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BonesMS

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2007, 04:04:57 PM »
The information here is fascinating- I never connected my NH's somatic complaints with his N condition. He has suffered since his late teens from a choking sensation, the origin of which has evaded extensive medical investigation. He also uses another name, which the article mentions is a device for "self-parenting". I suppose his N behavior was a coping mechanism of sorts- it seems that others posting are able to deal with the N behavior in spouses better than I have. This is he first full day that he is gone, and I am thinking about my contributions to the chaos of our marriage.

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How about considering the possibility of taking a breath and focus on (1) the peace and quiet within your house (no screaming, cursing and porn going on), (2) the beginning of the healing within yourself now that King Baby is no longer dumping on you?  Just a few thoughts for now!

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2007, 04:36:26 PM »
Bones-

Yes! Good idea!

Thank you,

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2007, 09:06:33 AM »
Bones-

Yes! Good idea!

Thank you,

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2007, 10:46:15 AM »
To me, it feels like N-ish behavior because she appears to "give herself permission" to impose on others and she "assumes it's OK" because she assumes that everyone else thinks the same way she does.  One of the times she wanted to do something that was inconvenient at the time, and I told her "No, not now", she complained that I was "being difficult".  She got an earful, from me, about how she needs to stop and think about how what she wants to do impacts other people around her.  Then she started to act "pseudo-stupid", which annoys the hell out of me!

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So......would this be classified as "N-ish behavior" or "Narcissism"?

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2007, 11:48:28 AM »
Hope-what your H is doing is called gaslighting.  This is where someone manipulates you and makes you feel uneasy and unsure of yourself.  It is because of their manipulations but then they suggest you are unstable and need to get counseling.  For years I was convinced that I was the one with the problem and when I finally did all the research and realized she was projecting all her stuff on me and accusing me of being the one with the problem, it was freeing!
Kelly

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2007, 10:18:36 AM »
I can relate to the last post. My husband, I beleive has NPD and I have a 13 year old son that he has treated horribly since we got married and has always used the excuse that he was causing trouble or that he isn't his biological son. When my husband does things to us and I confront him about it, he never acknowledges or says he's sorry, he just tries to come up with ways to fix our relationship, like ME working on his emotional needs and then he won't be so upset all the time. Even after becoming physically violent in front of my son and he still only talks about our relationship in ways like, "when OUR relationship made a turn for the worse" etc. He won't acknowledge he's the problem. I also wondered if I was crzy and I called his ex-wife once and got my feelings verified. The first thing she said to me was that he was very emotionally abusive and I can't tell you how much better I felt. Of course he reacted like I had cheated on him over it. Thing is my husband wasn't so much like this before we married, but his father killed himself 4 months before we got married and I belive that exsaberated the problem.

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Re: How do know if someone is narsistic?
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2007, 12:15:18 PM »
tx,

I'd like to tell you a bit about my situation.

My husband, like yours, seems to want to put all blame on me for the trouble in our marriage of 20 years.  I finally gave him an ultimatum that he will seek counseling or else.  We had gone to other counselors in the past, but nothing seemed to stick.

Because my husband is slack on paying bills, I had to appeal to the church to help us keep our electric/gas on in our home.  After they paid $500 of our bills, they told us we needed to have debt counseling through church or they could not and would not help us further.  So, last sunday we met with the debt counselor, who told us "you both would really benefit from marriage counseling."  I think that WOKE HIM UP, HEARING IT FROM ANOTHER MALE AUTHORITY.  He agreed to go for counseling, but said "I guess it wouldn't hurt to go one time."  I told him, "ohhhhhhhhh no.  I'm not playin that game.  We are going to counseling regularly as we need it."  He said "ok whatever."

Well, today during church, I showed him an announcement about marriage encounter.  He asked me "did you see THIS one?"  It was a 2 hour marriage thingy.  I said "maybe we could do both?"  He said "I dunno. maybe."

So, we are on our way to a healthier marriage, thank GOD! 

As far as the physical violence you mentioned...my husband's idol, his father, was raised in an orphanage.  His father was brutal with the children, molested both my husband's sisters, and never asked forgiveness to my knowledge for any of it.  My husband's mother stayed with the man WHILE HE WAS MOLESTING HER DAUGHTERS...to this day, my sister in law is angry about her mother not apologizing and admitting to what happened.  My husband is the most like his father of all the sons.  He has always painted his father as "giving the shirt off his back to anyone in need."  I can tell you, I met the man...that much WAS true.  ANy time we visited his father, he gave us things.  He seemed to have a good heart, buried under the hurt and loneliness from not having had parents raise him and love him.  The man was sexually explicit in conversations, as well as quite violent in them.

My husband grew up with a tyrant for a father.  Even when his dad came to visit us, my husband showed him crafts he was working on...shelves...and his father always told him how they'd never sell, weren't built right, would be a disgrace to his talents, etc.  I can recall my husband's face just dropping due to his father's disapproval.  My husband doesn't remember any of it.  Go figure...sigh.

There were several instances, when my husband was physically abusive to my oldest daughter, his stepchld.  Finally, my bioogical mom told me if she ever heard that I stood back and allowed the abuse, she would report BOTH OF US and we'd lose our children.  From that point on, I refused to let my husband use corporal punishment on my children.  To this day, he still insists when we have issues with them, "if you would have let me "discipline" them, when they were young..."  The problem was not lack of discipline.  The problem was my children's father was raised in a home that was practical, farm-centered, and very non-emotional other than anger.  All my husband has known all his life, was that, to be approved, you WORKED LIKE A HORSE!  He tried to raise our girls as boys.  He tried to make them TOUGH.  It was very hard on me for sure, but one thing was, no matter what he did, I did NOT ALLOW HIM TO RAISE A HAND TO THEM!

I will tell you, whether you choose to stay with your husband or not, you must DISALLOW any physical abuse.  Whatever it takes, do not allow it.  If the man is verbally abusive, remove the children from his presence and learn to not internalize it.  If you are not in personal counseling, I will let you know, it has really helped me to have someone outside the situation to talk to about it, even when my husband refused to go.  Another thing is, read read read listen to tapes, watch videos, research the internet for information on bettering relationships, handling controllers, letting go of abusive partners...whatever...just DO IT for yourself, hon.  Seriously.  LIfe is SHORT in the grand scheme of things.  YOu owe it to yourself to do what's best for you and to take care of your children's mother.

PLease let me/us know how things go.  You'll be in my prayers.

~Laura