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Ami

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2007, 08:27:51 PM »
Dear Poppy,
  I would consider myself as having a "bad' marriage. Once I had kids and realized  that my parents would be no help,I decided to stay. Did I do the right thing? I really don't know.
 I got sick from stress. However,I did not stand up the way that I should have.I just felt so defeated ,especially when my own parents would not help me.
  One thing I learned, though,is that no  one can MAKE you do things or go places. Unless they handcuff you( which is illegal ), you ARE a free person ,even though it does not feel that way b/c we do not value ourselves enough.
  All in all, my marriage was a horrible proposition. Now, my in laws are out of the picture. My kids are older and I finally stood up-- so it is O.K.
  I like what Andrew Wommack, a Bible teacher says."In heaven there is no marrying...."
 Amen to that, friend.                           Love   Ami

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2007, 08:30:14 PM »
Dear Poppyseed,

Hugs to you! I really hope this is a step in the right direction for your marriage too. You could really use a break, dear Poppyseed!

X Bella




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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2007, 10:46:35 AM »
Oh, Poppy,

   Nothing for everyone to forgive.  I like your last two sentences. 

   What prompted you to leave the first time?  If you'd rather not discuss any specifics, that's ok, or if you'd just rather not dwell on it period, it's ok , too.  I often think of the feelings I had when I was on my own after I got through the worst of my greiving after my H died.  I, too, want those wonderful feelings back, and I often get off track with finding ways to experience them again, because I let the tide of life direct me too easily.

    What is it that you want to win, Poppy?  If you don't put it all out there here, can you answer it to yourself? Without worrying about being selfish, or wanting the right things, or what's best for everyone else?  I found that getting in touch with any outrageous "I WANT" did not mean I would automatically demand it or act on it.

    There were some books I was thinking about getting, but only got as far as checking them out on Amazon after trolling the net 
about ambivalence , divorce, etc.  Looking at even excerpts helped.

    I hope you'll find and allow little spaces in your life where you can just live, and be, with a little breather from this all-consuming stuff.  I'll bet there are times with the kids that provide some "being in the moment" periods.  I hope some of them are fun.

Hugs-

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2007, 11:11:56 AM »
Poppy:

What do you think was different about you when you left your husband?

It sounds like you're living under obligations that you yourself put in place, doesn't it?

What would happen if you stopped focusing so much on your husband and his family....?

What if you focused on talking to other people and making new connections?

Where did the freedom go?

What does being around your H change about you?

What agreement do feel's in place?





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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2007, 05:32:39 PM »
Hello CP, Lighter, Bean, and Bella,

This is an interesting two months.  I knew I was in so much pain.  My insides were telling me the situation was crazy.  My situation was telling me that I was crazy. 
I have to remind myself that it has only been two or three months since I even learned what N was.  So, to expect that my H can jump to light speed is just rediculous.

I think that the answer is within me.  The more responsibility I am willing to take about my situation the better.  I am realizing how my thinking keeps me in vicitm mode. 


Lighter,

When I am with my H, my boundaries go away.  I so wish I had understood what N was earlier.....I could have protected myself a little better.  Anyway, I think what was different, was that I felt so free.  It was the first time I acted for myself.  I set boundaries and I felt so good about it.  The codep and enmeshment went away.  When he came back, I felt all that ability to see and orient and breath went back to fog.  I talk a lot about the "whys" with my T and that helps that she understands.  Yes, I think that I do put those obligations in place.  I am not sure I see it clearly yet,  But I try to challenge what I am aware of.  I am now trying to build my own life apart from my H.   It is a very intimidating experience.  But even in the saying of that I don't recognize myself.  I used to be such a go getter.  I have been praying that God would help me bring back those parts of me that seem to have faded away.

I can see that I need to take more responsibility for my life and my happiness.  And I am feeling more hope in the possibilities.  You give me strength, Lighter.  Not to be gushy, but I put your strong voice in my back pocket when I go out and am not feeling too confident.  I pretend that I have that confidence too!!  Acting 'as if' really helps.  I am trying to meet people.  It is really hard to connect with people.  I don't know what it is.  But I am tryin' babe, I'm trying.  I will get some traction here soon!!! :::wishin' and a hopin':::

My mil and fil just left the house.  We were putting in our sod yesterday and today and they showed up to help.  My H didn't really want them to come but his father was so hurt --- so he said yes.  After they were gone, my H laid down on the bed and said, "Oh my Gosh!  My mom is such an N!"  He doesn't want to see them again for a long while.   I am breathing relief.


Bean,  I wish I could sit down with your sil.  How does she handle stuff?  She probably doesn't cave like I do.  Correction....did!  I am really trying to let go of so many little, subtle destructive beliefs I have picked up along the way.  I am putting my trust in God to help me with all of it. 

Who was it that posted that list of dysfunctional family traits?  I passed it along to my H and he was amazed.  Almost every one fit his family.  Really good for him to see.

Love much,

Poppyseed

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2007, 06:36:47 PM »
Ewww.
Bean yo moma is a nasty piece.
Congratulations to you for the sense and the spine to leave her.
Bravo.

Poppy...you hang in. I'm so glad your H is open to learning the Nmysteries.
Maybe you two will move away together?

love
Hops
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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2007, 10:14:56 PM »
Poppy, you're such a good person!  You give away your own power because you are so generous and loving.  IMO you are being far more considerate of other people than they deserve, but you don't think that way, and so it goes on.  When you said how good it felt when you left your H, it was because you finally exercised your own desires and that gave you a sense of control over your destiny that you have always given away.  An N parent gave you the idea that you had to sacrifice everything to their needs for their love and that was complete, self-serving bs.! You need to reclaim your power like you did when you left your H. (I'm not saying that's what you need to do, because I don't have a clue).  What you need to do is put the word ME into your life.  That's just my opinion (but I know I'm right!).

Bill

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2007, 04:49:01 PM »
Bill,

Hmmmm.....I think you are right!!!!   It is time.  It is really really time!!!


Thanks all!  You have given me lots to think about.  I think writing about the letter has helped me to identify the pattern.  It is helping me to refuse to take on all the responsibility that she is dishing onto me.  Boing!!! Lots of little bands breaking....I am on the way to freedom.

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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2007, 06:11:20 PM »
Dear Poppy,
  You said that ,"Lots of little bands are popping."Maybe , that is how healing works. You get little triumphs--little by little. I hope so b/c I am healing little by little.I WISH that I could just get strong and have my own power-immediately. However,it is little by little .                love  Ami

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Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Letter from Nmil
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2007, 07:23:37 AM »
((((Poppy))))

I don't know how you do it. 

I think your H does have expectations and he doesn't expect to be challenged or give up certain parts of you he's had access to, without thinking twice about it.

To change those dynamics is sooooo hard.  It invites more struggle and you don't know what that struggle will bring. 

It's a battle, (and we abhor battles) even if we try to do it with gentle kindness..... we're the only ones being gentle and kind, is my experience.


All I can say is...... I understand, profoundly.  I do.