Copying and Pasting Articles for Member Consumption

[teartracks]

Hi,

I've been thinking...

There's nothing wrong with copying and pasting or providing links for member consumption.  I do it, so you ain't heard me complain, OK?  Trying to resay what is contained in a good article seems like a useless exercise kind of like trying to reinvent the wheel.   Not a good use of time.   However, I'm beginning to examine why   more often than not I choose to copy and paste articles written by 'experts' on the web, rather than freely throw out my own thoughts on a subject.  Here are some things that went through my head as to why I copy and paste rather than publish what I think.   1)  Nobody really cares what I think.  2)  Time consuming to write all that stuff down.    3) Intellectual laziness.  4)  I'm not a good enough writer.  5)  Sitting in front of the computer for that long gives me a fierce backache.   Want to add your own?

tt





 

[Certain Hope]

ooo... tt, I have done alot of that... and I've considered the reasoning behind it, too!

I've shared the articles and tidbits which have made the most impact on me - like the Kathy Krajco stuff - for the simple reason that I've never really had anyone with whom to share those things which impact me.

Of all of the things I've missed the most, it was someone whose eyes would light up in recognition when I'd point at something and say - isn't that cool?! Wow!

Here at this board, I have found  that.

There are other reasons, too, but that is the primary one... and right now I must clean up the mess I made in the kitchen... lol.

Love,
Carolyn

[Izzy_*now*]

hi tt

1.) We care what you think
2.) Copy and Paste the link and it's done.
3.) Anyone interested can click the link to read the original
4.) If there is something that really rings your bell , copy that paragraph and then provide the link, just give your thought on that part.
5.) I prefer people's own experiences, on their own words. Not all these writers know everything.
6.) Izzy's feelings on the matter.

Izzy

[Izzy_*now*]

Hey again tt,

I've been thinking on this and why articles bug me, and it is that not all articles fit everyone with our array of problems. This gives me a feeling of rubber-stamping all people with a certain author's theory.

In sharing of ourselves, we can open up other doors, as there can never be one scientific theory of what feelings are, because we can never know what anything feels like to another person.

I also suggest, from what I have seen here,  there are diifferent views even of 'voicelessness' and that is this Forum

The forum is not about traits of Narcissists or Psychopaths, and how they are to blame for everything.  It is about us, the members, and what we are doing to 'fix ouselves'.

Then to talk about our baby steps and sucesses.

[Hopalong]

Just my own eccentric take on it, jives with parts of others':

I feel exhausted when I see page after page after page of some other author's writing pasted in. It's nothing against the poster...but I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate it! (Put childishly, forgive that, I do know it doesn't harm me one bit and I can skip.) But I think it bugs me because I would like to get to know the poster, but I give up even opening most of those tomey posts since I know there's such a very slim chance I'll be learning anything about the poster.

I do like it a lot when people share links to good stuff, or brief extracts. It's great to know that our hive-mind of great google searches can find such illuminating and helpful gems to share with each other.

I ain't against research I'm just pro dialogue. It's so beautiful when that really is happening here...

love to all, librarians included,

Hops OOO! Just had a small lightbulb! My Nmother was a professional librarian and the woman BATTERED me with impersonal information and articles to read until I thought I'd scream. Aha! That's it! Duh.

[Certain Hope]

Hi Carolyn,

You and others have generated some brisk and helpful discussions on the board.  There are some really good  discussions in progress as we speak.   Very helpful and pleasant.

I thought of another reason why it may be a good thing that I predominately copy and paste.  Maybe I just don't have anything worth saying.  Maybe I should be happy being a good copy and paster! 

tt

tt,

Thanks.

To me, you have plenty that's worth saying... and if you choose to share entire articles or snippets or links or however it seems best to you, I will read with interest.

Can't please all of the people all of the time, right?
Might as well please yourself and those around you who are interested in you... and, consequently, interested in the articles which interest you!
That's how I look at it.

Life is too short to be so dang picky-oonie.

