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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2004, 12:05:09 PM »
rosencrantz,

Heyyyy, nice to hear from you.   :lol:

You've made incredible progress, my goodness! Unbelievable. I'm so happy that you've got a good therapist and your son feels safe with you and can express his tender feelings. That's awesome.

You said something that really caught my attention: Melanie Klein. I can't tell if that's the name of your therapist (unlikely) or if you are referring to THE Melanie Klein. I assume the latter. Right now I'm reading a book called "Projective Identification: The Kleinian Interpretation."

Thanks for the update and best wishes to you.

bunny

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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2004, 08:25:13 PM »
Hi R!

You sound great! :D It was such a nice surprise to read your post. :D

I'm so happy for you that you've found a therapist you can trust after all you've been through.  And I'm thrilled to hear that your relationship with your son has gotten so much better.  Wonderful! :D

Big hug ((((R))))

WF
If you want to sing out, sing out
And if you want to be free, be free
'Cause there's a million ways to be, you know that there are
-- Cat Stevens, from the movie Harold and Maude

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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2004, 04:21:21 PM »
Hi, rosencrantz--

Thanks for your kind words.  I'm so glad you're doing well!

Best wishes,

Richard

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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2004, 07:03:17 PM »
Thanks to each of you for such very warm replies.

I have on occasion popped by to see how folk are doing but my identity as Rosencrantz had become a burden and I had no desire to come back as R - she was too healthy!  She took the burden of rationality and sanity for the whole forum when deep down she did not have the emotional and mental capacity/strength to handle it.  Not that I realised that's what I was doing at the time, nor was it my intention.

But once that thought (unbidden) entered my head, I realised how obviously it was really a description of my childhood.  How could I (then, as a child) have had the emotional and mental capacity/strength  to handle the lack of rationality around me - and no wonder my parents fell apart when I left home.  There was no-one to take my place and stand strong and calm and sane any more.  And they punished me for moving on, becoming independent, thinking for myself.

It's a pattern I've been repeating all my life.  Willingly sinking under huge burdens I have neither knowledge nor capacity to handle - but somehow finding knowledge and capacity from somewhere.  Produced out of nowhere, like a rabbit from a hat.  Standing strong in order to take the punishment being handed out - the sarcasm, the spitefulness, the rage - when, underneath, all I really felt was fear, anguish, inadequacy and dread.  

Well, I realise I no longer have to grapple with such burdens - the responsibility is not mine.  So here I am, sitting calmly on the sidelines.  Waving and sending warm thoughts in return for yours.   8)  Hope that's cool with you.   :)

R/S

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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2004, 07:27:00 PM »
R/S

Thanks for sharing how you really felt. I'm sorry you had that heavy burden put on you by your parents. I feel for all the parentified children (now adults) who had to precociously take care of their parents, and, later, everyone else. Fortunately you've retired from that impossible job.

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2004, 11:18:46 PM »
Just read something here that hit a nerve.."Experienced my father"..uh oh..Thank you rosencrantz...gotta go, the bookstore closes in an hour.