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Setting the record straight about Ami
« on: December 11, 2007, 02:20:26 PM »
Yesterday, Ami posted on several threads that she had 'had a rejection' from a 'friend'.

I would like to set the record straight, as I am the 'friend' referred to, that is not how it seemed to me.

We had been sending PMs to each other for a while, but some of the PMs from Ami concerned an online 'affair' that she is having, and I was very unconfortable with being the secret-keeper concerning that relationship. Anyone who has read my story on the other part of the forum will know that a large part of the problem that I had with my N mother was that, when I was a child, my NMum had affairs that she confided to me, and she expected me to help her hide those from my Dad. Being a child, I had no choice but to go along with that, which caused me a lot of pain, and led to the relationship with my dad being distant for years.

When Ami first confided in me about her 'affair', I said to her that I felt 'triggered' by what she was telling me, and very uncomfortable with it. Being 'triggered' is forum-speak for 'very strong, and real, painful emotions towards something which I am experiencing now, which reminds me of an event from the past'. But she needed to keep confiding, so she took no notice.

On Monday, as the things she was telling me were escalating, I decided to set a boundary, and told her that I no longer wanted to hear any details at all of the relattionship she is having. She agreed to respect my boundary....and then in the very next sentence, stomped all over it, by saying 'I respect what you are saying about ****. I just want to ask you WHY you think it is doomed--just your opinion' (and other questions, which I don't want to list here).

I had to repeat to her that the boundary had ALREADY gone up, and I wasn't going to discuss it any more.

I then suggested that I thought it might be better if we only 'conversed' on the forum (not by PM) for a while. She replied by saying: "THAT is not friends and is not acceptable to me.. ... My answer is that I do not care to be friends."

So, who rejected who?

It's debatable, but I think the way Ami is describing it is a little economical with the truth. I had the right to establish a boundary, which Ami didn't want to adhere to. That's her choice. But she needs to realise that there are consequences to her decision. That isn't 'being rejected' by someone else, though, because saying you've simply 'been rejected' suggests that you were entirely innocent, which isn't the case here.


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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 02:41:17 PM »
Janet,

I think this post is wrong and it will cause more pain than necessary to Ami. We are all wounded here and I understand YOUR pain. But please don't try to control the situation by using the opinions of others.

In the past Ami and I have set limits and she has never violated me in any way. Friends hurt each other sometimes -- I hope that you can forgive her and she will forgive you.

If I had to guess, this post will trigger Ami. So is it right to seek revenge?

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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 02:44:20 PM »
Janet
  I am sorry that you are so cruel inside yourself  to hurt s/one this way. I am very sorry for you, Janet.
 
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 02:45:21 PM »
Gabben,

I expected you to be the first to post a reply, actually.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. I disagree with you on that, but that's OK.

I am not trying to control the situation - I am explaining the situation. Ami has that right, and so do I.

I am glad Ami has never violated you in any way, yet.

I am not seeking revenge, any more tham Ami was, I presume.


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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2007, 02:48:22 PM »
Janet,

It also seems to me that Ami's privacy is being disrespected here. If the only thing she posted was: 'had a rejection' from a 'friend'. Then she was not disclosing anything about you, correct? She was just trying to work through her feelings. This post is a violation to her and it will cause others to feel unsafe here if they feel that someone can just write of post about them at any given time that takes away from their dignity. Please show me or point me in the right direction of where Ami disclosed your name to the forum?

Please consider removing this.

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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2007, 02:49:37 PM »
Janet-- the "generic" term "'friend" never called any  attention to you as you are doing to me ,now. Janet--I am truly sorry for you . I hope that you can heal and it does not have to come out like this again with someone else. .
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 02:54:11 PM »
Gabben,

Please try to understand that Ami has the right to write what she likes, and if she chooses not to name me, then that's her choice. But she cannot dictate to me that I must behave in the same way...that would be N-ish, wouldn't it?

*I* am trying to work through my feelings, too. This forum is for all of us, not just Ami.

No-one need feel unsafe here, and I am certainly not taking away Ami's dignity. I am reporting what happened. If that makes her feel undignified, that is her choice.


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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 02:57:31 PM »
Why don't you erase the names(mine) and post as a generic friend as I did?Wouldn't that be the respectful thing to do, Janet--for you and me.
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 03:00:35 PM »
Janet
  I am asking you to remove my name and then simply "Go at it at me"( as a generic friend) as much as you want or need to.
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 03:07:24 PM »
If you guys want to pig pile  on me--have at it. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 03:14:01 PM »
Leah,

Thank you for your clear posts.

It's the secrecy that really got to me (or rather, the assumption that I'd put up with it), about things which I would never, and have never, done myself.


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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 03:24:34 PM »

But Jesus did not say to ride roughshod over people.

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Leah,

Reality check, seriously.

Once again - Christ also said that those without sin cast the first stone.

I'm wondering something Leah - Have you ever sinned?

This is me expressing my frustration, not abuse. -- Now - please answer another question, is not your behaviour on this post a form of relational agression?

I'm speaking up. It was almost as if you could not wait to jump and attack Ami.

Will you please explain?

Lise

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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2007, 03:27:30 PM »
Janet
 You said that you wanted to end the friendship yesterday ,which I did. You really should remove this thread,Janet.
  A"generic" friend  could be ANYONE on the board or in 3 D. There was never any reference to you.
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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2007, 03:31:09 PM »
PM by Ami, 10th December:

REPEAT: "THAT is not friends and is not acceptable to me..   My answer is that I do not care to be friends."


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Re: Setting the record straight about Ami
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2007, 03:32:13 PM »
Leah
  If Jesus forgave the woman who was caught  in adultery......................
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung