diagnosing

[Lupita]

I always give opinions, but never give dioanoses.

My mother has never been in jail. She has never broken the low. She has never stold money from anybody, only from me, she always follows the rules wherever she goes. She pays taxes, she works three jobs 12 hours a day to be able to make an equivalent of 300 dollars. She always obeyed her parents.

She has an outstanding behavior in school all her life. She never fights with any body. Just me.

It is amazing how people just by reading this board for a few months dare to give diagnosis.

I went to medical school in my country, not licensed here, that is why I am teaching in high school I am certified teacher.
But I was a complete doctor in my country, and I have passed all the boards in USA but not get a license because to get a lincense you have to be admited in a program in a hospital, and due to my age, nobody wanted me.

I have never given diagnosis to anybody. I do not know what degrees have people here, but I understand that many are supported by their husbands and do not even make a single penny.

I think I need a brake because I am going to explode.

My mother is N, idiot, selfish b@@@tch but not a sociopath.

Please, read the following article.

http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~mcafee/Bin/sb.html


Please forgive me if I take a brake for a couple of weeks.

[Lupita]

I beg you for your forgiveness. I was extremely mad. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Please forgive me.

[towrite]

I am so-o sorry, Lup. Please forgive me.

[towrite]

Lup - I was reacting your your mother's extreme cruelty to you. It was only my opinion. Sorry.

[Lupita]

Now I understand why people give vague statements. They do not specify. I asked direct questions to Hopalong, she never answered them She asnweres in a wonderfuly nice way, helpful way but never answer specifics.

Now I understand. It hurst when you open your heart and information is misunderstood.

I am sorry for being mad, I am very sorry. I do not understand why I am mad.

My little kid is mad. The adult is askign me to ignore ignoratn people, but I am sad, so sad so sad.

I am very very sorry.

Please, nobody PM. I hate PM.

[Lupita]

Towrite, I am very sorry, you forgive me, please. I am very sorry. I exploded, I do not know why. Please, forgive me Towrite, I love you, please, I love you and please forgive me.

[Lupita]

Sociopath writes bad checks, my mother does not owe money to anybody. She works like a beast. She hates me.

Sociopath burn animals. My mother would be sad to hurt a dog.

Sociopath gables, my mother has never been to a casino in her life.

Sociopath are homeless, my mother has properties

[Ami]

Dear Lupita,
  You are angry. You are in shock. You are facing deep, deep pain .Lupita, what you are going through is part of the healing. Lupita, it is so, so, so hard to face these things.   I am still woozy and sick. It is so, so hard. I can see why people never face these things.Many people take drugs so as not to face what you are facing.
   Lupita, if you take this journey to healing, it will involve this type of despair and panic that you are having. It is part of it.
  The only other choice is not to heal and then your life (or mine)  does not work...   I will help in any way that I can   I think that what happened is simply that you started healing and panicked . No one is mad at you. It is O.K.No one's opinion really matters but yours, dear. You are O.K. You are just panicking b/c you are healing                   Love   Ami

[towrite]

Honey, darling Lup - I know it's only your own emotional roller coaster. It's a hard thing to face, to grasp, the truth about your mother. Children never believe the trusted adult in their life can have a bad side. Perhaps she was very jealous of you - you are smart, funny, capable, and hard-working. A lot for her to be jealous of.

[Lupita]

Diagnostic Criteria (DSM-IV)

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:
    A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
    B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
    C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
    D. Repeated assaults on others.
    E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
    F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
    G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.

2. At least eighteen years in age.

3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.

4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.

[lighter]

Sociopath writes bad checks, my mother does not owe money to anybody. She works like a beast. She hates me.

Sociopath burn animals. My mother would be sad to hurt a dog.

Sociopath gables, my mother has never been to a casino in her life.

Sociopath are homeless, my mother has properties

My sociopath doesn't have a criminal record, though he's a criminal.

He works like 5 regular men.

He's never been homeless and is a property owner as well.  

He doesn't gamble in any traditional sense of the word but..... he engages in risks that are definately gambling.... but with his life and his family's lives.  

I didn't give him this lable, our psychotherapist did: /  

Sociopaths can't be cubby holed any easier than N's, IMO...and the borders blurr at every edge as far as I can see.  

Sorry you're upset Lupe.  

I think that anger needs to come out and show itself.

[towrite]

Lup - if you want to get technical and correct about it, here's what a sociopath does:

"Antisocial Personality Disorder"

1. disregard for and violation of the rights of others
2. decitfulness, lying ... conning others for personal profit or pleasure
3. implusivity
4. irritability, aggressiveness, e.g. physical fights or assaults
5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others
6. consistent irresponsibility
7. lack of remorse

from the "DSM-IV"

Lup - this is not stuff made up from thin air. You are going through a very hard phase. Please be gentle with yourself. I am not attacking you. I care about you.

[Lupita]

It makes me sad when I give an adviise and the advise is never aknowldege. I am not saying to do what I say. Just to aknowledge that I have an advise, good or bad. But my advises are many times ignored. Of course not by everybody. There are some people that are always grateful. But it is sad when that happenes because it seems like I am talking to my family. The same.

[Ami]

Dear Lupita,
   I have to say that facing this is almost unbearable. I am "Miss Natural', But I really want to go on some type of a medication b/c I hurt SOOOOOO badly.
  I am not going to do it b/c I believe that the pain is showing me what I need to see,but it is one of the worst things i have ever been through.                               Love    Ami

[Lupita]

My mother is an N, not a sociopath.

If we are going to DX here I would DX several as N in thsi same board. I would never do that of course.

But when I see people who do not even work and make anice life, and come here and complain how bad life is, it makes me very disappointed.

I do not like women who do not know how to work, make money, and come here and complain.

IN THIS WORLD, EVERYBODY SHOULS WORK.