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I Am Sorry
« on: May 20, 2008, 11:55:40 AM »
Lately, and no doubt because I am nearing the move and life changes again, I am feeling very repentent once again for how I acted as a child/teen/young adult. I am so embarrassed and so ashamed of how thoughtless and even cruel I was. I behaved exactly like my parents at that time and felt I was so much better than everyone else. I know that we all have shameful moments from school, but sometimes I just get so upset. I so wish I could have a real childhood and be a kind person and be what I am now to others. I could have been nice!! I could have been a friend to someone who needed it. I could have been helpful to teachers. But I was a bitch. I was nasty and I was selfish.
In AA, there is a step when we tell everyone all of our sins and ask God to take them and all the rest we do not remember. But I just can't shake these.
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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 12:01:21 PM »
I admire your guts for publicly issuing that apology.  so important for our healing to own our part.  I've been thinking about doing this but haven't mustered the courage.  Way to go.

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 12:10:48 PM »
Lately, and no doubt because I am nearing the move and life changes again, I am feeling very repentent once again for how I acted as a child/teen/young adult. I am so embarrassed and so ashamed of how thoughtless and even cruel I was. I behaved exactly like my parents at that time and felt I was so much better than everyone else. I know that we all have shameful moments from school, but sometimes I just get so upset. I so wish I could have a real childhood and be a kind person and be what I am now to others. I could have been nice!! I could have been a friend to someone who needed it. I could have been helpful to teachers. But I was a bitch. I was nasty and I was selfish.
In AA, there is a step when we tell everyone all of our sins and ask God to take them and all the rest we do not remember. But I just can't shake these.


I spent a lot of my teenage years doing bad things and acting out!  Don't be too hard on yourself!  We're all good people and its okay to mistakes.  I think there's a lot I did that I haven't faced so I admire you for doing so.  Perhaps I'll do the same.

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2008, 12:50:08 PM »
(((((((((Beth))))))))))))))))
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 01:51:09 PM »
If you have any memories of bullying, perhaps, or times when you were a taunter, etc., imagine how you'd blow away your target if you could track down one or any, and write a simple, dignified note, just telling them this is something that preys on your mind and you'd like to apologize.

Once in an elevator I stood next to a woman who'd been my chief tormentor in elementary school. I don't know what she thought I thought, and a cat got my tongue. But I realized I felt no anger or hostility toward her. Just a sense of wonder at how time had changed us both.

I think your concern about it shows how very far from your childhood persona you have grown, Beth. And in most cases, I always figure that childhood bullies are in a lot of pain themselves.

You're certainly no bully now, but a supportive and sensitive person with a kind heart and caring ear.

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 02:03:34 PM »
I was so much like that.  I was so afraid of being laughed at, put down, ridiculed, that I unconsciously took action to make sure it wouldn't happen outside my family--exaggerated my grades, lied about how perfect my family way, always tried to make myself feel better than everyone around me.  And I'd put people down, too--before they could get to me.  I'm sure it must have baffled people, how I could be so two-faced and cruel.  But there are people who take on their N parent's patterns for life--remember you haven't done that.  I think it's one of the toughest things imaginable to break some of those dynamics, because after all, those who develop them in N households do so for self-preservation, and that's the strongest impulse (esp. in childhood) that exists.  Congratulate yourself for having the strength to overcome.

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 02:36:40 PM »
hi Beth
I just posted a  reminiscing thing..
...but wanted to remark on your post about actions as a child/teen/young adult.

I hear you but mainly I was introverted and didn't muddy the waters. That in itself was bad for me, then strangely, on occasion I did a rebellious thing at school and feared for my life that my parents would find out, and I'd be beaten,

I was sent out out of the room about 6 times in 5 years. I jumped out the window once to get away from the teacher and ran to the school bus and hid under the seat.  I peeked over the bottom of the window when school soon let out and he was at the door watching every kid, and on Monday said nothing.

