Is It Always N Behavior to Violate Others' Boundaries?

[sKePTiKal]

Morning Bones!

We're still up - even online, so far today. I was out yesterday and the temp dropped after noon... my sinus-based barometer started plunging or else I had a touch of a bug. Slept 10 hours, like a baby last night. I did drop the hurricane shutters around supper time - it's just a regular maintenance thing to do; keeps the individual slats lined up & lego-like stacked one on top of the other and I haven't done this since they were installed. It keeps things real quiet in the house -- and DARK.

The ocean side is getting slammed right now. NC 12 - Beach Rd - is flooded or washed out in the usual spots from Oregon Inlet/Hatteras to Kitty Hawk. The "beach" access to the 4x4 beach, north of Corolla, is all ocean - no one's getting in or out. Someone reported that the trip across the Wright Memorial Bridge is a bit challenging... winds are mostly NNE; at the house we're only clocking 35-40 mph, but I'm sure if I were to walk out the dock - with no trees to break the wind - I wouldn't be able to stand up. That's probably more intense on the Wright bridge. By some time Monday - this will start to lift and shift your direction.

We're ready for no power, of course. But so far so good. And after Irene last year, I would hope that the power company upgraded their soundside connections. What will knock us off is soundside flooding.

We're so sheltered here, that what we're noticing is simply that it's wet and constantly breezy. Unlike some ocean front or sound front properties.
The emergency team didn't even call for mandatory evacs -- but it is the off-season and most of the people down this time of year are both more self-reliant, and have more common sense.

Because it appears the storm is going to land NORTH of the DC-BALT metro area - I think you'll miss the worst of the winds. Still not a bad idea to secure all light stuff that might become airborne projectiles. And it's going to RAIN; for a few days.

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I don't think it will be quite as catastrophic as the weather folks are making out, Bones.

[BonesMS]

Morning Bones!

We're still up - even online, so far today. I was out yesterday and the temp dropped after noon... my sinus-based barometer started plunging or else I had a touch of a bug. Slept 10 hours, like a baby last night. I did drop the hurricane shutters around supper time - it's just a regular maintenance thing to do; keeps the individual slats lined up & lego-like stacked one on top of the other and I haven't done this since they were installed. It keeps things real quiet in the house -- and DARK.

The ocean side is getting slammed right now. NC 12 - Beach Rd - is flooded or washed out in the usual spots from Oregon Inlet/Hatteras to Kitty Hawk. The "beach" access to the 4x4 beach, north of Corolla, is all ocean - no one's getting in or out. Someone reported that the trip across the Wright Memorial Bridge is a bit challenging... winds are mostly NNE; at the house we're only clocking 35-40 mph, but I'm sure if I were to walk out the dock - with no trees to break the wind - I wouldn't be able to stand up. That's probably more intense on the Wright bridge. By some time Monday - this will start to lift and shift your direction.

We're ready for no power, of course. But so far so good. And after Irene last year, I would hope that the power company upgraded their soundside connections. What will knock us off is soundside flooding.

We're so sheltered here, that what we're noticing is simply that it's wet and constantly breezy. Unlike some ocean front or sound front properties.
The emergency team didn't even call for mandatory evacs -- but it is the off-season and most of the people down this time of year are both more self-reliant, and have more common sense.

Because it appears the storm is going to land NORTH of the DC-BALT metro area - I think you'll miss the worst of the winds. Still not a bad idea to secure all light stuff that might become airborne projectiles. And it's going to RAIN; for a few days.

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. I don't think it will be quite as catastrophic as the weather folks are making out, Bones.

I'm looking at what is heading in from the west that is going to merge with Hurricane Sandy plus I'm looking at the wind-bands emanating from the eye of this storm and it looks massive.  I've learned a long time ago to never underestimate storms.

[Hopalong]

I'm feeling pretty cautious too Bones, especially after the week without power last summer. Stocked up on batteries, water and canned food. House will be warm enough since it's not winter, thank god, but I have a very big tree out front that is not healthy. I saw SO many huge trees come down in high winds (and even without wind, from soaked ground) onto houses during the last few years that I'm truly not assuming anything. If the meteorologists say "huge" I'm think I will believe them.

I hope there's no injury or loss of life, but I don't know how that could be avoided.

Stay safe, everyone.

Hops

[BonesMS]

I'm feeling pretty cautious too Bones, especially after the week without power last summer. Stocked up on batteries, water and canned food. House will be warm enough since it's not winter, thank god, but I have a very big tree out front that is not healthy. I saw SO many huge trees come down in high winds (and even without wind, from soaked ground) onto houses during the last few years that I'm truly not assuming anything. If the meteorologists say "huge" I'm think I will believe them.

