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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2009, 12:00:39 PM »

Thoughts? Comments? Experiences?



There's a book you can order on Doc G's link......

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP by Brad Warner, aurthor of HARDCORE ZEN.

It touches on our emotions and not grabbing on to them, but allowing them to pass by.

We have habitual thoughts and habitual ways of responding to them..... which isn't really us, at all.

They're only illusions (we've been nurturing for years.)

Your thread reminded me specifically of this book, Amber.

You might find it an interesting read.

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2009, 06:50:11 PM »
Along those zen, mindful meditation lines:  Thoughts, emotions & body sensations are all connected & intertwined.  We have a thought, which ofteen causes us to feel an emotion & we also feel that emotion somewhere in our body.

Amber, when you talked about not being sure you felt anxiety, maybe your body was just registering your emotional feeling of excitement, but it wasn't anxiety.

"but "colored" it negatively, by calling it anxeity... apprehension... and how that's led down an old, boring path of cyclic emotions... tension, irritation, resentment... etc."

Maybe you called the physical feeling of excitement "anxiety" because of negative conditioning?

I read a psych book & the author said, kinda facetiously, 'there is no mind, there is only body'.  We experience our emotions in both our mind & body.
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2009, 11:00:28 AM »
Hi Ann! Yes, one of things I've noticed is that the visceral "feeling" I have - stripped of a negative definition - is just excitement... and yes, I've been "programmed" to think of it as anxiety instead. It probably has something to do with not being allowed to just be a kid who's running around, can't sit still - or shut up - who's so EXCITED... oh, and I guess that includes being HAPPY about whatever is causing the excitement...

... when that is squashed flat, disallowed, taken away... repeatedly... or you are ridiculed and put-down for it... repeatedly... you learn to think it's "bad"... that it's a bad feeling... and so it needs a bad-feeling name.
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2009, 04:54:10 PM »
Hey Amber,

"It probably has something to do with not being allowed to just be a kid who's running around, can't sit still - or shut up - who's so EXCITED... oh, and I guess that includes being HAPPY about whatever is causing the excitement..."

Yes, our natural energies & emotions were quashed when we were kids & our N parents labeled our emotions negatively.  So, maybe we have trouble identifying which emotions we feel in our bodies & so many emotions & body sensations are negatively labeled.  ie:  Mistaking joyous excitement as anxiety (negative label).

I have done some work identifying my emotions & how each emotion feels in my body & where in my body I feel it.  Often, N parents discouraged ACONS from feeling emotion & so we don't know what we feel or if we feel at all.

Solution (?):  re-program our brain, id our emotions, id the body sensation of that partic emotion ie: do I feel the emotion in my chest? stomach? head? etc. 

As usual, recovery is alotta work, but worth it.  Like now, I know that if I get a headache or feel exhausted after being with a partic person, I need to limit/eliminate contact with them or if I can't limit/eliminate contact, then I must mentally protect myself.

fun, fun,fun!!!!!!

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 08:43:19 AM »
Actually, I am finding this fun!

I guess some people do this earlier in recovery; or maybe I learned how some years ago in therapy and it's just taken me this long to get "done" with all the negative feelings that I'd been too scared to admit to - much less feel. So "now"... I'm finally comfortable with enlarging the emotional repertoire... and finding that there's not a single-note melody nearly as much as a symphonic score to "feelings"....

yes, this could be.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2009, 07:03:43 PM »
Awesome thread PR.  I love your last post CB.  Money is my biggest issue but I agree with you that it is really not the money at all.  And PR, I attach to the words you used about it going so deep.  I do know that I will get through.  I also understand why it is so difficult.  I continue to connect my wretched feelings with those early childhood experiences of being harshly criticized.  All of that goes to the deepest issues of deserving for me.  Never gets old - the process of considering and rethinking and refeeling these issues.  Never gets old - working my way of this pain and disfunction.  Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2009, 09:26:47 AM »
HIIIIIII GS!

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