I am sorry that I was not a good friend to my girlfriends and I was not willing to share about me. Dad had said that what happened within the family stayed there., so what topics besides boys?  I look back at classmates and think that they could have been much more in my life than I had, but I was afraid.

That just left me alone with my siblings.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 04:25:34 PM »

((((((((( Beth )))))))))

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 05:09:35 PM »
((((((((Beth))))))))

I'm not sure what would help you feel better.  Or if that is the goal here.  My thoughts are a little bit different.

There's two things that come to mind.  One is that:  Everyone has something in common on something like this.  Everyone probably looks to the past and wishes they had been a different person, a better person, the best self they could have been.  I know I wish this very much so, especially in regard to the kind of mother I should have been.  I was going to say could have been, but that is really not true.  I had no tools.  I was so very ignorant and un-capable back then.  That is something that can be improved upon, but not something that can be fixed.  For me, even the idea that I improved and continue to improve, isn't enough.  Forgiveness helps but can't be required, you know?  Well, you get the idea.

Carolyn helped me before with her ideas on being re-born and how we can become new again.  I came up with a way that it was do-able for me.  Perhaps she will chime in here with what she means by becoming new again.  It helped me a lot and continues to help me when I have these really yucky feelings.

Secondly, the part about being mean to others.  I have meanness in me just like everyone else.  But I spent much time as a child and teen being a victim.  I have had times when I "met up" with the people who hurt me.  I would say the one thing I truly don't want is some kind of apology from them.  What I have wanted is truth.  A conversation perhaps.  I think that those relationships are broken.  And I'm not in any kind of place yet, and may never be, where I am interested in re-connecting with them.  But to see the growth or imagine the growth, that is a good thing.  To see that someone has softened and has become a better version of themselves is a real gift in my opinion.

I am different and I imagine they are too.  Or I hope so.  How different is a matter of chance or whatever.

I would say I am a big fan of pay it forward.

It is important that you see all the changes that are happening right now are leaving you open to this old pain.

Let's see.  At my twenty year class reunion I saw a "tormentor".  Her co-tormentor, the one I have always thought of as the ring leader, was deceased at that point in time.  She looked at me very coldly and I thought, does she hold ME responsible for what happened?  My life and my self were destroyed by them for awhile.  What could she be thinking to look at me so coldly like that?  Well, I shall never know.

At my twenty five year class reunion the topic of me fighting with boys in grade school came up.  I used to kick the boys.  I always thought I did that because they picked on me.  Now I kind of think the two things kind of evolved at the same time.  I think I was mean to the boys and kicked them because it felt powerful.  And I was most powerless as a little girl, especially at home.  When the one classmate brought it up to me, I said, cut me some slack, that was a rough neighborhood I grew up in.  Meaning the one we both grew up in.  And then he said, you're right and I apologize for any role I played in the way you were treated back then.  I was blown away.  Someone else acknowledged that I was indeed treated badly then.  I hadn't imagined it.  Funny enough, though, I never thought of him as a bully or ring leader.  He just seemed like an equal to me.  I have a mixture of memories where he did mean things or nice things and I did mean things and ran away a lot.

Then there was the time last year when I waited on a customer who I came to believe was the main ring leader in some of the worst taunting I received because he enlisted even kids I didn't know who didn't live in my neighborhood to taunt me in public.  And he clearly remembered none of it.  That was shocking to me.

I ran into him again a few weeks ago and he was as polite and friendly as could be.  By then I had incorporated my feelings about that encounter from last year and I was able to be a "grown up" about it.  So, I guess I am healing.

The point here with all this babbling--everyone has something like this.  Both sides.  People have been mean to me.  I have been mean to others.  We all operate from our current place in this journey.  Growth and forgiveness are both desirable but not always possible.  Yet life goes on.  Do what you can for your own healing.  That will make a difference as you go forward into the future.

