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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #3210 on: February 09, 2012, 12:59:00 PM »
YAY! In a couple hours, try a little sumpin else. I think you're on the mend and that's good news.
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« Reply #3211 on: February 09, 2012, 01:05:03 PM »
YAY! In a couple hours, try a little sumpin else. I think you're on the mend and that's good news.

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« Reply #3212 on: February 10, 2012, 07:20:19 AM »
Still trying to figure out what to do given that I'm not 100% yet and have been unable to get out to get food or gas for the car.
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« Reply #3213 on: February 10, 2012, 08:12:35 AM »
My suggestion is to ask one of your neighbors to borrow some soup & crackers, explaining you've been knocked flat by this bug... or to pick up a few things for you, while they're out shopping. It's really OK to ask; they can always say no... but MAYBE they won't.
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« Reply #3214 on: February 10, 2012, 03:30:44 PM »
My suggestion is to ask one of your neighbors to borrow some soup & crackers, explaining you've been knocked flat by this bug... or to pick up a few things for you, while they're out shopping. It's really OK to ask; they can always say no... but MAYBE they won't.

The one neighbor I usually see is down sick herself.  Apparently, this virus is making the rounds.
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« Reply #3215 on: February 10, 2012, 03:35:24 PM »
BTW, I managed to get out, put gas in the car and picked up some chicken noodle soup.
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« Reply #3216 on: February 10, 2012, 04:11:38 PM »
That's good, Bones! You'll back to normal in a couple more days, sounds like.
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« Reply #3217 on: February 10, 2012, 04:50:46 PM »
That's good, Bones! You'll back to normal in a couple more days, sounds like.

I hope so!

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« Reply #3218 on: February 10, 2012, 05:07:03 PM »
Good food, plenty of liquid and plenty of rest... so you have the strength to
"go where no man has gone before"!   LOL... too bad they still can't just beam you into the convention.
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« Reply #3219 on: February 10, 2012, 10:26:24 PM »
Good food, plenty of liquid and plenty of rest... so you have the strength to
"go where no man has gone before"!   LOL... too bad they still can't just beam you into the convention.

Thanks!  As far as beaming to the Convention....oh I wish!  LOL!
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« Reply #3220 on: February 11, 2012, 07:08:32 AM »
What do you think of the first letter in Dear Margo?

http://www.creators.com/advice/dear-margo/what-s-up-with-that.html
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« Reply #3221 on: February 11, 2012, 07:24:14 AM »
Now THIS is getting RIDICULOUS!!!!

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/sydney-spies-third-yearbook-photo-rejected-seeks-redress-190100571--abc-news.html

I can see this photo being used in a portfolio if she is looking for a modeling or an acting job.  She has already been informed SEVERAL times, by school authorities, that it is NOT appropriate in a HIGH SCHOOL SETTING!  What part of the word "NO" does she and her parents NOT understand?!?!?!?
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« Reply #3222 on: February 11, 2012, 09:42:58 AM »
OY, Bones... I think it goes back to the fact, that kids (and even their parents) have been conditioned to believe that it's acceptable to dress kids in revealing, sexy ways because that's what is being marketed to them. The target age-group for those looks has gotten younger over time... and when your choice is between something that's only mildly racy and something that would've only been seen in Playboy once upon a time... your own values shift. Personally, that particular photo wouldn't have raised a red flag, for me. I have a daughter covered in tattoos, remember? And they're not all "pretty" flowers & such either.

Then throw in the belief that us counter-culture, feminist-types pushed into the mainstream: that how we look is NOT equal to who we are... and well, this is one of the results. Sure, it's not what was meant -- at that time in our society. We tried to teach our girls to not be ashamed of their bodies - so this is one way they're expressing themselves. In reality, this isn't without it's dangers and the girls also need to learn to be aware that not everyone is going to perceive this so innocently. But that would require active parenting - which is harder to do in a culture with so many alternative value systems. I do think the schools sometimes bring these kinds of conflicts on themselves, too - because of inflexibility, one size fits all and zero tolerance rules that are completely irrational, at times. They over-react too often.

I could argue that society's developed a lot more "hang-ups" over sex in the last 40 years precisely because of the ideas that were mainstreamed... and how those ideas have been filtered into popular media, marketing, and the total landscape-background of society. Reality TV is only the latest, most extreme example. I wouldn't want to be a 12 yr old in this kind of confusing mess!

I read a Dear Annie letter the other day from a 15 yr old, who wanted to break up her perfectly fine relationship with her boyfriend, because she wanted more "drama" in her life. She equated drama with challenge, adventure and excitement... with being engaged in life at the grown-up level. I think it's an honest reflection of just what kid-logic concludes when they assess what they're shown of "grown-up" life, you know? It's a sad comment, in my point of view, that she actually ASPIRED to this, as if it were an accomplishment to be proud of...

... it's things like this that have me reading like a madman lately and a lot more social science...
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« Reply #3223 on: February 11, 2012, 11:59:16 AM »
OY, Bones... I think it goes back to the fact, that kids (and even their parents) have been conditioned to believe that it's acceptable to dress kids in revealing, sexy ways because that's what is being marketed to them. The target age-group for those looks has gotten younger over time... and when your choice is between something that's only mildly racy and something that would've only been seen in Playboy once upon a time... your own values shift. Personally, that particular photo wouldn't have raised a red flag, for me. I have a daughter covered in tattoos, remember? And they're not all "pretty" flowers & such either.

Then throw in the belief that us counter-culture, feminist-types pushed into the mainstream: that how we look is NOT equal to who we are... and well, this is one of the results. Sure, it's not what was meant -- at that time in our society. We tried to teach our girls to not be ashamed of their bodies - so this is one way they're expressing themselves. In reality, this isn't without it's dangers and the girls also need to learn to be aware that not everyone is going to perceive this so innocently. But that would require active parenting - which is harder to do in a culture with so many alternative value systems. I do think the schools sometimes bring these kinds of conflicts on themselves, too - because of inflexibility, one size fits all and zero tolerance rules that are completely irrational, at times. They over-react too often.

I could argue that society's developed a lot more "hang-ups" over sex in the last 40 years precisely because of the ideas that were mainstreamed... and how those ideas have been filtered into popular media, marketing, and the total landscape-background of society. Reality TV is only the latest, most extreme example. I wouldn't want to be a 12 yr old in this kind of confusing mess!

I read a Dear Annie letter the other day from a 15 yr old, who wanted to break up her perfectly fine relationship with her boyfriend, because she wanted more "drama" in her life. She equated drama with challenge, adventure and excitement... with being engaged in life at the grown-up level. I think it's an honest reflection of just what kid-logic concludes when they assess what they're shown of "grown-up" life, you know? It's a sad comment, in my point of view, that she actually ASPIRED to this, as if it were an accomplishment to be proud of...

... it's things like this that have me reading like a madman lately and a lot more social science...

Hi, P.R.

I guess I'm old school.  There are ways to look sexy without looking like a trashy hoochy-mama!  If I had a daughter, I wouldn't want to have pictures like THAT floating around the Internet knowing there are creeps who will get the wrong idea and try something!  (At the risk of becoming eunuchs once I got through with them!)
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Re: Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?
« Reply #3224 on: February 12, 2012, 06:17:13 AM »
here.....
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