Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?

[BonesMS]

Only a Narcissist would do this to an innocent baby!

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-killed-grandchild-says-she-felt-unloved-223858813.html;_ylt=Audp66KVDHGXGNFQNEICFRH99XQA;_ylu=X3oDMTRoNWl2OXViBGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDIwMHBvb2xyZXN0BG1pdANOZXdzIGZvciB5b3UEcGtnA2ZhMjVkMTJkLTU2OTYtMzU2Yi1iNWMxLTRkZDM3NGI5ZTdiOARwb3MDNARzZWMDbmV3c19mb3JfeW91BHZlcgNhNjk4ODc1MC1lOTU5LTExZTAtYmQ3ZC00OGY3ZWIzNzNmMjM-;_ylg=X3oDMTJua2V0OGRpBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDYjBiZGUyNzEtMzU2Mi0zMGQxLTliNzktOGVhODI1ZWE5YWE0BHBzdGNhdAN0ZWNoBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3

[Guest]

Bones

#1 he's an idiot.
#2 she's a psychopath.

He could be educated, she couldn't. Just my opinion.

[BonesMS]

Bones

#1 he's an idiot.
#2 she's a psychopath.

He could be educated, she couldn't. Just my opinion.

Thanks, Freshwater.

When I was watching the video with the baseball idiot, even though I'm certain neither was speaking English, I could pretty much guess the translation of what the wife said to her husband after she gave him THE LOOK!!!!  Based on his gestures, he was trying to make excuses that his wife CLEARLY was NOT buying!!!!  (To make matters worse, he's picking up the toddler by ONE LEG!!!!     What's up with THAT?!?!?!?)

My reaction to #2 is that she is a Psychopathic Narcissist!!  Aren't all Narcissists Psychopathic to some degree?  SCARY!!!!!!   

[Guest]

I didn't watch the video Bones but I did read the text.

Not sure that all Ns are psychos really....but that's just definitions. Scary they are, when they're in your orbit, and when you're affected by them (and when they cause malicious harm to anyone). Psychos that is. Ns can be just a plain pain the .......bottom.

On the other hand, I can watch an N around a baby and think there's danger, so.

[BonesMS]

I didn't watch the video Bones but I did read the text.

Not sure that all Ns are psychos really....but that's just definitions. Scary they are, when they're in your orbit, and when you're affected by them (and when they cause malicious harm to anyone). Psychos that is. Ns can be just a plain pain the .......bottom.

On the other hand, I can watch an N around a baby and think there's danger, so.

Plus I've heard at least one N comment that a kid was "in HER way" because she wanted his mother to instantly drop everything and do what SHE wanted IMMEDIATELY, e.g. shopping N-O-W!  The mother had said "No" because her son's needs had a higher priority than going shopping with the N.

[BonesMS]

 

[sKePTiKal]

Plus I've heard at least one N comment that a kid was "in HER way" because she wanted his mother to instantly drop everything and do what SHE wanted IMMEDIATELY, e.g. shopping N-O-W!  The mother had said "No" because her son's needs had a higher priority than going shopping with the N.

That it, Bones - the bold part - is the "cure" for Nism. It may not cure the person... but if enough people do this enough times... the behavior might eventually be changed. That one simple word... the first that many of us learn, right after Mama and Dada... NO... is the silver bullet/cross/garlic bulb... for Nism.

Disclaimer: it can also be dangerous! Use with caution and always have your exit mapped out in case you have to run!

[BonesMS]

Plus I've heard at least one N comment that a kid was "in HER way" because she wanted his mother to instantly drop everything and do what SHE wanted IMMEDIATELY, e.g. shopping N-O-W!  The mother had said "No" because her son's needs had a higher priority than going shopping with the N.

That it, Bones - the bold part - is the "cure" for Nism. It may not cure the person... but if enough people do this enough times... the behavior might eventually be changed. That one simple word... the first that many of us learn, right after Mama and Dada... NO... is the silver bullet/cross/garlic bulb... for Nism.

Disclaimer: it can also be dangerous! Use with caution and always have your exit mapped out in case you have to run!

Thanks, P.R.

From what I've seen, N's do NOT accept the word "NO" quietly!  Either they fly into a Narcissistic Rage and physically attack you or attack someone they KNOW you LOVE, (like that baby in Virginia), or destroy your property.  I've also observed an N passively-aggressively destroy property belonging to others because either (a) she was jealous of what they had and/or (b) they DARED to say "NO" to what she wanted.  Her passive-aggressive message was:  "If you DARE to defy ME, I'm going to F*** you up!" 

Either way, it's crazy-making and maddening, especially when the N insists that they are ENTITLED to do as they please!   

[Guest]

and Bones, if you can cultivate a fake, or acting, version of your own 'crazy', so that they believe that you will retaliate in kind, or worse, then you might stop them. But you have to look like you would do it, whatever that is, and that is very difficult to achieve - I imagine.

[BonesMS]

and Bones, if you can cultivate a fake, or acting, version of your own 'crazy', so that they believe that you will retaliate in kind, or worse, then you might stop them. But you have to look like you would do it, whatever that is, and that is very difficult to achieve - I imagine.

Thanks, Freshwater.  From my perspective, I didn't have to fake establishing a boundary, which I have every right to do!

I guess, in a way, I managed to achieve that the last time the Nrelatives attempted to threaten me with violence if I DARED to refuse to continue being the "Family Slave".  I was threatened with having the NGCB sent over to my home and have the cr*p beaten out of me for DARING to DEFY my slave-owners.  I responded that if they were all THAT STUPID enough to threaten me with a home invasion, I would have the police waiting for them when their "enforcer" arrived!  (This was MY home, NOT THEIR PROPERTY!)  I also stated that I would be more than happy to air every fragment of the FILTHY FAMILY LAUNDRY for all the world to see to the police and in court!!!  No one showed up and I never heard from them again.  I've been NC from that point on.

[Guest]

Bones,

you get the respect. Noone gets away with threats of violence.

[BonesMS]

Bones,

you get the respect. No one gets away with threats of violence.

Thanks, Freshwater.

[Hopalong]

Yep.

When I first said my first firm adult "No" to my Nbrother...he attacked my daughter.
Basically, tried to destroy both our lives.

It was stunning. Sickening.

NC.

xo
Hops

[sKePTiKal]

Hops & Bones -

I find Ns very seldom carry through their threats. God knows, it would reflect badly on them.
Saying NO loudly and enough times to get them to back off... it's priceless.

I'm so sorry if anyone has experienced different. In that case, I feel one is justified in defending oneself - and I'm not too particular about what that requires. Pirate Code: no mercy, no quarter.

survival of the fittest and all that.

[BonesMS]

Yep.

When I first said my first firm adult "No" to my Nbrother...he attacked my daughter.
Basically, tried to destroy both our lives.

It was stunning. Sickening.

NC.

xo
Hops

Thanks, Hops. 

The only way to stay away from TOXIC NMonsters....NC!