Love,
Carolyn

[gratitude28]

tt,
One thing I really like about cutting and pasting from another's work is it shows you really are listening and you can expound on what they wrote. I have always appreciated it when people have quoted what I said and then added their take on my words. It is a very caring way to reiterate a post and respond to the poster, I think. I am not sure why you say you prefer to do this. It seems to me that you also do your own thoughtful ruminating that helps others here.
If I quote someone, usually the words are particularly meaningful to me. Or, as I said earlier, they are words I think are important for the author to really ponder.
This is a good subject.
Love, Beth

[Hopalong]

Life is too short to be so dang picky-oonie.

You're so right about that, Carolyn.

For what it's worth, I know it's a petty irritation on my part. I got all huffed up about it at one point and was trying to control that on the board. Silly and useless.

I totally agree with you that people should be free to post what they want.

It was a great insight for me just now about my mother's use of articles and info. Glad this thread happened.

One thing (can't help myself) -- I would think that maybe sometimes the really long long long ongoing article extracts could more appropriately (in the sense of the Dewey Decimal System  ) be posted under What Helps?. Then in posts here on the main board, the writer could explain there's a long article over there about ___.

But what the hey, the world ain't my library.

love to you,
Hops

[teartracks]

Hi Beth,

It's true that acknowledging what other bring to the board is a good thing.  Like Carolyn says, having someone see truth in something you've unearthed and share a Wow moment...well, there's nothing quite like it for voiceless ones.

tt
 

[teartracks]

Hi Hops,

Hops OOO! Just had a small lightbulb! My Nmother was a professional librarian and the woman BATTERED me with impersonal information and articles to read until I thought I'd scream. Aha! That's it! Duh.

It was a great insight for me just now about my mother's use of articles and info. Glad this thread happened.


I knew I'd influence your life sooner or later!   

tt

[teartracks]

Hi Iz,

Then to talk about our baby steps and sucesses.

Yes!

Me thinks  the board is stuck with the N word and the P word.   

tt

[CB123]

6) It's not safe to post one's own thoughts on the board, so posting an article is an effort of dogged determination to continue to participate.

Just a guess.

CB

[sKePTiKal]

I think you're on to something Carolyn, with #6.

I have appreciated greatly the links and even some copied articles that are relevant to what I'm currently working with, on myself. Remember your attachment thread? Those articles hit at just the right time for me to work through that whole set of feelings, ideas and issues.

On the other hand, once I open a topic and see that something's been copied or linked to that's not of great interest (well - it might be - but time is short, right?) I tend to skip over it.

I guess it all depends on what the intention is, behind sharing something. What is the poster really wanting/needing?

6) It's not safe to post one's own thoughts on the board, so posting an article is an effort of dogged determination to continue to participate.

If #6 is really the case, I guess we can all examine our why's... and either continue to hide behind this kind of "sharing"... or resolve to try to change this habit - if it really is just a habit - and see that (as my taichi teacher says) "nothing bad will happen".

Myself, I don't feel that it's unsafe to post my own thoughts or feelings here, now - but I do understand that feeling well - because I was once there, myself. Live & let live... you know?

[teartracks]

Hi CB,

6) It's not safe to post one's own thoughts on the board, so posting an article is an effort of dogged determination to continue to participate.Yes.  I think that having the veil of someone else's words that approximate our own between us and the board does serve to protect us from off topic attacks on some threads.  I also think that many of us have been conditioned to think that someone on the Internet who has the gall to publish themselves  is an expert allowing us to confidently adopt their 'expertise'  and turn them into  our surrogate mouthpieces.   Doesn't that diminish the potential of the board? 

tt

[Izzy_*now*]

TT

surrogate mouthpieces.   Doesn't that diminish the potential of the board? 

Very well said!
I've been talking about this for months, but I expect I didn't say it well enough, that I would prefer the poster's personal thoughts/experiences rather than some long involved article.

Thanks
Izzy