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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #1860 on: October 25, 2010, 08:48:41 AM »
I hear you, Bones.

Me, too.

Hang in there,

Hops

Thanks, Hops!

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« Reply #1861 on: October 26, 2010, 07:57:46 AM »
Hey Bones - I posted a reply yesterday or the day before - and it went "poof"! Looks like the full moon still has it's influence over tech - without rational explanations. Either that - or I'm completely losing my marbles. Oh well, I guess what I said wasn't all that important or it would've "stuck" in my memory.

But, then, it's my turn to be under the weather... woke up with some nasty strep sore throat and chest cough, even tho' I started trying to fight it off a few days ago. Hope you're finally starting to feel whole and better!
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« Reply #1862 on: October 26, 2010, 03:56:00 PM »
Hey Bones - I posted a reply yesterday or the day before - and it went "poof"! Looks like the full moon still has it's influence over tech - without rational explanations. Either that - or I'm completely losing my marbles. Oh well, I guess what I said wasn't all that important or it would've "stuck" in my memory.

But, then, it's my turn to be under the weather... woke up with some nasty strep sore throat and chest cough, even tho' I started trying to fight it off a few days ago. Hope you're finally starting to feel whole and better!

Thanks, P.R.

The extraction site is starting to feel a bit better.  However, I'm feeling emotionally out of sorts and need to ask for some perspective on a situation.

As you may be aware, I attended my high school reunion a few weeks ago.  Part of the preparation included searching for former classmates at a variety of social networking sites as well as searching for snail-mail addresses and phone numbers.  I managed to accumulate about 200 e-mail addresses out of a class of nearly 800.  Recently, one of my former classmates sent me an e-mail asking me to disclose everyone's contact information to her.  (I don't even know her that well.)  I responded, with a "bcc" to other former classmates stating that, out of respect for others' privacy, I cannot disclose that information.  However, I can give them the means to contact her if they wish.  I got a response back from her a short while ago, sounding obviously miffed, because SHE wants to choose who she wants to invite, etc. etc.  I again, repeated, that not everyone in the class wants their contact information disclosed without their expressed permission and THAT needs to be respected.  Maybe it's just me but that demand from her just pisses me off!!!!

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« Reply #1863 on: October 27, 2010, 07:07:18 AM »
Still trying to make sense of a situation.   :?
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« Reply #1864 on: October 27, 2010, 07:26:36 AM »
I think you did the wise, correct thing Bones - no need to waste extra energy on being p-o'd just 'coz what she wants is unreasonable. Even Facebook doesn't let just anyone automatically become a "friend"; you have to accept the request, you know?

Here's an idea, if she keeps bugging you about handing over your hard work: ask her why she's so desperate to restart old friendships - now? What is her reason? And see what she answers. You might be surprised.

Glad to hear you're feeling better; I've come down with a nasty bug... sore throat cough being mentally out of it... so I'm letting myself nap, read, space out and I survived going out to find my cold tea remedy. I felt a little better this a.m. - more "whole" again. But I don't dare try to jump into anything strenuous or stressful yet. I might just stay in my jammies all day today. MIL has to watch picking up bugs from us; the drug she's on could lower her immune system a lot... so I'm sorta quarantined until I can kick this cough. Hubby will be beside himself, if he has to take care of 2 sickies!!
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« Reply #1865 on: October 27, 2010, 07:33:24 AM »
I think you did the wise, correct thing Bones - no need to waste extra energy on being p-o'd just 'coz what she wants is unreasonable. Even Facebook doesn't let just anyone automatically become a "friend"; you have to accept the request, you know?

Here's an idea, if she keeps bugging you about handing over your hard work: ask her why she's so desperate to restart old friendships - now? What is her reason? And see what she answers. You might be surprised.

Glad to hear you're feeling better; I've come down with a nasty bug... sore throat cough being mentally out of it... so I'm letting myself nap, read, space out and I survived going out to find my cold tea remedy. I felt a little better this a.m. - more "whole" again. But I don't dare try to jump into anything strenuous or stressful yet. I might just stay in my jammies all day today. MIL has to watch picking up bugs from us; the drug she's on could lower her immune system a lot... so I'm sorta quarantined until I can kick this cough. Hubby will be beside himself, if he has to take care of 2 sickies!!

Thanks, P.R.!  That gives me a better perspective.

I hope you feel better SOON!!!!!!

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« Reply #1866 on: October 27, 2010, 11:37:27 AM »
Hi Miz Bones,

I have a mildly-Aspie close friend who finds himself getting kind of "stuck" on various interactions with people. For him, the frustration is that he'll say, I don't understand it (whatever the interaction was).

I think he feels that he SHOULD understand everything that happens. So he gets really frustrated when someone's signals or expression or what they say isn't crystal clear ... or consistent with what he's figured out.

(He's also brilliant in many ways. Just the interaction things can really trip him up, and he sort of keeps re-living an encounter, trying to revise it backward. Get it "right.")

It's hard for him to "shrug and let go."

Do you think this idea --saying it to yourself until it works--might help you when these things happen?

Shrug and let go.