I hope there's no injury or loss of life, but I don't know how that could be avoided.

Stay safe, everyone.

Hops

Thanks, Hops.

I'm hoping people in my area learned from their experience with the Derecho.  Compared to what I see on the radar, the Derecho was a TINY drop in the bucket!!!!!

[sKePTiKal]

Hops - you may actually have more issues from snow and wind, where you are. You're far enough away from the center, that it will minimize the effect. Still - take no chances, and cocoon as much as possible! Have you seen the blizzard warnings? OY! Hurricanes inside tropical storms, blizzards and 20-25 waves on Lake Michigan, and an earthquake of B.C., Canada this morning. (When it rains it pours... makes a person wonder about those pesky Mayans.)

Bones - from the latest update - the storm won't make landfall for 48-36 hours. Conditions will deteriorate, then just continue until you're ready for it to arrive already! The eye is predicted to come ashore between DE and NJ - just north of Baltimore. Perhaps by that time, the southwest/southern quadrant of the storm will be weaker. Our winds started to occasionally shift to the N-NW off & on after 2 pm. We've got at least 24 more hours of this here - gale force winds maybe through Tuesday, according to the last update I heard. For us, it's NOT THAT BAD. South - Hatteras and Ocracoke are getting pounded - and the flooding is already started. Today it's the ocean, very late tonight - tomorrow, it'll be the sound side that takes on up to 7 ft of water. Hatteras' power is out; ours has only blinked once.

We'll see what happens overnight; Sandy is still actually about due east of Hatteras - 100 mi south of where I am. It's when it starts to move, that I'm afraid that things will go downhill in a hurry... even though it will be pulling north away from us at the same time.

Dr G - Boston will get some of this, too. Batten the hatches!

[BonesMS]

Hops - you may actually have more issues from snow and wind, where you are. You're far enough away from the center, that it will minimize the effect. Still - take no chances, and cocoon as much as possible! Have you seen the blizzard warnings? OY! Hurricanes inside tropical storms, blizzards and 20-25 waves on Lake Michigan, and an earthquake of B.C., Canada this morning. (When it rains it pours... makes a person wonder about those pesky Mayans.)

Bones - from the latest update - the storm won't make landfall for 48-36 hours. Conditions will deteriorate, then just continue until you're ready for it to arrive already! The eye is predicted to come ashore between DE and NJ - just north of Baltimore. Perhaps by that time, the southwest/southern quadrant of the storm will be weaker. Our winds started to occasionally shift to the N-NW off & on after 2 pm. We've got at least 24 more hours of this here - gale force winds maybe through Tuesday, according to the last update I heard. For us, it's NOT THAT BAD. South - Hatteras and Ocracoke are getting pounded - and the flooding is already started. Today it's the ocean, very late tonight - tomorrow, it'll be the sound side that takes on up to 7 ft of water. Hatteras' power is out; ours has only blinked once.

We'll see what happens overnight; Sandy is still actually about due east of Hatteras - 100 mi south of where I am. It's when it starts to move, that I'm afraid that things will go downhill in a hurry... even though it will be pulling north away from us at the same time.

Dr G - Boston will get some of this, too. Batten the hatches!

There's also a storm coming in from the west that is going to merge with this:

http://www.boston.com/news/weather/2012/10/28/frankenstorm-worse-than-sum-its-parts/4xdfJMhMYddNKt0sHMYtrN/story.html


http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2012/10/28/get-prepped-hurricane-sandy-edition/

My CERT group is in stand-by mode.  We are taking NO chances!

[sKePTiKal]

Bones, you know - I think the worst of the worst for you, is that people have absolutely little awareness of what-all requires electricity to run - ATMs, gas pumps, etc. The stores don't have much of a backup plan to check people out, if their computerized cash registers don't work - so they can't even take cash. And living in the city, is usually living in less space -- so people aren't prepared to live in their homes - sans power. So far, there haven't been any widespread outages here. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

City water pressure can drop, where there's flooding, too... or you may get a "boil water" order due to contamination. Filling a bath tub gives you some extra for washing up and flushing.

Hubs just hollared that the DC Gov't is shutting down. Hopefully that means they're activating their emergency team now, who will take over.

Hang on, Hops - wind's picking up down here tonight!

