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Lupita

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Re: GFM
« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2008, 04:16:15 PM »
Hopalong, I recieved the first e mail.

Yes, I have a sliding scale for counseling.  It is from $75 a session to $125 a session, so I would be able to meet with you for $75 a session.  If this is acceptable please call my cell phone or e-mail me.
 
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Can you imagine???????????? 75.00?????????? That is my supermarket for one week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  One month of dance lessons!!!!!!!!

See? even in a sliding scale, it is unaffordable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All that money for 45 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant do it    :(

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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2008, 04:25:39 PM »
You have no idea how I feel thinking that all of you are having bbq in your back yards with friends and I am home alone while my son is entertaining GFM. She goes out with them all over the place. While I am here cooking my self in my own souce. I want to dye. I dont like life, and I do not like society, and I dont like the way we have to live.

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2008, 05:04:46 PM »
KWIM = Know what I mean?



Hops is right... you have to find at least one person or group where you can be accepted as your authentic self.

That you're constantly living in a state of un reality.... pretending and smiling when you want to scream out how unfair things are.....

would drive anyone into an anxiety attack.

You do it all the time and you don't get Sundays off.

There have to be support groups in your area... I'll pm one to you that may lead somewhere.

(((Lupita)))  Biting your tongue around your son and GF and GFM isn't healthy. 

Don't expect that it'll ever feel good, it won't.

He'll be able to listen to you better if you can detach, or appear to detach.

It's amazing the difference in how people view you, if you can manage it.

Lighter

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2008, 05:18:43 PM »
Lupita

I haven't posted here yet, but my feeling is that you love your son so much it is stifling. You must learn to let go, and you can still love him no matter where he lives, whether the North Pole or the Himalayas. He is the son you love. Period!

You don't like his girlfreind, then ignore her and her mother. Why try to be friends with Ns, people you don't like. WE try to have NO CONTACT with Ns.  ....................and no one iis married yet!

Be loving, kind, patient to, and detached from, your son and find a life of your own to fit your ideas of your own personal happiness.

Your son is old enough to make his own choices. One day you will be a grandmother and can love and tend to and help with those little ones. Your son is a grown man now!

I hope you will not take offence at anything I have said. It's just how I see it!

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Re: GFM
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2008, 05:28:09 PM »
I am trying. It is just very hard. Incredibly hard. To let go. See him enmesh with Ns. Two of them. It is killing me. But I am trying Izz, I promise you that I am trying.


 :? :shock: :o

I AM TRYING :o

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« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2008, 05:30:32 PM »
I want to feel good.


                                   I want to detach.

                                                                       God, help me love my self!!!!

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« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2008, 05:34:51 PM »
Thank you for taking the time to wirte me Izz.

Lihter, thank you again. Let us keep working with the puzzle you gave me it is nice. I gave you two if them. How do I find out the others.

Lighter, I know. I need 3D. At least a friend. They do not understand.

At least I am going to have vacation and look for another job.

So, that will help. I will try not to see GF and GFM so frequently. I will try. I am so afraid of them. Sge decided to suck up to the secretary of the church. This woman is sick. I hate her.

She has been catholic of her life since when she wants to help a protestant church!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:


Yes, I need a friend of I am goign to get real sick.

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« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2008, 08:28:18 PM »
OK Juno, I have the beginning of my pray.

Please God:

Help me love my self. Help trust you. Help me trust on my son. That he will make the right choices for him. Help me stay away of his choices and give me the strenght to accept whatever eh chooses to do. Help me control my tongue. Help me to strenght my faith that you are the perect God and know what is better for all of us.

I am stuck there.

Hey Lea, can you jump in here?

What else can I say in my daily prayer?

Anybofy, any ideas?

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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2008, 08:37:34 PM »
A support group with people who've experienced N's and worse.....

will provide people who understand.

No sense even trying to explain all this to people who don't get it.

It's hard to believe, frankly.

I always felt guilty bringing this darkness into the lives of people, who didn't have to live with it otherwise.

They don't want to know.... and who can blame them?

You have your friends here..... until you find 3-D support.

It means so much to find validation and understanding.


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« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2008, 12:18:27 AM »
Lupita,
One reason I keep recommending a women's support or therapy GROUP is that in a group, you pay less.
I saw one of the resources I sent you a link to mentioned sliding scale of $10 and up.

I suggest you reply to every email saying what you honestly can afford. Tell them your income, your insurance situation, and say: "I can pay $8 per session and I need your help. Please help me or refer me to a group that can."

Okay? You have to be determined about this, dear.

You are resourceful and it is worth fighting for, imo.

love to you,
Hops
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« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2008, 12:40:23 AM »
Lupita,

I hope you are sleeping and getting well needed rest. I feel your pain and I am sorry.