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2008, 06:35:27 PM »
Juno,
You are right about so much of tis, and I was thinking along the same lines as you with a lot of it. I remember somethings that others don't. They remember a lot I don't. Mostly, I have not seen these people for twenty years. And my college friends... that was all weird too. But I know it is what you say - that we all had issues to some extent. I know I am different, so I assume others (for the most part) are also very different. I know of a few people who despise me and do not wish to see any growth or change in me (a former teacher is one). I cannot change that. I actually ran into her in Moscow - just walking along the street and she looked at me with such deep hatred... She was with another teacher who was more accepting, and whom I adored. But she could not bear to be near me. So I know she had her own issues.

You know, Izzy, your post reminded me about being in third grade and one day I went into the bathroom and wrote, in marker, every bad word I could think of on the bathroom wall. I didn't get caught. But tell me, what well-adjusted 8-year-old does something like that????????
Izzy, I too was afraid. I just plain didn't know how to fit in, and didn't even know how to act so that I was like others. And my parents couldn't give a fig about fashion or what kids were into... so that sure didn't help.

Leah, thank you.

Hops, I wish I could say sorry. I would. But I don't really know who they were - I have just vague memories for the most part. I haven't been where I lived for a long time, and welived other places before that. I never really bullied. I was just so superior acting. And sometimes I said I hated people, but I was never upfront with anyone. I think the teacher I talked about must have heard me say I hated her (I can't remember saying it, but it was common in my vocab at the time) and that is why she despises me.

Thanks for the input. It is helping some. I feel that I am starting to unravel something here.

Love, Beth
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 07:36:30 PM »
It is a strange thing to know that someone out there despises you/me.  The very thing I feared all my life--people hating me.  And yet we just have to accept some of these things.  Don't have to like it, just accept it.  And there are people I despise!!  And they just have to accept it.  Must be fair about these things-- :roll:

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 09:00:58 PM »
Sweet (((((((((Beth)))))))))))),

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one day I went into the bathroom and wrote, in marker, every bad word I could think of on the bathroom wall. I didn't get caught. But tell me, what well-adjusted 8-year-old does something like that????????

Well, I happen to think that was the action of a VERY well-adjusting 8 year-old, because you were expressing your anger with the tools you had. It looks antisocial, and in fact it was, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a sane and balancing response to the emotional imbalances you were subjected to.

Know what I mean? Children have a passionate logic to their behavior, to their acting out. They are denied adult language and tools to deal with the justifiable hurt and rage they feel (especially with an Nparent). So you very sensibly made use of the handiest words in the English language to express how you felt!

It's the surface-crazy, but down-deep-sane behavior of an angry child who needed to be heard.

While everybody was getting the vapors over it, no doubt, your truth was written on the wall.

Kudos to angry hurt young you, who had a VOICE and used it!

love to you,
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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 09:20:47 PM »
Hi again Beth

and thank you Hops!


Beth, did you remember that I scribbled over all the walls of the girl's 'cloakroom'. I used coloured chalk and I have just one piece of the memory left of doing it.

But I do remember that the teacher, Mrs. Kneeshaw, called all the girls together and in a semicircle. I stood with my hands behind my back since they were chalk-covered. She asked who did the scribbling and no one admitted to it. Shirley looked guilty!! So she had to wash down the walls, but I was 'chosen' to help her! I think the teacher knew, but I would be about 5- 6.

When I think of Shirley, her reaction is such that, full of guilt she would have that look, innocent or not----makes me think about seeing a police cruiser and automatically slowing down , even not being over the limit!

When I was about 47, I lived on the same floor as Mrs. Kneeshaw and would stop in to see her now and again. As we talked one day, I mentioned the above episode and , bright as she still was, she did not remember it at all!

We just laughed...............

I just love this

"It's the surface-crazy, but down-deep-sane behavior of an angry child who needed to be heard.".

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Re: I Am Sorry
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 11:27:39 PM »


(((sweet Beth)))

I am so grateful we have you.

Your post just shows how deep and thoughtful your heart truly is.

Oh and your adult teacher is a jerk!!!   IMO!


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