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« Reply #1230 on: January 03, 2010, 07:41:21 AM »
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« Reply #1231 on: January 03, 2010, 08:06:31 AM »
Hi Ya(( Bones))!                                    Ami

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« Reply #1232 on: January 03, 2010, 08:20:27 AM »
This URL contains a link to a YouTube documentary about Autism Spectrum Disorder and Asperger's:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt114120.html

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« Reply #1233 on: January 03, 2010, 10:01:32 PM »

Hi HeartofPilgrimage,

You bring up a very interesting point that I would love to know more about someday: The interaction between the disabilities of the autism spectrum, and narcissism. For example, say if you had a grandmother that had Asperger's disorder. Then, she has a daughter that is neurotypical but the grandmother was unable to model how to understand other people, and was unable to completely understand her daughter's feelings. Could that result in the daughter having narcissistic difficulties, although she might be neurotypical and technically capable of reading other people? And how does that affect the granddaughter down the line, who is born with the difficulties associated with Asperger's and raised with a narcissistic mother?

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the warm,  open hearted and kind way you think about your craft.   (The above paragraph is one many examples I've noticed where your compassion and thoughtfulness are at the forefront of your thinking).  I grew up in a dysfunctional family headed by an unemotional mom who seemed not to care about anything but 'doing'.  As best I'm able to determine, her mothering style was the source of 7 years of unspeakable pain in my life.  During the first half of that 7 years, all I could do was blame, blame, blame.  Somewhere in the second half my thinking began to change from placing blame on her to slowly accepting that she did what she knew how to do.  Lighter (I think she is Mo2 now) says something I truly believe.  She says that if people knew better they would do better.  I believe that about my mom.   There's much that she wasn't able to give me emotionally.  In the end though, she taught me a very important lesson.  She taught me not to look down my skinny nose at others whose struggle is different from mine.  I love it that there are people with hearts like yours 'in the field' of psychology who don't slice and dice people (I know there's a better way to say it, but I'm going to say) along party lines.  

God bless you.  

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« Reply #1234 on: January 04, 2010, 07:50:54 AM »
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« Reply #1235 on: January 04, 2010, 08:02:45 AM »
Good Morning (((Bones)))                   Ami
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« Reply #1236 on: January 04, 2010, 08:17:58 AM »
Good Morning (((Bones)))                   Ami

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« Reply #1237 on: January 04, 2010, 11:00:52 AM »
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« Reply #1238 on: January 04, 2010, 12:35:36 PM »
Happy New Year to my hero, Bones!

And warmest admiration and love to rest'a'y'all too....Pilgrim, TT, everybody...

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« Reply #1239 on: January 04, 2010, 12:40:46 PM »
Happy New Year to my hero, Bones!

And warmest admiration and love to rest'a'y'all too....Pilgrim, TT, everybody...

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« Reply #1240 on: January 04, 2010, 12:45:30 PM »
Thanks, Hops! I got into psychology late in life ... I feel that I have had the best of both worlds. First I got to stay home with my children and now I get to use a lot of what I learned during my stay=at=home years in a career! But right now I am working on trying to conjure up a little compassion for the Ns in my own life ... ironic how I really can feel for Ns and other difficult types if I don't have to invite them to Sunday dinner.

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« Reply #1241 on: January 04, 2010, 04:11:07 PM »
Hi, HoP.

Did you get a chance to look at the like I posted from Wrong Planet?

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« Reply #1242 on: January 04, 2010, 07:35:16 PM »
Bones, yes, I did and thought it was really well done. I also agree, at least to a certain extent, that autism (and related disorders) are more about differences than about "diagnoses." One of the things I realize as I move along in the psychology field, is that people without some kind of "mental" or "behavioral" difference are really few and far between. I get really depressed. My dad was dyslexic. One of my sons struggles with anxiety. Etc. etc. etc. ... my mind works by making really fast connections between really different things, which sometimes means that I am constantly "diagnosing" my friends and family! But I recognize that if something doesn't interfere with you living your life and being happy, then it's not a problem. Well, OK, narcissism is a problem even when the Ns are happy because nobody else around them is happy ... but if they could live in a bubble with no other people then it wouldn't be a problem! And, they run people off and might even drive other people to shoot them, so that is a problem.  I guess I just disproved my own statement. Hmm.


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« Reply #1243 on: January 05, 2010, 08:27:53 AM »
Bones, yes, I did and thought it was really well done. I also agree, at least to a certain extent, that autism (and related disorders) are more about differences than about "diagnoses." One of the things I realize as I move along in the psychology field, is that people without some kind of "mental" or "behavioral" difference are really few and far between. I get really depressed. My dad was dyslexic. One of my sons struggles with anxiety. Etc. etc. etc. ... my mind works by making really fast connections between really different things, which sometimes means that I am constantly "diagnosing" my friends and family! But I recognize that if something doesn't interfere with you living your life and being happy, then it's not a problem. Well, OK, narcissism is a problem even when the Ns are happy because nobody else around them is happy ... but if they could live in a bubble with no other people then it wouldn't be a problem! And, they run people off and might even drive other people to shoot them, so that is a problem.  I guess I just disproved my own statement. Hmm.



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I guess my own approach is the Live and Let Live philosophy.  I have strong reason to suspect that I am an undiagnosed Aspie as face-to-face social situations are OFTEN DRAINING to me.  Can you imagine NEVER being allowed to be yourself because your differences are considered "weird" by Neuro-typicals?  It's like being forced to hide in a closet 24/7 and the claustrophobia eventually starts to build until an emotional meltdown occurs.  Then the labeling and ostracism gets worse.

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« Reply #1244 on: January 06, 2010, 08:07:10 AM »
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