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Dance of Anger
« on: April 26, 2008, 10:17:02 AM »
My mom and I play a game.  I really do not want to play the game so I am not going to make a counter move.  I blow up and tell her I am leaving the business-THEN she backs off until I am lulled into a state of equilibriam then when all is well she comes back in and jerks me around.  Plus then I try to find allies and people who will validate me.  She does the same.  She ran to the counselor and he have her a label for me which takes the responsibility off her.  Some of those dances happen here!
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2008, 10:24:28 AM »
Not with me, Kelly

I have only just stood up for myself, and explained what has happened to me, as a person.  Clearly, harassment, and stalking - with gaslighting and projection.  It is now all too obvious and quite clear.

Of which, I do not deserve to be treated in such a way - no one does.

I don't do dances and games.

With regard to my mother and business - I walked away from it - years ago.  Even then, I would not enter into any nonsense with her, in her games.

As I have shared, it was the best thing I ever did. 

I created my very own career and enjoyed it immensely. 

Once again, I highly recommend, as I mentioned last year, that you walk away, even if it means going away empty handed.

Money cannot buy inner peace, health, and well being. 

I know the difference, believe me, I have been there, and walked away from it all.

Love, Leah
« Last Edit: April 26, 2008, 10:27:25 AM by LeahsRainbow »
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2008, 10:42:35 AM »
I agree, Kelly... sometimes a dance and other times a duel!

The thing with NPD is... whenever you try to set a boundary, she'll continually push up against it in small ways... and I think that's because she's just biding her time, waiting for your next blow-up, and hoping that then she can make you out to look like the nutty one.

I feel that if we can just step aside, pulling ourselves out of her whirlwind, it will soon become very obvious to all observers that she's the one dancing - alone - surrounded by her own personal smokescreen of defensiveness and lies.

Doesn't mean we have to be wallflowers... just keep dancing to our own music and let her whirl away, out of sight.

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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2008, 10:51:33 AM »
So true and I hope to be in your shoes VERY soon LEAH.  And Carolyn you get it too.  What I meant by the dance happening here is I have seen some clashes happening over the years and almost always there are some alliance gathering in PM Land.  I also see people snapping at each other and then up pops a thread about projection or envy or whatever the trigger is at that time.  Not just the dynamic that we are seeing on the board right now-two distinct clashes-but it happens quite a bit.
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2008, 11:22:26 AM »
Yes, I get it, Kelly, and I can see that there are some who'll grow through strife (both here on the board and in 3-D life)
and others who will only dig their heels more firmly into their mold of perfection and deny any culpability whatsoever.

Those who are maturing and thereby healing are willing to look inward and see the truth behind the mask. The sort of white-as-snow purity and innocence which is claimed by some does not exist in any mortal human being. Acknowledging that truth is what helps me to overcome my own anger and step forward, because I know beyond any shadow of a doubt that it's only by pride that contention comes.

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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2008, 11:36:31 AM »

YOU will get there Kelly.

Yes, Up popped a thread on Projection Machine and Ambient Abuse - that's what Betelgeuse noticed too.


As for my Envy thread, that was created in November2007 - and is still ongoing, regarding my mother, and my sister. 

But, I keep my writings to myself on a Word.doc on my computer - along with an Excel spreadsheet for timeline.

That's the way I work and process.

As for Gaslighting - that was brought about by TT's gaslighting book thread (Of which, I have purchased Gjazz's recommended book) and as a result, I found yesterday, some superb information on the subject - which I posted - and it has helped enormously, regarding healing of a puzzle regarding my exh and my sister. 

So, as in Romans 8:28 - it is good - and I am delighted with the enlightment, and answer to the puzzle.

Leah x
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2008, 12:36:36 PM »
Have just found and am reading "Trapped in the Mirror". I know it's an old book and I am a little slow getting on to resources like this. But I found a passage which seems to describe exactly what you, Kelly, are going thru with your NM and the business and the dances. The passage was about the N's needing to project onto their children their own negative characteristics b/c it relieves them of the dread that they are not perfect. It also explains my NM's badmouthing me in the community - which someone here explained as the N's "Smear Campaign". (I think it was either Izzy or Iphi.) It sounds like your NM is also trying to smear you, trying to ruin your credibility so that hers stays intact. The N cannot allow the child (even as an adult) to become autonomous and you seem to be "straying" in that direction. It's so hard to sit back and allow the NM to scorch your character, but fighting it only makes you look bad. Sigh.

