what you wrote in this post. 

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I asked him if this was a serious thing w/her and he said no.. but he never has said it will never happen again.  I asked him what it was about her that he was drawn to and he said, she is self-sufficient AND she doesn't make him feel threatened.
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Worse is, during all this turmoil, he tells me he got a vasectomy and can't get her pregnant.
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I take this as:  She has her own money, I have no intentions of marrying her or getting her pregnant (that means that I would have to shell out some cash) she's not a threat LIKE YOU!  You own half of everything we have.  He knows your a threat.  He knows you have power and he is not in total control if you decide to divorce him. He will lose MONEY! 

I believe that is why he texted you he wants a divorce then to not mention it again.  He lost his temper then realised he has way to much to lose.


Dulce, I know it's very painfull and very hard to face.  Your in shock.  I hate to be blunt also but I have been there. It is like a knife through your heart to find out how betrayed you have been and to have your whole world rocked wondering was anything ever real?

I know you still have feeling for him and your emotions are all over the place.  Please protect yourself financially right now.  Get an attorney. 

He's planning things.  They always do.  Now you start planning.

Oh and Hops is right don't tell anyone about an attorney. 
Let the attorney contact him.


We are here to support you.

Deb

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Re: Confused Emotions
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 04:56:33 PM »
Dulce,

To add,

It's not you Hon, it's him.  He's being mean, selfish, manipulating and mentally abusive.

Deb

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 05:41:14 PM »
Yes.  I understand now.  You have made me see something I didn't see before.  I think I let my emotions get in the way too much.  I thought the threat meant emotionally.  I felt like it was me being the nag or demanding wife all this time and that is why he went to another woman... i thought that is how he felt threatened by me... but  I see now it's all about the money and I see what you mean that I am a threat to him because he does have alot to lose with me.  No wonder he backed down on the filing for divorce.  He said we would talk about it and come to some agreement.  I thought it was about US.. but I see now it's about the money.  I'm only setting myself up for another heartache.  Only problem I do have is that I know for a fact that he doesn't have much money right now.  If he's done anything for me is he is giving me the money for the downpayment on my new house.  He will not pay for it on a month to month basis but he is giving me the downpayment which I don't have at this time.  I guess my problem right now is I just don't want to piss him off until I get the house.  Is that mean and manipulating of me?  But you're right.  I will talk to a lawyer (i have two biz cards from two different ones).  I am going to let things with my new house settle down, and in the mean time I will go sit down with someone and see what they have to say.  And yes, I know I've been mentally and emotionally abused and deprived.  I think that is why I'm having a hard time dealing with all of this.  I've been very hurt all these years.  I guess my plan has always been to get enough of my self-esteem and inner strength back to file for divorce.  That's what it took for me to walk out after 15 yrs in the first place.  I guess I need to figure out how to get more strength within me to go the next step.  I appreciate your words.  Sometimes it helps to have other ppl tell it like it is.. and I do appreciate it!

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 06:22:47 PM »
Dear Dulce,
   I am so very,very sorry. You sound strong underneath all the pain.                Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 07:15:06 PM »
Hello Dulce-
 Thank you for your post. I have been suffereing a great deal, and your story has helped me. My N husband won't work, spends a fortune on pornography and Starbucks, eating out, etc., more than what he gets from his early retirement. I must pay foreverything and live on very little . He makes huge messes all day, and will not help.Our savings are almost gone. He tells me that I am ugly, and ridicules my disability, saying that he hates me, wants me to die, that he willl kill me, etc. I have asked him to leave,and he has been even more threatening than usual. I haven't been to the beach or on vacation for years, and he plays softball 5 days a week. Please pray for me, I want to live again.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 07:42:09 PM »
Thank you so much for talking with me- I am so isolated. N H left his company (he was going to be fired). He gets a small amount of money, but is too young to really retire. I do not have children with him, but I do have dogs and cats, and we own a home (I have to pay the mortagage). N H is irresponsible- has gone bankrupt, defaulted o student loans, had cars repossessed, defaulted on his own mortagage- I don't want to lose everything. I have done the landscaping, painting, pulled up the carpet, sanded and finished the wood floors, paid to have AC installed, etc, and paid this mortgage for years (he has done nothing), while he frittered away "his" money. We only go out to do laundry (the washer needs to be replaced). He doesn't help much there either. He will bring the items in, though that's because he wears 5 uniforms a week (no one else that he plays with wears them), as well as other gear and clothing for softball,so he generates an enormous amount of laundry. But we never go to movies, etc- he's too busy or too tired, and I don't deserve to go anywhere until all of the house renovations are done! I want to enjoy the summer. I go to church, sometimes several times a week, and I know that "God hates divorce", yet I am so lonely, my life is constant drudgery and being cursed and threatened, and I want to go out and have fun. I hope that he leaves peacefully.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 05:35:40 AM »
Dulce,

Reading your post brought up all sorts of things for me.  What really struck me was the incredible abuse and confusion you are living in.  Obviously this man has no respect for you are your children.  He is such a game player and reminds me of XN.  The confusion is a game to sap your energy and leave you in a state of confusion so that you are unable to move on.  Take the advice here and get your own life back.  You sound like a sincere and good person who has been systematically played with for his pleasure.  I hear all the blaming coming from him.  I know this guy and the likes of him.  He is suck the live out of you until there is nothing left unless you save yourself.l



Please talk to a lawyer and a good therapist...... you are movin girl.

axa

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2007, 08:32:39 AM »
Hi Dulce.

I read your post last night but was too tired to respond then.

Your husband, in my view, sounds like he has traits of borderline personality disorder.  His moods are flip/floppy and he doesn't seem stable at all.  Would he be willing to go get evaluated by a psychiatrist? If not, there are ways you can examine his behaviors and determine what you are dealing with.

~Laura

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 07:54:48 PM »
Dulce:

Welcome. Thank goodness you have the presence of mind to reach out for help even though you have been ground down by this cad. His lying is crazy making and I agree with aXA that it is designed to continually keep you off balance.

You have the symptoms of psychological and physical breakdown that many of us get before we admit we have had enough abuse ( or begin to die).
This man has no concept of giving and he just takes and manipulates.
As for him helping with the purchase of a house for you and the boys. Hmmmmm unlikely.  He will be entitled to half the house at least so it is not your house. Watch out. Get a  lawyer. Talk to three lawyers and usually the good ones will let you have one interview at a much reduced rate.

This may seem like a very big step to take. It seems like getting a lawyer is harsh but it is survival and will create some safe boundaries for you. As it is now you are a sitting duck for his antics. And he does not mean you well.
Saying that he didn't want you to contact the other woman because she is so  blah blah blah was shocking to me.  The fact that you didn't want to do him some heinous personal injury was a sign that you are used to this kind of bs.

You have really loved this guy and it is hard to come out of denial about what an idiot he is and how mean spirited and lacking in integrity.  However, the cat is out of the bag now and your journey has probably begun unless you want to take him back and lose more of yourself in the next go round. Your body was warning you. Your back seized up and you had migraine headaches.

Read all you can about narcissists. There are lots of references mentioned here.  You are not a victim. You have been a target.
I am so sorry this happened to you.  Your husband is probably blaming everything on you and it just fills your head and you feel like you are in a fog.
Thank goodness you are on your own.  Keep it that way until you find your way out of this maze.  Otherwise, you are probably just going to repeat history.

Keep writing here. Don't be afraid to pour out your story in detail. This is the path to healing.

Love,
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