You are loved by so many here who really care about you.

You, Lupita are amazing. Just you, with out your son, SG, SGM and so on. You are unique and have many gifts God has given YOU!
You will prevail, Lupita will work through this and come out on top.


Okay? You have to be determined about this, dear.

You are resourceful and it is worth fighting for, imo.

love to you,
Hops



You have your friends here..... until you find 3-D support.

It means so much to find validation and understanding.


Lighter


Ditto Lighter and Hops!                Listening, here, present for you Lupita. Bless You seasons
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Re: GFM
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2008, 04:48:01 AM »
Lupita, that's a wonderful prayer.  Just start with that, perhaps as the days go on it will open you up to more things you can touch on. 

Juno

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Re: GFM
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2008, 08:53:51 AM »
Dear God:

Help me love my self.


 Help me trust you. .Help me to strenght my faith that you are the perect God and know what is better for all of us.

Help me trust on my son. That he will make the right choices for him. Help me stay away of his choices and give me the strenght to accept whatever he chooses to do.


Help me control my tongue.


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Re: GFM
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2008, 09:17:26 AM »
Hops I did not see the 8.00 anywhere. But somebody from the stress program that you sent me contacted me by e mail and gave me his pohone. He did not say any praice, just said call me and will check options. Thanks.

Lighter, I know, it is very difficult to talk with people who did not have an N M because they do not understand, it is not in their capabilities. And they keep asking you, why this and why the other and then youy feel overwhelmed, so overwhelmed, that the pain goes greater, because on top of all you do not feel understood. They do not uderstand the pain you are suffering. It is not in thier minds. And gets worse if they consider you ungrateful, but how can you give oxigen when you are axphixiating? I think they do not rtelize that you have to get better before they can expect anything from a person that is barely existing.

Sunday I was almost about to dye. I thought that my life had no purpose. I thought I wanted to get a cancer. I feel better today.
But Sunday and Monday I was not able to help other to walk because I had a broken leg. I thought I was losing my son to an N family. Something I have fought so hard and sacrificed so much to stay away. And my son who knows wthat is it, who is not ignoprant of it is falling in the trap.

That is what is killing me.

But feel much better today. Not energetic but not sad, just flat.

When I saw that GFM was sucking up to the secretary of my church I thought I was going to die. She is stilling my son, and now she is invading the world that I have created with so much effort. Because for me it is an effort to reach out and make friends. It is a huge effort. Remember that I was told all my life that I should not like other people except my mother. Now, it is an effort a huge effort to reach out.

And if on top of it this monster comes to invade the small world I have contructed with so much effort. U want to dye.
The secretary is going to fall in love wiht her. In the blik of an eye she will be controlling my church and I will be forced to leave the same way I left my home, I left my husband, I left several jobs and I have been leaving everywhere. I wanted to stay this time and deal with the problems.

God will help me.

Seasons, thank you fro your encouragement.



I barely got up today and came to work. I think I am depressed.

But less desperate.

Need to detach from my son, I need to. I need to detach, I need to detach. God will help me.

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Re: GFM
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2008, 10:40:54 AM »
Lupita, I am so glad you got that response from the stress group. Please, call the leader.
Strangely enough, I've heard of people bartering for counseling...sometimes they say Yes!
Maybe you could ask him to have one initial session with you, and when you're there, tell him you can offer piano lessons or salsa dance lessons, if he will counsel you or accept you into the group.
I know several people who have made arrangements like that when they needed counseling and support but had no insurance and no money to spare.
You have to be determined about this, dear, because you are worth it.
If one doesn't work out, another will.
So this is your homework and I know you can do it!

Oddly, I found some comfort in this:
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I thought I was losing my son to an N family. Something I have fought so hard and sacrificed so much to stay away. And my son who knows wthat is it, who is not ignoprant of it is falling in the trap.

It occurs to me that almost everyone here, is here because they had a relationship with an N. I can think of no case where someone avoided a relationship with an N simply because someone else told them what Ns were. So maybe this relationship is your son's effort to find out for himself what an N is. Maybe he actually has to do this for himself, Lupita, in order to make the big mistake we all had to make, in order to set different boundaries for ourselves.

Of course you would like to spare him the pain and sacrifice. But maybe you can't. Think ahead to when your son is a wise, talented, bruised-by-life but soulful, kind, WISE man of 40 or 50. Perhaps he'll be in a happy second marriage. Perhaps he'll be bringing your adorable grandchild by for a visit. Perhaps then, one day, he'll say, Mom, I now know that you were right, she wasn't the right person for me. But I had to make my own mistakes, and it's okay, Mom. That's the way life works.

love,
Hops
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