Dr. Grossman

[Ami]

Dr Grossman,
  I am answering vicious bullying,as I see it. There is still the SAME bullying going on in THIS  thread(IMO). There IS sniping and undermining of ME. When I defend myself, the people seem to think THAT is slander. I AM able to defend myself. That is not my issue. I simply think that I should be able to answer the snipes BACK,in a respectful way,as I have.(IMO) If you don't think that I was respectful, I will adhere to that---- graciously  . If not,I will continue to defend myself as I see fit, trying to do so with dignity and integrity .               Ami

[Overcomer]

What I meant was if you would not have the balls to say something to someone's face, then I would not say it on the board.  I also do not think it is healthy to gather allies in PM Land and then gang up on others.  I do not think strong opinions=bad,  I think abusive language and sarcasm is bad.  I believe we can make a point without insinuating stupidity.  We all have the right to state what we see and hear and argue if we do not agree-but we do NOT have the right to be a@@holes.

[Certain Hope]

  I am answering vicious bullying,as I see it. There is still the SAME bullying going on in THIS  thread(IMO). There IS sniping and undermining of ME. When I defend myself, the people seem to think THAT is slander.   Ami

I have not viciously bullied you, Ami.

I have not sniped at you or undermined you.

You, Ami, have slandered me.

That is why I reported your post.

I am not sure whether or not you are even capable of admitting the truth to yourself, but what you are experiencing is an acting out of the law of cause and effect.
You objectify me - I object.
Simple as that.
In other words, you are reaping that to which you've sown.

Carolyn

[Ami]

We HAVE to disagree ,Certain Hope. IF you HADN"T  bullied me --WHY did Dr.G   PULL  " Fuzzy Wuzzy "which  YOU thought was  "wonderful fun"?                                          Ami


YOU thought Fuzzy Wuzzy should have all her hair shaved,as I remember. WHAT do you call THAT, Certain Hope?

[changing]

I have never reported anyone to "Richard" (I don't know him) or to Dr. Grossman(no connection there, either). I think that we can handle things for ourselves here, except on the extremely rare occassion when it rises to the level of pathology- racism, actual threats, violent messianic complexes etc. "You alcoholic..."- These people need the services of professionals.

What I object to is the appearance of an elitist hierarchy,based on connections or a lynch mob situation. In such situations, a person like me cannot even refer to this dynamic without being threatened with retribution of some sort or another. It's just too bad and too sad- why not just enjoy the position you have and let others do as they will? If things were handled more delicately,no one would even know or care.

If some people are in a special position, I think that we deserve to know this- ie, "That's the boss' wife (or sisters, etc). Please keep her (them) happy." I certainly feel used and violated if that is indeed the case and I was not informed.

If there are no "special relationships", then justice should prevail. We can and should handle things in a decent and fair way.

[Certain Hope]

We HAVE to disagree ,Certain Hope. IF you HADN"T  bullied me --WHY did Dr.G   PULL  " Fuzzy Wuzzy "which  YOU thought was  "wonderful fun"?                                          Ami

Ami,

You seem to be making things up as you go along here... why? Is it that threatening to you to consider that your interpretation just might possibly be wrong?

Now you refer to a thread which I believe has since been deleted - and in the process, you re-write history by putting....

let's see, what are you putting?

Words into my mouth?

No... more than that, you are actually putting thoughts into my mind!

You can't do that, Ami... you can't because I won't let you. My boundaries are firmly in place. Maybe that's why you hate me?

The fact is = I said nothing on that thread about having "wonderful fun" and I thought nothing of the sort, either.
I have seen nothing fun in one speck of this entire ordeal and I've said as much on other threads.
What I am is - sick and tired of your demented lies.
My ex-husband played this warped game with me time and again, always telling me what I thought and lying about what I'd said to him - about what he'd said to me. No one will ever succeed in tormenting me that way again.

I really wish that you would be willing to see what you're doing here, but it's obvious that you don't want to look within, Ami... I guess it's too cozy to sit back and consider yourself the poor, innocent victim and blame others for your situation.

I can't stop you from carrying on your charade on this board, but I can certainly speak up boldly when you bring my name into it along with more false accusations and lies.

I am adding this latest post of yours to those which I am reporting to Dr. Grossman as another example of your continued harassment.

Carolyn

[Ami]

IF the Fuzzy Wuzzy (me) thread comes 'back",you WILL see where YOU are having great fun at MY expense---Certain Hope.     Ami

[JanetLG]

Well said, Carolyn - and it's shame that the Fuzzy Wuzzy thread was deleted, as now we can't check for ourselves WHAT was said (or not said), making it easier for this kind of thing to happen. I didn't remember you saying anything of the sort on that thread, either.


Janet

[Dr. Richard Grossman]

Hi everyone,

I'm locking this thread--it has devolved into the same conflict.

Changing:  in the 9 years that the board has been running, I have only known one person who posted.  That person hasn't posted for about a year or two, and when they did, they posted very sporadically.  They were never involved in any conflict on the board.  I hope this helps.

Best,

Richard