Setting the record straight about Ami

[Ami]

Leah
 The situation is simple. Janet told me NOT to PM her .I stopped. Is that so hard to comprehend?  To me ,that was rejection ,for as close as we had been for a year --or more.
 . The friendship was over , as I saw it.
  That is it Janet.I left graciously and this should be over too . If I felt rejected and wrote about it--- why is that your issue when I did not mention your name?

[JanetLG]

Gabben,

"Are you really going to deny that posting this is NOT a violation of Ami's limits?"


Yes


Janet

[JanetLG]

 
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With respect,

After going through all these postings again .....

The thing that really stands out clearly is that Janet asked you to stop posting about the secrets and lies as they were abusive

Ami, you never * saw * that

and you never apologised to Janet



And, Janet did not cut-off her friendship from you


Instead, Ami, it was you who cut your friendship off from Janet

with such finality.


That really strikes a chord here.
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That's it, Leah. In a nutshell.

All else is smoke and mirrors.


Janet

[Ami]

Janet
   As close as we were,it was a rejection to me. I stopped PM ing you and moved on . I did not slander you or try to hurt you, as you have done with me.

[Gabben]

leah
 Janet and I had a friendship UNTIL she TOLD me NOT to PM her. Then ,I din't PM her anymore. You ,Leah, are  twisting the entire situation in a way that is totally false. Leah-- don't be a" bearer of tales"
  .

With respect,

There are no false tales as Janet has posted the PM's here in this thread for all to see after she was accused of being untrue.

Janet could have posted all the PM's but she did not.

What do you want know Ami?   To push Janet into posting all the PM's onto the board?


Again, with respect,

You choose to betray the friendship and support that I had always given you here on this board.

My voice is out in the open here on the board, my wise choice and preference.

Never, have I engaged in any PM circle or such.  

You were asking me if people had been PM'ing about you around the time of "My Aunt" thread, with Bill and Lise posting in your support.

What I explained was that "No"  no-one had posted a PM to me of that nature and I very much doubted that they would either (not in the PM club)

And you never posted a PM again.

Instead you blatantly and cruelly betrayed and lied about me in Lise's thread -- with Lise supporting you all the way.


My wise choice was to not engage with either you, Ami, or Lise.


Again, I will not be a Bystander or a Silent Witness here on this board

just as 'Dismayed' has reinforced in the insightful postings to which 2 people responded.

Leah

There are too many Freudian slips here to count....oh Leah.

From someone who preaches forgiveness and perfumes her posts with words like genuine and sincerely  --  I can smell the reek of anger and hatred coming from this above.

Is your statement of:

I will not be a Bystander or a Silent Witness here on this board

Just a disguise? -- because it seems to me that the behavior you are displaying is covertly aggressive not supportive, If people were to really "look"  they would see that also.

Lise

[JanetLG]

No, Gabben, it's supportive.


Janet

[Ami]

Janet
 I FELT the friendship was over. THAT was my ONLY crime. To me--it WAS over. You maybe did not see it that way.I did.
  I felt rejected and dealt with it by writing about a "friend". WHO would have tied it to you?
  I really don't understand  HOW you could humiliate me like this  Janet.

[Leah]

No Gabben

If there had have been an ounce of any anger and hatred then it would have come out much much long ago.

Anyone who knows me will testify that they get annoyed with me simply because I don't get angry at all.

What purpose does it serve?

Only the purpose of:      My NMother  and    My NFather  


Why ever would I want to behave like them?


No thanks.

[Ami]

Janet
  My biggest fear( as is most of ours) is  fear of humiliation.In Psychology,there is a technique called Flooding where you get"doused" with your worst fear.
  You did that to me ,today.  Humiliation didn't kill me. Shame didn't kill me. I guess maybe I won't fear them as much after today .
 I did nothing wrong to  you ,Janet. My conscience is clear. I am sorry you are so full of rage and pain

[Gabben]

No Gabben

If there had have been an ounce of any anger and hatred then it would have come out much much long ago.

Anyone who knows me will testify that they get annoyed with me simply because I don't get angry at all.

What purpose does it serve?

Only the purpose of:      My NMother  and    My NFather  

Why ever would I want to behave like them?


No thanks.

You mean  Leah that after all of that physical violence that you had to suffer through...and it was a lot, more than most, you have never felt anger towards your parents?

I do not want to hurt you Leah, but can you honestly, to this message board say that you never felt anger towards your parents for their injustice to you?  Please, put all of us to shame.

BTW -- What you describe above is someone who suffers from passive agressive behavior.


Lise

[Ami]

Amber
  I stopped talking  about it when she told me. You have the facts wrong.That is not. It is that I said that SHE rejected me when she didn't see it THAT way.She thought that I rejected her. 
 It is over for me. Have at me--anyone--if you want to.

[Leah]

Once again Lise,

Please do not take me back to where I was way back then.

Now

Is where I stand - in the here and now

After years worth of work, now, restored and healed.

Remember, I have already posted all about this on your thread.

And received positive responses.

Your shoes won't fit me so please stop trying to make me wear them.

as you work and through your own restoration and healing.

[Gabben]

Leah -

If, and when, the day comes that the past pain comes up to squeeze out your present. Keep in mind...I've been there. God did not heal me in one breath and I did not pre-maturely forgive my parents...I want to forgive them, more than anything in the world. But the heart moves slower than the mind and anyone who pretends that they have it all together is closer to losing it.

If you ever hurt and feel pain, just know I have been there too.

Bless you Leah, I mean that.
Lise

[lighter]

Janet
 It is OVER. I didn't PM you after you made your feelings clear. That was it..It was over ,yesterday
  I purposely mentioned a generic "friend" in my posts. WHO in God's name would tie it to you?

::THROWING HUGE RED FLAG ON THE FIELD::

If you didn't want it laundered on the board you would have kept your trap shut about it and not invited a response by stating your case( knowing perfectly well Janet would tie herself to your posts.)

I'm just sorry Gabben's stuck in the middle of your silliness once again. 

[Ami]

Go for it!