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Leah

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Re: Chains
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2008, 09:42:15 AM »
Dear Ami,

I understand, truly, I really do understand.

And I am sincerely glad that you have such a dear friend to help you along your journey.

That makes all the difference.

Every good wish to you along your life journey.

Sorry about repeating bible info as I have read back on the board and you have been given the same info during the Summer 2007 when I was away from the board, so again, sorry, don't want you to feel that I am being a hindrance to you.

As with repeating the 'Renewing of the Mind' also.

Love and "Shalom"

Leah
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Re: Chains
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2008, 09:47:39 AM »
Dear Leah,
  "Repeat" as often as you care to. It is a blessing and a help to me, particularly that you care.    Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Chains
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2008, 09:52:05 AM »
Dear Leah,
  "Repeat" as often as you care to. It is a blessing and a help to me, particularly that you care.    Love    Ami

Dear Ami,

Well, as you do know, truly, I do care, genuinely, as that is my heart.

You see, truly, I was in your shoes once, honestly, I was bound in chains.

Love, Leah
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Re: Chains
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2008, 10:40:07 AM »

Dear Ami

We are not children of the bondwoman but of the free    (Galatians 4:31)

Truly so liberating.

Love, Leah
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Re: Chains
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2008, 03:30:47 PM »
Dear Ami,

I feel anxiety on and off too, and like I mentioned to you once, it flared up very badly for me in my late twenties. Anxiety is multi-faceted for me, but today I was thinking about how it relates to my fears surrounding my mother's `un-stated' expectations of me. The underlying thoughts behind the anxiety I experience  is hard to pin-point. I'm still exploring this, but I think one of them may be along lines of this:

``I am not living up to what my mother expects, so something very bad will happen''' . Its kind of like shame, but its also kind of like a `flight or fight' response to fear of being hurt by her.

As a child, I think this fear was legitimate. But as an adult, the consequences of `displeasing mother' are different. They are still `undesirable'  but its so important to me to face my fears, and not let my actions be ruled by those of her needs which are Narcissistic.

Not usre if tis really realtes to what you're experiencing right now, Ami, but i hope it helps to know you are not alone.

X bella







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Re: Chains
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2008, 04:59:09 PM »
Dear Bella,
  What you said rings very true to me. Thank you.
   I am really hurting ,today. I had accepted having stomach aches, all the time, as normal. Now, I am trying to face the cause ,so I don't have to be plagued by them.
 I think that I got to the root cause. It is shame: fear of ridicule and humiliation.
 The shame is really deep . I feel like I will have to dig it out, the way that I did with facing my M. It took a year and a half of deep digging,as you know, in order to face that my M was an N.
  I guess that emotional healing is a process and occurs slowly, as you can deal with facing the roots.
  Yesterday,I realized a huge piece of the puzzle, thanks to my friend(smarter than "all get out").
   Today,I am hurting ,again.This shame is s/thing that is INSIDE me. I may try to get the outside to be ok, so I don't have to face my internal shame, but it is only a stop-gap measure.
  My buttons are on the inside, so no matter how much I GET  the outside to affirm me, it won't work to heal the shame.
  I saw this ,today. It is a big step .
 Now,I see why addictions don't work. You are trying to treat the inside with the "outside"
  No addiction will work,but the lie of it is that they do work ,temporarily, so you THINK that they really did.
 I guess that I am embarking on a new journey,on the board--the journey to heal shame.
   When I talked to my Aunt,yesterday,I asked her if she liked herself. She said that she was at peace with herself. I wish  I could get there. However, my Aunt never found God the way that I did,so I would not  really change places with her.
 I just want to be at peace,too .           Ami             


No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Chains
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2008, 08:26:40 AM »
 "Slow suicide"in many different ways ,such as addictions, is a way to  try to"kill" shame,I think.We just get in the way--bleh.
  For me, I am seeing my "whole" life as a running away from shame.
 I see that my M could not help heaping shame on me. She had no awareness of it,  so she could mindlessly throw it on me. She convinced me that I was a 'bad" person.  My answer  is ,"If I AM a bad person, what can I do about it now,but accept it."So, I will try to accept all the parts of me and try to ACT right. What else can I do? I can't run away from myself ,anymore.
What does it matter if everyone is "better" than I am.What can I do about it, whether it is true or not?
 I have to stop running.I have to just accept what I am .                  Ami

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Chains
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2008, 08:45:05 AM »
I am seeing that my stomach aches are shame going directly in to my body---in a split second. If I even have a thought that brings up that I could be "ridiculed ", I get a stomach ache. I am trying to trace the thoughts that cause me the problem, so I can  address them.
 I have so many things that I am "shamed" about--most everything--bleh.
 One example is my house. I have a nice house. When my M came to visit  she said,"What will the neighbors think of YOU in this beautiful house  and you don't know HOW to do anything.
 I have so many "shamed " type of comments in my head that I am "filled"  to the brim. I am overloaded .
 Now, I may have s/one visit----YIKES.
 It is bringing up the shame of the house AND of me, personally.
So, I am facing what is inside of me. It is there, anyway, whether or not I hide in a dark room ,like Howard Hughes. The shame IS there and will come out in some form ,if I don't address it.
 So, I am going to try to address it,little by little , as I did when I faced my M.               Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Chains
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2008, 09:54:51 AM »
I was watching Tori Spelling's reality show on U tube. In one segment, she  admitted that she didn't even know which was which---- the washer or dryer?Also, she had no idea how to USE  them.
 I was amazed that she showed no  embarrassment. She just said,"Oh, THAT is the washer?(lol)"
 What would life be like if you could accept your "less than perfect" things so easily?The interviewer was trying to "shame" her by saying,"You don't  know what a washer is?" She said, "No"--very simply.                      Ami

 
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Re: Chains
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2008, 10:40:31 AM »
I was watching Tori Spelling's reality show on U tube. In one segment, she  admitted that she didn't even know which was which---- the washer or dryer?Also, she had no idea how to USE  them.
 I was amazed that she showed no  embarrassment. She just said,"Oh, THAT is the washer?(lol)"
 What would life be like if you could accept your "less than perfect" things so easily?The interviewer was trying to "shame" her by saying,"You don't  know what a washer is?" She said, "No"--very simply.                      Ami
 


Dear Ami,

Did the interviewer ask/give Tori Spelling the opportunity to mention the things that she could do?   The things that she did know?

Bet Tori could have listed many many things that she did know, and many many things that she could do.

We each of us in life, have our very own list ..... headed up with ........


Things That I Do Know           Things That I Would Like to Know                Things That I Can Do               Things That I Would Like to Do   


Interesting thought. 

Bearing in mind, also, that each of us, own, our personal 'Strengths' and 'Weaknesses', that's what makes us, balanced.

Love, Leah
     
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Re: Chains
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 10:00:39 PM »
Hi, Ami,

This is sorta off your topic, but sorta not. Just something I found today and thought it was pretty good - about the battle for the mind (renewal of our thoughts, etc) and seeking God's will. It's a constant struggle, that's for sure... daily, and sometimes moment by moment.
Hope this helps    http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=2888

Love,
Carolyn