Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?

[sKePTiKal]

The idea of welding is still there. A place to do it is the biggest issue right now... and the fact that I've got other things that need "doing" first. I'm also getting active in my island community and trying to figure out where I "fit" or "belong"... so I've explored a community relief organization; I'm also part of a grassroots opposition (an almost invisible part) that is fighting for the rights of "everyman" against what I see as an N-organization that wants to make rules, control public property, and push their value system on everyone else... and they have the money to aggressively, legally, do it. So we're raising money; we're suing in DC; we have a petition for the Senate, a bill that would restrain these orgs already proposed in the House... and we're getting the "word out".

My voice is insignificant; I don't know the movers & shakers personally. But that's OK, I'm speaking up anyway -- and finding that I have a lot in common with the other people who live here. If I've learned anything from my healing process, it's that even if some of my ideas are goofy and silly... other people can and do relate to parts of them. So, I'm going "public" with my ideas and voice... and channelling that passion that lives in me to fight Nism when it's steamrolling good people. I might design a billboard and help fund it. There seems to be support for that idea. I used to be pretty good at condensing a simple verbal idea with an emotional image and communicating the need for others to get involved. After all, I do have some experience: I worked at the PR firm that handled the marketing for the resistance to Disney building a theme-park in Haymarket, Va.

Sorry for the hijack Bones! But, if I seem on the quiet side lately - it's just here. I'm opening my big, outraged mouth other places and insisting on being heard.

[BonesMS]

You guys are so talented! Bones in the Smithsonian and Phoenix with various fiber art skills and the desire to WELD. Whatever happened with that?

I know, right? life is so different now, women would have kids to help milk and get water from the well and harvest crops.

I love quilts, I don't do it but I'm just in awe.

Once upon a time, I had friends who raised sheep just for this purpose. Always wanted to learn how to use one of the big floor looms - I can weave with handlooms, hook rugs, quilt, etc... just no patience for crochet or knitting. Makes no sense - I can needlepoint hours at a time (nope; cross stitch is banned too; it makes my eyes cross!)

In one of our local history parks, we have the Island Farm. They raise livestock, have a weaver, blacksmith, etc the way it was done in the 1800s. Hard to believe that a lot of people have no clue how people lived pre-electricity, grocery stores, etc. It's a lot of work - but you're never bored! 

Thanks, Starlight!

There's a lot of stuff that's fun to do......crocheting, knitting, (either with knitting needles or with a loom), embroidery, latch hook, etc. etc.  When I get the catalog from Herrschner's, I just DROOL because I want to do EVERYTHING but can't afford to buy everything I want to do!

[BonesMS]

The idea of welding is still there. A place to do it is the biggest issue right now... and the fact that I've got other things that need "doing" first. I'm also getting active in my island community and trying to figure out where I "fit" or "belong"... so I've explored a community relief organization; I'm also part of a grassroots opposition (an almost invisible part) that is fighting for the rights of "everyman" against what I see as an N-organization that wants to make rules, control public property, and push their value system on everyone else... and they have the money to aggressively, legally, do it. So we're raising money; we're suing in DC; we have a petition for the Senate, a bill that would restrain these orgs already proposed in the House... and we're getting the "word out".

My voice is insignificant; I don't know the movers & shakers personally. But that's OK, I'm speaking up anyway -- and finding that I have a lot in common with the other people who live here. If I've learned anything from my healing process, it's that even if some of my ideas are goofy and silly... other people can and do relate to parts of them. So, I'm going "public" with my ideas and voice... and channelling that passion that lives in me to fight Nism when it's steamrolling good people. I might design a billboard and help fund it. There seems to be support for that idea. I used to be pretty good at condensing a simple verbal idea with an emotional image and communicating the need for others to get involved. After all, I do have some experience: I worked at the PR firm that handled the marketing for the resistance to Disney building a theme-park in Haymarket, Va.

Sorry for the hijack Bones! But, if I seem on the quiet side lately - it's just here. I'm opening my big, outraged mouth other places and insisting on being heard.

I don't blame you, P.R.!  It's TIME we were all HEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BonesMS]

Had to go talk with a bank person regarding some questions I have about my account.  One of the things he kept asking me, repeatedly, was about getting a credit card.  I kept telling him, QUOTE:  "No, I do NOT want a credit card." UNQUOTE  A few minutes later, he asked me the same question again and I gave him the same answer....."No".  He kept trying to counter my negative responses with explanations about why I SHOULD have a credit card.  (What part of the word "No" do people NOT understand?)   