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« Reply #1867 on: October 27, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »
Hi Miz Bones,

I have a mildly-Aspie close friend who finds himself getting kind of "stuck" on various interactions with people. For him, the frustration is that he'll say, I don't understand it (whatever the interaction was).

I think he feels that he SHOULD understand everything that happens. So he gets really frustrated when someone's signals or expression or what they say isn't crystal clear ... or consistent with what he's figured out.

(He's also brilliant in many ways. Just the interaction things can really trip him up, and he sort of keeps re-living an encounter, trying to revise it backward. Get it "right.")

It's hard for him to "shrug and let go."

Do you think this idea --saying it to yourself until it works--might help you when these things happen?

Shrug and let go.

love to you,

Hops

Being an Aspie, I tend to perserverate on people/places/things that confuse the heck out of me, trying to figure things out.  I think I've figured out why I found myself feeling so irritated.  This individual seemed to have an attitude of entitlement to the contents of my address book because she assumed that others wouldn't mind plus assumed that her assumption is automatically true,which it is not.  NDoofus had also demonstrated a similar attitude of entitlement to what she wanted and acting on her own assumptions without bothering to do a reality check.  Neither of these two individuals seem to understand that others have a right to boundaries and privacy.  Personally, I don't care who is who.  When anyone demands the contents of my address book, I basically tell them "N-O".  Without trying to brag, some of my friends happen to be well-known celebrities and they have shared their private contact information with me because they know I will guard it like Fort Knox!  Therefore, when individuals like this former classmate cop an attitude because I dare say "No", they tend to pluck my last nerve!

 I've also had my privacy violated when others have disclosed my private contact information to others without my knowledge or permission.  NDoofus gave my contact info to some telemarketers because she ASSUMED "it was okay"!  I HATE TELEMARKETERS!!!!!!  After I reamed out the telemarketer and she apologized for disturbing me because she was acting on information NDoofus had told her, I then called NDoofus and tore her a new a$$hole for giving out my information!!!  She tried to excuse herself because she ASSUMED it was "okay" and her assumptions are ALWAYS MAGICALLY TRUE!!!!  (Stupid B*tch!   :P)  The other violation was worse when I started getting WEIRD letters from a MAXIMUM security unit in a Virginia prison from an absolute TOTAL STRANGER!!!!!  When I read the first letter, I was LIVID!!!!!  Turns out that one of my former acquaintances was visiting her husband, in maximum, and she started giving out my person information to the other inmates there, WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION, because SHE ASSUMED I wouldn't mind!!!!  I was unable to find her after she pulled that stunt!!!  I wonder if she finally realized what I thought about the cr*p she had done!  I returned the other letters, unopened, and I was ANGRY!!!!!!  I've moved from that address and feel relieved that some weird former prison inmate can't suddenly turn up on my doorstep!

So, no, can't just "shrug it off" as I've learned to be hypervigilant the hard way.  Just like I had to be hypervigilant with the sleazy dweeb.  He may have been good in bed but he had NO heart and NO soul!  He was more like an emotional vampire that has to be constantly watched...if that makes any sense.

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« Reply #1868 on: October 27, 2010, 05:39:27 PM »
Hi Bones
I'm not an Aspie - but I don't enjoy the company of most people much (probably partly because I can read them and their interactions!) BUT I can understand your reactions above and what's more I'd probably feel the same, for a little while. Entitlement monsters can drive one nuts. I still remember a particular woman i worked with sixteen years ago and some of her little tricks.

If someone gave my details to a telemarketer I'd go mildly hot-anger nuts. If someone gave my details to someone in prison, I'd....hmmmm....be very unhappy about it in a controlled, firm, cold-anger kind of way.

That's my point of view. People can be complete assholes! Getting angry is a legitimate reaction 8)

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« Reply #1869 on: October 27, 2010, 05:50:00 PM »
Hi Bones
I'm not an Aspie - but I don't enjoy the company of most people much (probably partly because I can read them and their interactions!) BUT I can understand your reactions above and what's more I'd probably feel the same, for a little while. Entitlement monsters can drive one nuts. I still remember a particular woman i worked with sixteen years ago and some of her little tricks.

If someone gave my details to a telemarketer I'd go mildly hot-anger nuts. If someone gave my details to someone in prison, I'd....hmmmm....be very unhappy about it in a controlled, firm, cold-anger kind of way.

That's my point of view. People can be complete assholes! Getting angry is a legitimate reaction 8)

Thanks, Guest!

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« Reply #1870 on: October 28, 2010, 08:28:47 AM »
The first letter, in today's column, is something else!

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« Reply #1871 on: October 29, 2010, 08:40:31 AM »
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« Reply #1872 on: October 30, 2010, 09:52:03 AM »
Morning Bones! (yeah, I slept in... and got distracted yesterday)

How're ya doin'?
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« Reply #1873 on: October 30, 2010, 09:59:39 AM »
Still feeling a bit out of sorts.  The recovery process is S-L-O-W!

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« Reply #1874 on: October 30, 2010, 10:51:58 AM »
I know what ya mean... I started coming down with this blasted cold last Sunday... and I'm still coughing often/hard enough to make my chest hurt.... and my head is still sloshy...despite blowing my nose every 15 minutes.

Yuck-o, huh?
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