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Meh

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The Guy
« Reply #540 on: September 19, 2009, 11:52:35 AM »
The goal: Guy muscles around me.

Is this ok as a goal? I guess I can write about this now since there was that whole sexual repression thread started. Really in the past I never would have allowed myself to have this as a goal, and the only goal, society tells me that it's not good enough. Guys get to have it as their goal, but no women should have other goals.

Should I? Who says I can't have muscles as my goal. Is it shallow?

I'm not sure. I never allowed myself really to just be attracted to men, I always had to have some complicated ideas between me and them but what if I just want the muscles and what if I tell them I just want the muscles.

Hey you, bring your muscles here.

If I was a man, I would totally want to put my arms around me and smell my hair. Maybe. I don't know.
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« Reply #541 on: September 19, 2009, 12:08:52 PM »
I have a thought for you while you knit. I got several e books on male/female relationships. Let's face it, I have been in a hole for decades so need some remediation. Is it anything to be ashamed of  :shock:?

Ami, What e books are these? Have you read them already?

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Re: The guy
« Reply #542 on: September 19, 2009, 12:14:56 PM »
I have a thought for you while you knit. I got several e books on male/female relationships. Let's face it, I have been in a hole for decades so need some remediation. Is it anything to be ashamed of  :shock:?

Ami, What e books are these? Have you read them already?

I LOVE my e books ,Helen.  I will PM you the names cuz they are too embarrassing to write on the Board :?             
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: The guy
« Reply #543 on: September 19, 2009, 12:18:08 PM »
I LOVE my e books ,Helen.  I will PM you the names cuz they are too embarrassing to write on the Board :?             

OK Ami, PM.

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Re: My Truth
« Reply #544 on: September 19, 2009, 12:35:09 PM »
Whitie has become very popular at the drinking group and the e books helped .
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 12:38:04 PM by Ami »
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: My Truth
« Reply #545 on: September 19, 2009, 12:46:33 PM »
I don't want to be popular. I want picnics.

I want something that is way beyond popular. I don't care about popular, popular is for teenagers.

OK, I will try reading anything at least once.


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Re: My Truth
« Reply #546 on: September 19, 2009, 01:01:35 PM »
It is really about just being comfortable with yourself  Most of the e books even have money back guarantees, too.    




PS I think it is really healthy that you want to have a relationship and are willing to push yourself outside your comfort zone. I think you are taking the first steps to your goal.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 01:14:58 PM by Ami »
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #547 on: September 20, 2009, 03:00:42 PM »
I can't get him to "open up" and tell me more about himself.

Impermeable, impervious?

I know guys are often like this but are all guys like this? Is it normal? Is it me?

He keeps contacting me, but I don't know how to interpret...

Should I try to get him to open up or just give up. I'm trying! I even tried talking about FOOTBALL!

HELP
« Last Edit: September 20, 2009, 03:12:57 PM by Helen »

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Re: My Truth
« Reply #548 on: September 20, 2009, 08:54:46 PM »
Mother Ami is here. It takes time for a guy to open up--a lot of time. Men trust more slowly than woman. The e books tell you this. Get the e book ASAP  :shock:.                     xxxxxxooooooo     Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: My Truth
« Reply #549 on: September 21, 2009, 07:33:18 AM »
Helen... breathe! It's OK... there don't have to be rules about what you want... or how the guy is...
LOL! Really... It's OK. Guys will tend to show you who they are, instead of talking about themselves. At least, at first.

It's sort of a dance... like playing Pirate Princess... it's supposed to be FUN and it doesn't have to be anything other than that, because you still "get to decide"... you're still the Cap'n... and you don't have to - won't - trade your whole "crew" and ship just to dance. That doesn't have to be part of the deal... you know?

One of the things I've struggled with is some unwritten/unspoken "expectation" or rule, that I have to sacrifice everything - including "me" (my whole self) - for the sake of a relationship, safety, "muscles". I guess that's because that's what my mom required of me, you know? It's actually kinda exhilarating to try NOT doing this, in a relationship... first, nothing "bad" happens... and second, it really lowers the level of angst & anxiety... and helps me understand that I AM safe within my own boundaries... and it helps me feel more confident about crossing out of my "pirate ship" into someone elses' world... and then, letting them into mine.

That sounds a lot easier and simpler than it is in reality. Maybe push hands is a better way of illustrating what I'm talking about. In reality, practicing this "boundary" dance... things happen quickly, subtly, sometimes there are no "clues" as to what is happening or about to happen... but if your stance is correct, your "root" firmly planted, and your awareness calm & centered... you can engage ("dance") and still deflect the unexpected "attack" - i.e., defend your "space"... and remain engaged in the dance... and it doesn't become life/death - good/bad - it just stays fun.