I have decided I'm not going to my NM's funeral when she dies. I simply would not be able to tolerate all those people who revere her telling me what a wonderful person she was.
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2008, 12:43:11 PM »
Gosh, Kate

Your words have spoken volumes of truth into my heart, regarding my mother.

I read "Trapped in the Mirror" by Golomb, if that is the same one, but, I don't remember one word from it!  It was in the early days of reading, and misty fog prevented input, most often.

I think I ought to read it again.

What you have shared about the funeral has 'bounced' off the screen at me, simply because, I have had thoughts of just that situation, for a while, of  how that would be, on the day.

Love to you,

Leah
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2008, 12:51:58 PM »
Thanks, Leah, for hearing me. The book is the same one - Golomb. I can't believe I never knew about it before. It fascinates me. And triggers me at the same time.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2008, 12:58:09 PM »
Sometimes, Kate

Its almost as though a book is for a certain time, the right timing, as I have had books and had to put them to one side, as I could not read through and connect - or understand.

Then awhile later, picked up that same book, and voila, connection and understanding as I read through, and would find that I could not put the book down!

Love, Leah
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2008, 01:02:19 PM »
I ordered that book and a Wizard of Oz book (I cannot remember the exact title but it was something like Wizard of Oz and other Narcissists....)  I liked that one better than the trapped one because it was harder for me to get through the Golumb one.

Anyway, I try to smear my mom's credibility (although I do not think I try to come up with something to smear her with - I think I speak the TRUTH and maybe a little too loudly!!)  But because over the last six years I have blown up at my mother (yelled, screamed, slammed doors, etc) she has got to figure out a reason for my seemingly sudden loss of control.  The answer is I did lose control - HER control - and every time she tried to trap me again in her web of control and manipulation and I realized it (and probably if I was PMSing) and blew my stack.  Therefore she cannot understand where all this is coming from.

Even though I have endured this prison I am in for 14 years, without it I would still be totally controlled by her.  So in a way this has been a blessing because it has allowed me to break free.  Now I am in the final steps of getting out.  I just now sent off another resume.  I am hoping to hear from the guy I interviewed with on Wednesday although I am a bit nervous now since I have not heard from him and I would think he would have selected his two top candidates by now.  But even if I do not get that job I will keep shooting out resumes until I find something.  Plus my home based business is positioned to explode as the Double Diamond Director is coming on Monday to train my team and tell others about the company and how it is exploding all over the US.....

So anyway.  I refuse to dance anymore.  No more she makes a move, I make a move.  I am going to tell her.  I did not threaten to leave so you would back off.  You should come back and try to run this place because my decision has been made!
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 01:16:13 PM »
Good for you, Kelly. I hope what you want comes through for you.

Yes, Leah, I know what you mean - the right book at the right time.
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2008, 09:20:33 AM »
My dad and I were talking and he told me he told my mom to let me go this time.  I think that is good but I also think my mom is delusional if she really thinks she can do it this time.  She cannot.  She will sell the place before she would let me run it without her and that is precisely the reason I resent her so.  But boy I am realizing that being in your late 40s puts you in a place where you are no longer marketable.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2008, 10:28:59 AM »

  But boy I am realizing that being in your late 40s puts you in a place where you are no longer marketable.

I surely do know what you mean there, Kelly!
In my view, this is a good time to get beyond the old rut of being defined by what I do... because if I took my identity from that, rated my level of success by how much income I could pull in, I'd be down in the dumps for sure!

Love to you,
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Re: Dance of Anger
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2008, 11:04:27 AM »
I have always considered myself really good at what I do.  I spent 10 years in the restaurant business, 3 in sales and 14 in retail and now suddenly they want someone younger and less experienced?  Maybe I just am type cast as one who could not learn the computer or has slowed down (which I have.)  But the computer?  I am great-smart!  But what really hurt is when I went in for the waitress job and I know they laughed at me when I left!  Got to find the perfect job-but WHAT?
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