[BonesMS]

Bones, you know - I think the worst of the worst for you, is that people have absolutely little awareness of what-all requires electricity to run - ATMs, gas pumps, etc. The stores don't have much of a backup plan to check people out, if their computerized cash registers don't work - so they can't even take cash. And living in the city, is usually living in less space -- so people aren't prepared to live in their homes - sans power. So far, there haven't been any widespread outages here. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

City water pressure can drop, where there's flooding, too... or you may get a "boil water" order due to contamination. Filling a bath tub gives you some extra for washing up and flushing.

Hubs just hollared that the DC Gov't is shutting down. Hopefully that means they're activating their emergency team now, who will take over.

Hang on, Hops - wind's picking up down here tonight!

The rain has started in my area.

I'm checking my e-mail to see if I have received additional information before I lose that connection.

[BonesMS]

Got the radio tuned to NOAA.

[Hopalong]

Hi TT, I had a private tree company cut back the tree just a few weeks ago because I was concerned about its condition. He's the one who alerted me to how unhealthy it is, but we're trying to give it a chance to regrow. It's a silver maple (which urban planners do not recommend, as they have shallowish root systems) -- and its twin, which is healthier, is the one right out the window. Nothing to do but keep the fingers crossed at this point.

I have quite a few friends who just "know" their predictions are more precise than, say, NOAA's. I just marvel at how many scientists are sitting on the average couch!

Hops

[BonesMS]

Hi TT, I had a private tree company cut back the tree just a few weeks ago because I was concerned about its condition. He's the one who alerted me to how unhealthy it is, but we're trying to give it a chance to regrow. It's a silver maple (which urban planners do not recommend, as they have shallowish root systems) -- and its twin, which is healthier, is the one right out the window. Nothing to do but keep the fingers crossed at this point.

I have quite a few friends who just "know" their predictions are more precise than, say, NOAA's. I just marvel at how many scientists are sitting on the average couch!

Hops

Don't you just "love" these "couch predictors" who think they are more "precise" than NOAA?     Do they have access to the planes that fly into hurricanes and the specialized computers that provide storm modeling based on the data received from these planes, radar, and other scientific sources?  Reminds me of an old saying:  "People who think they know it all are annoying to people who do."

I don't know how long I'll be able to stay online.  In the meantime, here is today's "Dear Abby":

http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/?uc_full_date=20121029

This raises a LOT of RED FLAGS for me!!!!

[BonesMS]

Today's "Annie's Mailbox":

http://www.creators.com/advice/annies-mailbox/for-better-or-for-sedentary.html

[sKePTiKal]

I agree with tt's caution, that this storm is lasting DAAAYS. We got rain/wind on Friday - despite no prediction for it to start then. Saturday dawned gray & windy - but dry, till lunchtime. The rain seriously started that afternoon... continued all day yesterday, still NNE. It's not supposed to clear here until Tuesday. But the wind has shifted around NNW, supposed to become more westerly all day - and it's definitely not as intense. The rain is still here, too...

LOL... yeah, there are a bunch of us that get all geeky when it comes to storms. I think it's a way to help minimize anxiety, for me. The HAM stuff is still sitting, at the moment - I don't exactly know what equipment is needed yet and can't really use it, until I pass the test & get my license.

[BonesMS]

I agree with tt's caution, that this storm is lasting DAAAYS. We got rain/wind on Friday - despite no prediction for it to start then. Saturday dawned gray & windy - but dry, till lunchtime. The rain seriously started that afternoon... continued all day yesterday, still NNE. It's not supposed to clear here until Tuesday. But the wind has shifted around NNW, supposed to become more westerly all day - and it's definitely not as intense. The rain is still here, too...

LOL... yeah, there are a bunch of us that get all geeky when it comes to storms. I think it's a way to help minimize anxiety, for me. The HAM stuff is still sitting, at the moment - I don't exactly know what equipment is needed yet and can't really use it, until I pass the test & get my license.

P.R.,

Do you have contact with your local CERT team in your area? 

[sKePTiKal]

There is no CERT team here - I did check, after seeing a chapter in Va. Beach. That's like 2 hours from here - and often times we don't get the same weather, odd as that sounds.

This morning, there has been no let up on the Beach side. In fact - even tho the storm is north of us and starting to turn now - the water is STILL rising here. Kitty Hawk, oceanside is pretty bad off -- and water's all the way to the bypass. Beach Rd is closed from the Hilton in KH, all the way to the KDH town line. Duck Rd may close, right there at KH & Southern Shores, because of another dune breach, too. Curfew is imposed for Kill Devil Hills. We're expecting sound side flooding from the intensifying west wind, tonight too.

What I've read, is that as the storm makes landfall and connects with that front coming from the west, the wind is going to intensify on the south/southwest side. What I'm hoping - is that tomorrow we can get out. But it may not be till Wed.