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sunblue

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Re: Great thread to read ``My mom is a Narcissist''
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 02:01:07 PM »
Certain Hope:

That was an incredibly powerful dream you had!  I think the whole idea of saying "I Love You" in an N family is interesting.  For some of us , we will never, ever hear those words.  For others, we might hear the words, but they contain no meaning because the actions of the Ns demonstrate the complete opposite of "love".  For me, I think it would (almost) be better to not hear the words and have that be the honest truth than have Nparents who say the words (in a non-emotional, non-sincere way, of course) and back up those words with abusive behavior.

Somtimes I think I should verbally tell my parents how much I love them because I know they will not always be here and because I think that's what a good daughter would do.  But then I can't help but think how one-sided it is.  They would never reciprocate and never have.  My Nmom wouldn't appreciate it.  She would just think, "Well, of course you do.  I'm the Queen Mother.  Everyone adores me because I'm special and superior."  My co-dependent dad would probably appreciate it since he has gotten nothing from my Nmom in the way of appreciation or affection all these years.  But I know too he has never reciprocated to me.  I know that is selfish.  But he has never picked out a birthday card or written me a letter or told me he is proud of me or anything. 

So why do I always think in terms of making sure they know I love them? 

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Re: Great thread to read ``My mom is a Narcissist''
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2007, 12:33:00 AM »
I was reading some of the other posts on the thread related to Nina Brown's book about improving relationships with N partners.  I didn't read that one but I did read her book about Children of the Self-Absorbed and though it was definitely one of the most helpful books on the subject for me.

Some of the posters were talking about their anger with their Nmom and dealing with that anger.  It is sometimes hard to get to that place of acknowledging and expressing that anger, but I sure can understand it.

One of things that I find most sad regarding my own Nmom is that I can no longer look at her and think of her in a positive light.  Many adult daughters (or sons) can acknowledge the wonderful things about their mom----she's great, she's warm and loving, she is generous and considerate.  But after acknowledging the reality of having an Nmom, the truth is she's none of those things.  But she is a whole lot of lousy things.  It's hard to acknowledge to myself that if she weren't my mother, she's probably not the kind of person I would want to be or even to be with.  I never, ever, ever thought that would be true of my mother.

My mother has hurt me soooo much, which I'm only now realizing.  She caused me so much damage and heartache.  She doesn't know how to love anyone.  She doesn't care about anyone but herself and her N daughter (my sibling).  And just once, just one time in her life, I would like to see her struggle.  She has always been very lucky.  Married to my extremely co-dependent dad and having an Ndaugher who emulates her, she has never wanted for narcissistic supply.  She is the self-prescribed Queen and has always gotten what she's wanted.  Meanwhile, I have struggled all my life, have had nothing but bad luck and am alone for all intents and purposes.  I have no one to supply me with anything emotionally.  So, while I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to her, I do sometimes wish she would struggle or come upon some bad luck in the hopes that she could experience what I always have.  But I know that won't happen.  Ns are lucky.  Things go their way.

Oh well.  I'm just venting.  It's all so very heartbreaking.  My Nmom was so neglectful of me emotionally.  In many ways, she broke me.

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Re: Great thread to read ``My mom is a Narcissist''
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 08:53:42 AM »
I believe you, Sun...

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I have struggled all my life, have had nothing but bad luck and am alone for all intents and purposes.  I have no one to supply me with anything emotionally.


And when you are ready, you have a choice about this.

I have a litany of things, same old, but when you are ready to NOT be alone, when you are ready to bring love into your life by associating with loving people (and being certain you are one, too)...you can place yourself in their company regularly. It's that simple. You place yourself in the company of loving/healing people regularly. It changes your life.

A support group
A church covenant or other group
A volunteer group
A cause group
A therapy group

Become one of them. Stay with it, weekly. For a year. See how you feel.

Do you feel you might be getting to a point where you could do that? Shame to let your Nmother and Nsister continue to scald you every day, every time you have the simple human yearning to be part of loving community.

love to you,
Hops
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Re: Great thread to read ``My mom is a Narcissist''
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2007, 09:08:17 AM »
Dear Hops,

You make good sense, yanno?  :D   (((((((((Hops)))))))))

Dear Sun,


Your mother sounds an awful lot like mine.... (((((((((Sun)))))))) I am so sorry. She only seems to be concerned with how things appear to be... the self-proscribed Queen, yes. And I know what it's like to feel so broken, but just now, finally, I'm learning to give myself the sort of care which she was incapable of offering. You can do this for yourself too, Sun... I am sure you can. It's very, very difficult to take the first steps in that direction, but once you do it's like a snowball rolling downhill... and hey, just picture N down at the bottom of that hill, being bowled over by the new you  :D

Today I start my new part-time job. Wouldn't-ya-just-know-it? Got a voice mail from my mother yesterday. No way I was gonna return that call and have anything she said (or didn't say) be on my mind for the rest of the day/night/week. Not exposing myself to thoughts of her anymore is the very best way I can be a good, positive influence on my self! For the first time I was able to say aloud - I do not want to share anything with her - not positive or negative - about my own personal life. There's no sadness about it now -- that she doesn't know how much I've struggled with stuff lately or how many solid steps I've taken into good health and wellbeing...
There's just no sense of gap or loss that I can feel at this point...
It's as though she's a non-factor because now I know that she cannot take anything from me anymore. I can pray for her and wish her well but not ever again allow her into my inner heart... and that is freedom.

Much love to you,
Carolyn