Granted, this might be a required part of his job and, at the same time, after I have already said "No" once, that should be the END of that discussion!  Sheesh!!!!

[BonesMS]

This same bank employee had a hard time understanding the concept of dysfunctional families and being NC.  He kept persisting in asking why I was not making any financial arrangements that included my family until I had to specifically tell him that my "family" is DYSFUNCTIONAL and I have ZERO contact with dysfunction!  (This had me grinding my teeth!)   

[BonesMS]

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[sKePTiKal]

LOL... the bank employee is a victim of the current gov't and media message that the average person doesn't know jack about finances. It must be true, if the gov't had to set up a special agency to "protect" the average person from the big bad bank, right? At the same time, this poor person is working for a bank... and I'm sure the credit card offered had a pretty high interest rate; almost all of them do these days. 20 years ago, these rates would've been considered "usury". But using credit responsibly is considered essential these days - because the all-powerful (ha!) FICO score is developed from every kind of credit account you've every had. The possibility that someone could live successfully without plastic simply makes no sense to the kids coming out of business schools these days. But then, they can't make change either - without the cash register telling them how much (and they still have to think a minute about which coins add up to that amount).

I heard a public school administrator say last week, that the schools can no longer teach personal finance classes because of the requirements of SOL's and teaching the material on the standardized tests. I guess that's why they don't require history or civics either. Sorry you ran into a product of today's educational system, Bones. It's a mess. They're not teaching the same facts & information you & I learned. I don't know why.

I want beamed up to a sane planet!

[BonesMS]

LOL... the bank employee is a victim of the current gov't and media message that the average person doesn't know jack about finances. It must be true, if the gov't had to set up a special agency to "protect" the average person from the big bad bank, right? At the same time, this poor person is working for a bank... and I'm sure the credit card offered had a pretty high interest rate; almost all of them do these days. 20 years ago, these rates would've been considered "usury". But using credit responsibly is considered essential these days - because the all-powerful (ha!) FICO score is developed from every kind of credit account you've every had. The possibility that someone could live successfully without plastic simply makes no sense to the kids coming out of business schools these days. But then, they can't make change either - without the cash register telling them how much (and they still have to think a minute about which coins add up to that amount).

I heard a public school administrator say last week, that the schools can no longer teach personal finance classes because of the requirements of SOL's and teaching the material on the standardized tests. I guess that's why they don't require history or civics either. Sorry you ran into a product of today's educational system, Bones. It's a mess. They're not teaching the same facts & information you & I learned. I don't know why.

I want beamed up to a sane planet!

Thanks, P.R.

Yeah, this bank employee is pretty young and is a product of the insane educational system that focuses on teaching to the test and NOT preparing anyone for the REAL world!  ICK!!!

[sKePTiKal]

 

[BonesMS]

Yep!  You got that right and, what is scarier, THIS is our country's future!!!!  DOUBLE ICK!!!!!

[BonesMS]

This is a WEIRD family feud!

http://www.creators.com/advice/annies-mailbox/flogging-the-family-feud.html

It appears that the young couple will have no choice but to go NC with BOTH sides.

[BonesMS]

Yep!  You got that right and, what is scarier, THIS is our country's future!!!!  DOUBLE ICK!!!!!

And this is in light of things that can happen that is BEYOND anyone's control such as:  hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, and other natural disasters that can knock out electricity for WEEKS!  And this bank-guy could NOT understand why I preferred to rely on PAPER BACK-UPS in case I lost access to the Internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sKePTiKal]

That's smart, Bones... paper backups.

I use a combination, just because the paper takes up so much room. With a hard drive backup, you only power & a puter... and these days, it's the power that's more of a problem than the 'net, I find. We don't have those kinds of blackouts we used to have, because of mirroring of whole server farms.

[BonesMS]

That's smart, Bones... paper backups.

I use a combination, just because the paper takes up so much room. With a hard drive backup, you only power & a puter... and these days, it's the power that's more of a problem than the 'net, I find. We don't have those kinds of blackouts we used to have, because of mirroring of whole server farms.

I do a combination of hard drive back up and paper.  At the same time, I still need to receive paper billing and paper bank statements just in case.

[sKePTiKal]

Ever try to check out at Walmart or the grocery store when the computers go down? IT'S NOT POSSIBLE - not even with cash.