Unlike the solo form, where there are thousands of minute corrections and a "standard" for each posture... push hands is fluid, dynamic, spontanteous, energy-based. And the only rule that's important to remember in push-hands, is to help "take care of" your opponent... to not deliberately try to hurt them.

I had one partner - very much a beginner - who didn't seem to understand that rule and he had a height advantage on me. Each encounter, the force he exerted on me increased beyond my "natural" tendency to defend... and I would simply step aside and let his own "force" carry him on past me until he finally caught on, that there needed to be an equilibrium or balance between us... to really start to see the point of the practice. The point was not for one person to win or defeat the other. Push hands isn't a "contest" or "battle"... and it's superb for learning to "see" things about boundaries. Knowing when to step aside is just as important as building the seige walls and defending them...
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« Reply #550 on: September 21, 2009, 03:53:57 PM »
Eh, Well F the guys anyways I'm going back to Tai Chi class this winter.
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« Reply #551 on: September 21, 2009, 03:58:37 PM »
Well the guy, didn't show up last night when he was suppose to. HE was the one that asked me out to lunch, HE was the one who suggested we get together. HE was the one that did not show up. AND now I AM kicking his ass to the curb.

I tore through my closet since I haven't been on a date for a long time and looked for something to wear, found it. I'm really glad I didn't idiotically go get my nails done or something like that.

He had an excuse that sounded like a reasonable one actually but I have too much self respect to meet him at this point and I've lost all enthusiasm for it. I figure the guy is either a jerk or clueless about dating.

Oh well, Old maid city here I come.

I'm looking out the window at the black pavement in the sunshine and I'm imagining that my eyes could beam so much pissy into the pavement that it blows apart.

I'm actually ok with it, I'm old enough that I know not to have huge expectations from people I barely know.

I'm fine. Sort of disappointed but fine. Where's my bottle of antidepressants?

My aloneness is reliable, my ability to nestle into my own state of autonomy and even enjoy it a lot is something I can depend on.

Guys are funny, this one guy I dated showed up in a formal suit for a date, he was from Texas, I was totally shocked. Then there are guys that don't even show up at all.

There are these moments when guys look at my body and my face and I can see the gears going around in their heads, I know that their brain is recalling every hustler, playboy model photo they have ever seen and when I get their final evaluation of me I am not any of those and so I'm not very valuable to them. They are holding out for something better.

I don't even want to be a part of this anymore because I have my own versions of better and those versions don't include men.

Men are maybe like walnuts in chocolate chip cookies, maybe can be good but are totally unnecessary.

I'm just staring blankly out the window at the sunshine. I'm thinking of how I could be in the country side in a field or in another country all together.

« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 04:22:34 PM by Helen »

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Re: My Truth
« Reply #552 on: September 21, 2009, 04:21:31 PM »
Well... this might be totally random, off the wall, maybe even unwelcome...

but here goes anyway....

maybe "wellness" can be defined by how well we weather life's disappointments... you know, does it send one into a tailspin; a hellbound downward spiral? Or can we just swallow hard... tell ourselves "THAT was unpleasant" and move on? I mean, do we need a pill for everything untoward that happens to us??

I'm only asking 'coz I might need an authoritative answer. Asking my self the same kinds o' questions these days.
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« Reply #553 on: September 21, 2009, 04:27:26 PM »
Well... this might be totally random, off the wall, maybe even unwelcome...but here goes anyway....

maybe "wellness" can be defined by how well we weather life's disappointments... you know, does it send one into a tailspin; a hellbound downward spiral? Or can we just swallow hard... tell ourselves "THAT was unpleasant" and move on? I mean, do we need a pill for everything untoward that happens to us??
I'm only asking 'coz I might need an authoritative answer. Asking my self the same kinds o' questions these days.

It's OK, a welcome question.

I know what you are saying, I'm just being sarcastically dramatic to myself, I try to take anti depressants every morning and I didn't grab one this morning before I left the house.

But yes I often wonder about the antidepressant use. The PILLS don't make me SMILE. The pills give me some "get up and go" power.

For me the antidepressants don't actually make me happy or elevate my mood, they make be feel less sluggishly lethargic. I feel like I have enough energy to go grocery shopping or to dump my garbage or to take a shower etc.

Yeah, I think it is a very positive sign when a person can say "THAT was unpleasant and then just move on".
« Last Edit: September 21, 2009, 04:57:24 PM by Helen »

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Re: My Truth
« Reply #554 on: September 21, 2009, 04:32:32 PM »
Thanks! That's actually a relief to know I can say something like that, and it's OK.

I've had a rough few days lately, myself.
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