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Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
Tweety:
--- Quote --- Let's make a pact--right now_- to trust our intuition. How about it?
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:):)I tweety, solemnly swear to trust my instincts from this day forward :)
Thank you soooo much Ami for picking up on that Dangerous part in him.
Unfortunately I have to work with him , thank God it wasn't me choosing to be around him....lol
--- Quote --- I am going to start to go to a 3 D support group ,like you recommended.
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Oh (((((((((((AMI))))))))))))))))) I am so happy for you, I hope you find one that "Fits" for you...It took me going to a few different meetings before I found one that fits. So please don't get discouraged... Remember people in these groups have issue's lol.lol don't we all
--- Quote --- I think that if we faced it as kids, we might have gone insane-- literally. Now, we are left broken b/c of them.. The worst thing in our brokenness is not trusting ourselves.
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Oh AMI , I cry for us both
But "Our" spirit ,yours and mine wouldn't truly let us be defeated. We have gone through Hell and back.........places not very many people have experience... I like to think of it as HEY WE HAVE LIVED LIKE NO OTHER AND HAVE SEEN SO MUCH IN THIS WORLD :P.... Maybe God gave us this because he knew we would fight our way back to our true spirit our true selves.
Now I toast.... may the rest of our lives be as wonderful as the first half was horrible.
Love to you
Tweety
Ami:
Dear Tweety
I had this "neat" sentiment that I want to share. My F has become my biggest advocate. He lives with MY M BUT he is seeing( really seeing) the NPD. He goes to Al Anon so he is trying to be honest in life.
Anyway, Today, he was seeing how she "does not get it". Prior to this, he was trying to get her to "see" how she was. He "thought" that she was seeing herself b/c they can SEEM like they get it,at times.However, they are not REALLY getting it.
Anyway, he called me to tell me about it( that she really did not get it). I felt so affirmed b/c he lives with her. It must be like GS with her F. Other people are validating you. I have NEVER been validated before.
I had a moment when I realized how "normal' people must feel. I felt like I could own myself . I felt like I could keep myself safe and face situations. I felt like I was an adult who could cope. It was so strange b/c I have not felt at all whole since I was 14. and I have NEVER felt like an adult-- ever.
I always wondered 'How did people go out and function in life with out getting sick or exhausted?The answer is that they know who they are, I guess. they have a foundation WITHIN themselves.
I am going to have to ask Hops about this b/c she seems to save the day for me when I am wondering about things like this(lol).
Anyway,it was a moment in time when I had a glimpse that life MIGHT not have to be AGNST, AGNST, AGNST------What does anyone think of this? Thanks Ami
I think that we( survivors of N) live in a totally different "world" than "normal' people. Ours is made up of pain, suffering ,fear guilt, SHAME etc etc.. I bet that "normal" people do not live like this. I am just realizing that I was among "normal" people and looking "normal, but I was an alien. That is why I gave up. I never met an "alien" like me. Having an N mother ,with everyone in denial ,does make you a sort of 'alien". I could only LOOK normal( which I tried very hard to do) but I could not BE normal. THIS is a really big lesson for me.
JanetLG:
Tweety,
I love this:
"Now I toast.... may the rest of our lives be as wonderful as the first half was horrible."
Janet
Tweety:
--- Quote ---I think that we( survivors of N) live in a totally different "world" than "normal' people. Ours is made up of pain, suffering ,fear guilt, SHAME etc etc.. I bet that "normal" people do not live like this. I am just realizing that I was among "normal" people and looking "normal, but I was an alien. That is why I gave up. I never met an "alien" like me. Having an N mother ,with everyone in denial ,does make you a sort of 'alien". I could only LOOK normal( which I tried very hard to do) but I could not BE normal. THIS is a really big lesson for me.
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AMI Hey :x you didn't swear :P :P :P :P
Well whatever "normal" is :? We are all normal or abbynormal :lol: to some degree.
hum.....well thats probably why I was attracted to the abbynormal's , was What I was used to, I "knew" no other way of life.. So in that sense I was pretty normal, for the company I was keepin,,te hee hee.. So now with all my recovery tool's and help I hope to keep better company and it will be a new normal for me.
Janet....Cheers 8)
Love Tweety
Tweety:
--- Quote --- He goes to Al Anon so he is trying to be honest in life.
Anyway, Today, he was seeing how she "does not get it". Prior to this, he was trying to get her to "see" how she was. He "thought" that she was seeing herself b/c they can SEEM like they get it,at times.However, they are not REALLY getting it.
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P.S. Sorry hit the send button to quick.
Just wanted to give a shout out to AL-ANON...... saved my life...
They have a slogan "Let it begin with me" ...there is a trickle down effect, amongst family, loved ones etc. He starts making changes and everyones benefits...
KOODOS for Dad 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
I just love it when stuff comes together and there is real time proof... You are benefiting.
Love Tweety
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